night games thread

Submitted by UM Fan from Sydney on September 28th, 2019 at 7:59 PM

Well, OSU is going to win by 40+. That team is just unfairly good. Thankfully there are other games to watch. 

 

Catchafire

September 28th, 2019 at 9:09 PM ^

Do you honestly think another coach would do any better? This game is part coaching part recruiting... OSU has guys waiting in the wings who are 4/5 stars to plug right I. When they leave...

When our root guys leave, i.e. Rashan, Winovich, Higdon... there is a drop off.

DoubleB

September 28th, 2019 at 9:16 PM ^

Do better as the head coach AT Nebraska? Or do better against Ohio State?

Frost was much more of a shot in the dark than was ever mentioned. Everyone thought it was slam dunk hire. Everyone forgot there isn't a time machine to the 1990s. Frost might work out, but one great season at UCF--not a tough place to win 11+ games a year--wasn't the reason to pull the trigger on the guy.

I don't know what NU's game plan was but they look damn soft on defense and Adrian Martinez looks awful in every way. So yes I think there are plenty of coaches who can do better against this Ohio State team with NU's talent.

SouthOfHeaven

September 28th, 2019 at 9:06 PM ^

Hornibrook is having a decent game thus far for FSU.

Why isn't FSU vs. NC St. the premier game for tonight? Watching two garbage teams duke it out is more enjoyable than watching one garbage team get shoved into a meat grinder.

Nebraska has already been paved, and OSU is salting them for winter time.

TheConservativ…

September 28th, 2019 at 9:06 PM ^

Why in the world have people been hyping up Nebraska lately? Who really thought they had a chance in this game!?

Also, Ohio State is really fucking good...

TheTeam16

September 28th, 2019 at 9:18 PM ^

More bag money excuses...if it’s not that then it’s the refs, or Delaney, or the weather, or the planets weren’t aligned properly or some other stupid ass shit.

 

Michigan isn’t on the same level as Ohio state in any facet. There is nothing to blame that on but Michigan. Stop acting like osu plays by some different set of rules. They are just better because the care about winning more than Michigan does.

Michrider41

September 28th, 2019 at 9:33 PM ^

That is such a bullshit argument.  OSU is better because they care more about winning than the other team.  You think the other team doesn’t want to win?  They have better players, just like Bama, Georgia and Clemson do.  How do the majority of the better players end up at these schools?  Let’s take a look back in time to when Miami and USC got the majority of the better players.  They were cheating and got caught.  They have both  struggled since.  Their is too much money in CFB to stop it now.  It has been rampant for years. 

TheTeam16

September 28th, 2019 at 9:39 PM ^

If we wanted to win as much as osu we wouldn’t have the academic standard for football players that we have...so yes, osu cares more about winning because they take kids that wouldn’t have a shot in hell to get into UM. Thanks for playing. 

LightYagemi

September 28th, 2019 at 10:44 PM ^

Stop with the bs. Ohio recruits the same players as us. Our players are not Rhodes Scholars either, if you recall Harbaugh's comments when he was coach at Stanford. Ohio, like Alabama, is just a superior program in all aspects compared to us. It's up to our $9 mill a year coach (earning 2x Ryan Day) to make us elite, but so far he has fallen short.

TylerRice0515

September 29th, 2019 at 9:44 AM ^

Dudes on this site love pretending Michigan wasn’t on the adidas report and osu was. Oh wait Michigan was on the adidas report and osu was not. I’ve only heard of Michigan paying guys, we heard of osu guys getting free tats and selling their own shit. That’s about it. 

uofmchris1

September 28th, 2019 at 9:09 PM ^

It's not even that OSU is LIGHT YEARS ahead of us in every single facet of the game of football... 

It's the fact that if Michigan walked into Nebraska for a prime time ABC game, Nebraska more than likely would look like a powerhouse against us.

Ugh.

 

UM Fan from Sydney

September 28th, 2019 at 9:36 PM ^

That didn't work out the last two times their great coaches left. When Tressel was fired, we thought "finally this asshole is gone and we can regain control." Then they had Luke as the interim coach for one year. Hurray! We can beat him! We barely beat that team. Then of COURSE the second best coach in football just so happens to be available and of COURSE he becomes OSU's head coach. Of course. Then he gets fired seven years later. Now we're thinking the same thing. "Finally that asshole is gone and we can attempt (again) to regain control." But of COURSE the Buckeyes get handed a top-five QB and Ryan Day seems to be a great coach. I don't see Day leaving. He was handed an elite dynasty. Why leave that? OSU is the Alabama of the north without the same amount of national titles, but they can certainly get to that level. It's just disgusting.

