NCAA Issues Baylor’s Briles Era Finding
August 11th, 2021 at 2:50 PM ^
Not enough. Probably never will be.
August 11th, 2021 at 2:58 PM ^
That $5k fine really hits them were it hurts and thankfully that assistant director of football operations has a show clause... wait what?
August 11th, 2021 at 4:36 PM ^
Quite the punitive damage
August 11th, 2021 at 6:43 PM ^
Such a rush to justice too (fired in 2016)...
August 11th, 2021 at 3:01 PM ^
Why do I let myself get fooled every time punishments are issued? I always expect a fair punishment and it never happens. With the exception of the show cause and the vacated wins, this isn't that different from the Michigan punishment for extra practice. Why bother to pretend if you are going to ignore the seriousness of the situation?
August 11th, 2021 at 3:08 PM ^
30 Official Visits vacated, and 3 weeks of unofficials vacated. So I assume they will have a lot of unofficial visits after those 3 weeks?
August 11th, 2021 at 3:19 PM ^
How many official visits do teams get? This says they’re reduced to 30 visits.
August 11th, 2021 at 3:47 PM ^
The last I saw it was just under 60.
August 11th, 2021 at 6:59 PM ^
Good catch, my bad! What a joke
August 11th, 2021 at 3:09 PM ^
So you can cover up rape and other such sexual intimidations as an institution, and only get a $5000 fine. Oh, can't forget that the "former assistant director of football operations" gets a 5-year show cause, which will be expired soon.
The NCAA continues to show the world its contempt for students.
August 11th, 2021 at 5:29 PM ^
Maryland and DJ Durkin say “hold my beer”.
August 11th, 2021 at 3:17 PM ^
Nice summary.
August 11th, 2021 at 5:00 PM ^
Soo...What happens if a school says, "no"? Can the NCAA really keep a team out of a bowl game or the CFP or is it up to the bowl committees to not invite them?
August 11th, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
Ask UNC.
August 11th, 2021 at 3:17 PM ^
Wow a slap on the wrist. Quelle suprise.
August 11th, 2021 at 3:21 PM ^
What is the point of a $5000 fine? Have they forgotten to account for inflation since 1927 or do they really think that’s going to be a deterrent?
Fines should be some percentage of the revenues brought in by that program during the time.
August 11th, 2021 at 3:33 PM ^
Unbelievable. I picture an old NCAA guy with his pinky near his mouth saying, "Five THOUSAND dollars," while everyone else in the room giggles. Money is the only thing that can hurt these schools, so make it hurt.
August 11th, 2021 at 3:35 PM ^
Yikes! How much will Michigan be fined if it's a percentage of revenue during time of employing a scumbag coach and (in UM's case) doctor?
August 11th, 2021 at 3:22 PM ^
Briles must be related to the Sacklers.
August 11th, 2021 at 3:28 PM ^
Every time the NCAA takes 5 years to give someone a little slap on the wrist, it only encourages the LSU's of the world to keep doing what they're doing
August 11th, 2021 at 3:41 PM ^
The NCAA is the drunken security guard sleeping it off in his chair while the place is looted.
August 11th, 2021 at 3:41 PM ^
Why is that huge $5000 fine listed second? That's really going to hurt.
Must be the NCAA equivalent of Dr. Evil's 1 Million Dollars.
August 11th, 2021 at 3:45 PM ^
The only thing the NCAA has ever had the authority to police is whether a student-athlete improperly received a free dinner. Now that that's not a concern, makes you wonder why the NCAA still exists at all.
August 11th, 2021 at 3:51 PM ^
The NCAA has no real interest ---- either now or in the future --- in punishing schools for things that go beyond their explicit guidelines and regulations (key word there being "explicit.").
Now, we all know why that is. This is basically 9 years (and a few days) in the making.
The NCAA's core competency is to organize and run the 100+ (considering the multiple divisions) National Championship events and tournaments. I believe that should remain their primary purview, with punishment administered to schools limited to strict player-eligibility related issues.
I do think the conferences should be able to administer punishment for moral issues, if they want. But not the NCAA. Conferences are ultimately closer to the situation. If the Big XII wants to punish Baylor for various moral issues, that is perfectly fine with me.
August 11th, 2021 at 4:34 PM ^
“Morals issues”? Last I looked, sexual assault is a crime. And covering up that crime is another crime.
August 11th, 2021 at 5:05 PM ^
Come on now, you know what I meant.
That slight bit of pedantic-ness aside, my larger point remains: the NCAA will likely never again issue penalties based on events that are moral/criminal issues outside of its explicit rules.
