New NCAA CFB rules
Until I see Saban get a penalty, I think it should say "More emphasis on taunting, uniform violations and SOME coaches who leave the sideline."
Roll Tide!!!
Unless there is data showing more injuries have happened in extended OT, I can only assume the continued efforts to reduce OT sessions is a TV driven thing...which, like everything else driven by TV, sucks for the game.
TV loves OT. It’s one short drive followed by a bunch of commercials. Rinse and repeat.
My guess is that this is virtue signaling by the NCAA. The organization gets so much bad publicity, here is an instance where they can say, “see, we really do care about the student athlete,” regardless of the actual injury risks involved in playing 4 or 5 overtimes.
The faking injuries crap is well overdue. Hate watching a football game turn into a fu'tbol game in 4th quarters.
I guess if they want to say a guy who goes down with injury has to come off the filed for 2 plays before returning. Not in favor of a yardage penalty
April 23rd, 2021 at 12:38 AM ^
I agree in principle. Seems too subjective. One can have a cramp and legitimately need to be helped off the field and also be ready to play again relatively quickly
I don't like faking injuries, but then, I also feel like the rules currently favor offenses too much and make it difficult for defenses to substitute, so I don't know.
That's exactly what some of these new high tempo offenses are seeking to take advantage of.
I hate the fake injuries because they are sometimes so blatant (dude runs to the huddle fine, looks to sideline, then suddenly collapses) and then they go to commercial for 90 seconds and it just kills all momentum from a viewer standpoint.
The rules definitely incentivize playing tempo. But I'm personally getting tired of 52-45 games where the defenses are basically nonexistent.
Defenses are faking injuries because that's pretty much their only chance to substitute. Somehow the rules should be tweaked to give them more of a (legal) chance to do this.
To me the answer is simple: change the RPO five yard downfield rule, and the game shifts back in favor of defenses (and is easier to officiate).
The RPO just makes it almost impossible for defenses. It would be great if they would get rid of this.
I don't see the asterisk on the taunting bullet point that is supposed to read "only applies to those wearing a maize-and-blue winged helmet"
April 23rd, 2021 at 12:43 AM ^
I will never forgive Tarik Black for the shame he brought upon the university by...
/checks notes
flexing at no one in particular after a big play?
Seriously, Vert literally gave up a possible pick six so he could let MSU know about it (which was awesome) but a guy can't get excited after a nice catch? This is an emotional game. Guys are talking shit at each other all the time. If it looks like it's going to get out of hand, sure, rein the guys in but the bias should be towards no calls.
Jesus, let the kids play and have fun.
Finally addressing that uniform-violation issue plaguing college football. I can't think of any other more pressing issues we need to address in the sport. No doubt all will be right in the world when flags are thrown because players' socks don't match.
Need to get Frank Costanza officiating games.
Taunting rule will hopefully stop the corners all across the country who lack the self awareness to realize they were beat by 5 yards, but the QB missed the WR, and still celebrate as if they made some great play on the ball.
have always hated when our guys do that
April 23rd, 2021 at 12:46 AM ^
The Cissoko Rule?
I don't believe he ever made a "great play on a ball"....so no.
Another day with more proof that the NCAA is out of touch
More emphasis on taunting? Ugh...
not sure how you tell if a guy is faking an injury
guys get blown up for 1 play all the time and then shake it off.
I like the 2nd OT rule, why wait to OT 3?
is uniform violations a big thing to be spending time on?
on the coaches as long as they enforce on everyone I guess I am OK with it but hell that has been part of the game since it started.
* For the injury-faking thing, I think what coaches wanted was a mechanism to be able to complain to the league office and get disciplinary action in case of an egregious faked injury. The problem is that a ref during a game won't call a player on the spot for faking an injury, because how do you know, so there is no disincentive for faking without the possibility of future disciplinary action.
* For the uniform violations issue, I think the issue is that the rule was enforced haphazardly. Big Ten refs enforced the NCAA rules requiring all shirts to be level with or below the waist and tucked in if long enough, and SEC refs seemed unaware of those rules. I think coaches just wanted a, um, uniform enforcement of the rule. They didn't change the rules, they just said they wanted the rules enforced that are already in place.
not sure how you tell if a guy is faking an injury
Sometimes you just know...
Just because you can't see the sniper doesn't mean he's not there.
The idea o forfeiting the game would seem to be a deterrent for that.
Any word on banning punting?