MonkeyMan

September 28th, 2019 at 9:11 PM ^

big difference between Fields and Patterson- Fields usually releases within 3 seconds of the snap, Patterson puts too much on the o-line by all that delaying

DoubleB

September 28th, 2019 at 9:21 PM ^

This isn't a body bag game against Grand Valley State! Nebraska should be rewarded for their shitty, unprepared soft defense because it's all about O with Scott Frost? Hell no. 

It's the responsibility of the team getting torched to wave the white flag. When Nebraska puts in their subs and/or starts running the ball every down is when Ohio State should do the same. Not a second sooner.

buddha

September 28th, 2019 at 10:23 PM ^

Why? To me, a mercy rule doesn’t even kick in until the second half. OSU has one thing that UM has lost in the last 20 years: a killer instinct. It’d be great if we were ever in the position to even debate this topic again if UM happened to be in the same situation...a night game...nationally televised...at a team who is being billed as “on the rise”...sadly, we usually lose these types of games

McFate

October 1st, 2019 at 11:34 AM ^

The NCAA record comeback is about 35 points.  

If the opponent is from the Sun Belt cellar, you can show mercy early because they are not a threat to score a bunch even on the backups.

If the opponent is a big-boy team with a credible offense, you don't slow down in the first half until you are well beyond that margin, say, up 50 points or so.

M-B Devil Dog

September 29th, 2019 at 10:15 AM ^

are you serious? if you think Fields has played "ok" then what the fuck has Pattersons play been? jr high level? at best?  yeah that escape from two defenders then rolling right and while rolling throws across his body off platform to a tight end about 25 yards down field but yes he has been "ok"

ThatFatMan42

September 28th, 2019 at 9:13 PM ^

OSU just looks unstoppable.  Almost everything they do works and works well.  They have an answer for everything you try to do.  They adjust on the fly very well.  The coaching ability is evident, the talent is evident.  They're getting good players too.

Meanwhile Michigan looks pretty much the opposite against any team with a pulse.  And I don't mean this as an insult to our players, but seems like the coaches are spending too much time trying to polish turds into diamonds instead of recruiting better players and developing them. 

ThatFatMan42

September 28th, 2019 at 9:32 PM ^

I'm sure the pressure is immense, as it probably should be.  But all the pressure in the world isn't going to change the fact that it's going to take time to change the direction of the program.

Gattis may well work out, but there is no reason we should have to be turning to a first time play caller on offense.  There is no reason we keep recruiting all these 3* kids that ending up being the weak links on the team.  All the bagmen in the world aren't going to develop those players when they get here.  Wisconsin last week showed us that talent alone isn't going to make us win games.  Until we address some of these underlying issues nothing will change and we'll continue to be dominated by OSU.

UM Fan from Sydney

September 28th, 2019 at 9:44 PM ^

I agree that recruiting is the problem. That said, it has to be immensely difficult to convince these high 4-star and 5-star players to come to Michigan to play when OSU is the top dog of the conference. It's hard to convince those kids to come play for Michigan after seeing OSU completely own UM since 2001. Most of those kids don't want to go through that. They know they will win right away if they go to OSU.

TimBia313

September 30th, 2019 at 2:07 PM ^

First, establish new core Culture. Not built on 100 years etc. or gimmicks - OSU would never see a Revenge Tour as a motivational core of its teams' season. They expect to be in the Playoffs (Every Year) - full stop.

Second, stop recruiting beast like DPJ, Hill and doing nothing with them (which recruits see more than anything). Frost immediately put in plays for Robinson, Braun didn't wait to showcase Moore. Day has already burned the redshrts of Wilson, Chambers. Recruits see this. The Bag doesn't matter as much as being Showcased. Have to start showing these guys that coming to UM means "Being Seen" and playing for a Natty.

TylerRice0515

September 29th, 2019 at 10:03 AM ^

I think I need to make a post on this. Michigan has bag men. They got caught paying guys. Osu didn’t. The ignorance and pure stupidity by some hurts my head when you just chalk it up to “oh they pay guys” turns out only Michigan has been involved with paying guys that we know about. Not osu. 

MonkeyMan

September 28th, 2019 at 9:13 PM ^

Nebraska does not have a great defense put the fundamentals by OSU players are incredibly sound and that would be hard to beat by anybody- you can see the quality

TheTeam16

September 28th, 2019 at 9:14 PM ^

I have three seats for the Osu game this year, and seeing what they are doing to Nebraska...my football soul just can’t watch what they are gonna do to Michigan in our house and 50k osu fans for the 10th time in a row. 
 

Competition breeds excellence in football. Osu has studs backing up starters at every position, they know if they fuck up...boom there is someone there to take their place. Michigan has walk ons and converted full backs on their first and second strings. This is the difference in these to programs bar none.
 

It is so depressing to even think about. We are light years behind them. Really not a rivalry anymore sadly.