August 11th, 2021 at 5:37 PM ^
Part of running a championship should be ensuring there is a fair playing field to compete for those championships. If it is purely up to the schools and conferences to self regulate then that system doesn’t work. The SEC will decide mass steroid use is acceptable while other conferences will not. Not a fair playing field to compete.
August 11th, 2021 at 6:01 PM ^
You are not wrong, that's a valid concern.
If there was a competitor to the NCAA (the NAIA exists but it doesn't really fill the role of a competitor, although the NAIA was also several years ahead of the NCAA on NIL issues), many of those concerns would/could be addressed.
It's simply a matter of whether there is the willpower and numbers among certain schools (say, starting with the B1G and Pac-12), to create that competitor.
August 11th, 2021 at 10:51 PM ^
It’s about the schools being willing to give up power. How the NCAA was formed left it with no real power. They write the rules and develop penalties, but the schools are required to self report and manage the implementation of said penalties. The NCAA is responsible for investigating but has no ability to force schools to hand over any documentation or even submit to interviews. How dumb is that?
It’s because the school Presidents never really wanted to give up their power and be beholden to an outside organization. It’s been a farce from the beginning.
If this is ever to truly be fixed, it requires a complete overhaul and flip flopping the order of things. The school presidents, athletic department leadership, and student athletes should get equal say in setting the agenda. The NCAA should have the power to implement and police the agenda with real consequences for breaking the trust of competing on a level playing field.
August 11th, 2021 at 3:52 PM ^
A $5000 fine. Think about that. For an entire fucking college. You, as an individual with probably a fraction of a fraction of Baylor’s cash can get a $5k fine for DUI in some states. They don’t care and we won’t make them care is the bottom line.
August 11th, 2021 at 4:16 PM ^
I'm guessing it cost more than $5,000 for the NCAA to write the press release.
August 11th, 2021 at 3:54 PM ^
This was well over five years ago. How many folks work at the NCAA? I'm thinking maybe 5-10 when you consider the cleaning people.
August 11th, 2021 at 4:04 PM ^
So this is going to show other programs its okay to sweep shit like this under the rug.
What an absolute load of horseshit. Makes my blood absolutely boil
August 11th, 2021 at 4:17 PM ^
I feel like Michigan had about the same level of punishment for Stretch-Gate.
August 11th, 2021 at 4:30 PM ^
A $5000 fine? WTF?!
August 11th, 2021 at 4:31 PM ^
Art Briles was the keynote speaker at the 2016 "The Greatest Coaching Clinic Of All-Time" in Crisler Arena. One of the most boring presentations ever. He had a powerpoint presentation with all his coaching stops and his winning records that went on for 30 minutes with nary a sentence on how to coach. Obviously Coach Harbaugh thought he was the bees knees.
August 11th, 2021 at 4:53 PM ^
This is a plea for mercy. The NCAA is begging to be put down. It is a truly broken organization that has made itself entirely irrelevant beyond its ability to make a (relatively speaking) small number of institutions a shit load of money... oh wait, I see. That's the only thing that matters. Never mind then. Keep limping along Zombie. Nothing to see here.
August 11th, 2021 at 4:58 PM ^
Good thing Baylor's name wasn't Grambling.
August 11th, 2021 at 5:02 PM ^
No further evidence needed that the NCAA has virtually no power anymore. Get used to it.
August 11th, 2021 at 6:26 PM ^
Nothing to see here…
August 11th, 2021 at 7:19 PM ^
Can you imagine the penalties if they had stretched too long?
August 11th, 2021 at 7:35 PM ^
And the NCAA proves once again they are a complete joke.
August 11th, 2021 at 9:55 PM ^
Reduced to a parking ticket? It’s past sad.
August 11th, 2021 at 10:49 PM ^
What the fuck is a $5,000 fine? I don't even know what the point of that is.
August 11th, 2021 at 11:26 PM ^
Oh man it would be awesome if Baylor refused to pay just to highlight that the NCAA is wearing invisible clothes
August 12th, 2021 at 1:40 AM ^
What a fucking joke. While I'm not sure if the death penalty should be used, what they did was far worse than anything SMU did*. Although it wasn't all that long ago that a Baylor coach tried to cover up the fact that one of his players murdered another and then tried to victim blame so I guess maybe the NCAA figures this is a step in the right direction, conduct wise.
As far as I can tell, the NCAA could still be useful for two things, enforcing academic standards and student conduct. The UNC sham classes and Baylor sexual assault cases show that they have no interest in doing either of these
*besides #CJK5H #allegedly
August 12th, 2021 at 4:25 AM ^
Another slap on the wrist..No wonder people CHEAT theres no real consequences
August 12th, 2021 at 9:10 AM ^
That NCAA, they sure work fast.