Or you know................McDonalds bags?
Uniform violations, the scourge of humanity!
NCAA is a joke.Different rules for different schools
Agree with going for 2 in the second OT, but why a "2-point shootout" after that?
You're not going to have too many games go to a third overtime, but if it happens, I don't see why the OT format needs to change further.
Agreed, what's next, If basketball games are tied at the end of 2OT they are decided by.. a free throw shooting contest? Or a quick game of Knockout?
Knockout. Now that is a fun game. I would support that
Seriously. Bring back ties even. I'd rather have a more NFL overtime. Deciding games on basically a 2-point shootout is dumb. Needs to be done in soccer and hockey sometimes because goals just aren't scored that often. You could play forever in soccer, especially without additional subs.
What about rule for bad officials and replay officials who can’t get targeting right
Or spot the ball correctly, or slap OSU players ass, or not call PI when the OSU DB tackles our WR
April 23rd, 2021 at 12:07 AM ^
The B1G would be down to 2 head linesmen and a back judge.
I don't mind taunting. It seems like a fine part of the game as long as it isn't after a dude got injured. If you roast someone, I don't mind a little chat. I like that the NFL went back to allowing dances a few years back. It's occasionally nice to see football players have fun playing football.
I assume players "chat" with either all the time. But I like taunting rules. With emotions high after a big play, the obvious response to a taunt is to respond, either by yelling back or by getting physical. Punishing the player who responds to taunting the way a normal human being would, but not punishing the player that is doing the provoking, has always seemed really unfair to me. (Or, alternatively, forcing the player being taunted to accept it without responding, which seems equally unfair).
Besides, I know I'm in the minority here, but while we all buy in to the way sports supposedly teach kids about teamwork, hard work, commitment, etc. etc., can we not also teach them a bit about sportsmanship? You want to celebrate a great play, do it. You want to make fun of someone else for failing? Nah. I see no benefit from encouraging kids to be dicks.
As I remember it, Bo always taught players who made a great play to turn *back* to the team to celebrate with them, not turn to the fans (or the opposing players).
Yeah yeah, I'm old, I know. :-)
Don't like the 2-point shootout at all. Feels very gimmicky
It also arguably increases the chances of more and more overtimes - there's a 50% chance both teams "roll the same number" in any given overtime. Although it will reduce the overall number of plays.
The faking injuries angle is going to go like the flopping calls in basketball in that they'll be wildly subjective and rarely enforced beyond occasional performative instances.
How, in the world, would you even identify a “fake injury”? That’s a totally subjective thing and IMO is impossible to even determine, nevertheless penalize.
I see that we still have not addressed:
- having the center vomit on the ball to establish possession / dominance
- Penalties for being unable to cope with crossing routes ("The Don Brown Rule")
- Destruction of foodstuffs during bowl victory celebrations as in last season's Famous Idaho Potato Bowl.
You know, important stuff.
Taunting should be allowed. And uniform violations is a joke.
It’s going to be really hard to police faking an injury. Seems like a very subjective penalty. Maybe force any player who is injured to sit out more than one play. Sit out the rest of the drive.
Pretty sure everyone has gotten a muscle cramp before. There is absolutely zero chance of proving if someone was faking a cramp. The damn things go away as fast as they show up. I'm sure someone out there can manage not to fall to the ground. Unfortunately, I am not one of those people.
So is a low flex taunting now?
As with everything, it's a balancing act. You hate the faking and want to discourage it but you don't want such serious possible repercussions that people trying to avoid a possible call by trying to get off the field aggravate the injury.
This would have been a problem with the 2015-16 version of Harbaugh. But now he seem un excited, unesthusiastic and docile along the sidelines.
Faking injuries should be an automatic ejection, with a 20 yard penalty. I have an NFL game, New England vs Indianapolis in mind, where Peyton Manning was moving the ball in a last minute drive, and New England out of time outs. And suddenly a New England player (I'll leave him unnamed) grabbed his leg. Funny thing is, the same player helped make a tackle near the end zone a play later to end the game.
In this new rule there will be a review available after the game is over. It will not affect game play.
The panel also approved the framework of a plan first proposed by the Football Rules Committee regarding players faking injuries. Schools and conferences may now request a postgame video review from the NCAA secretary-rules editor and/or national coordinator of officials if it believes players faked injuries. The practice has become more common in recent years to slow down the pace of up-tempo offenses.