NBA Combine Report: Our Guys Shoot Well
Didn't see an NBA Combine report from yesterday, but all our guys shot well in the drills. You'll find all the stats HERE.
In the scrimmages, for some reason, Poole decided not to play, and some reports said that's hurting his stock. Iggy and Charles each played in two scrimmages, and here's their stat lines:
MATTHEWS
Game 1
3-8 FG, 1-3 3PT, 7 pts, 5 reb
Game 2
2-5 FG, 0-2 3PT, 4 pts, 6 reb
IGGY
Game 1
3-9 FG, 1-3 3PT, 7 pts, 9 reb
Game 2
5-9 FG, 0-2 3PT, 11 pts, 4 reb
I read somewhere that Jordan Poole finished #1 in some shooting drill, too.
Yeah they do a spot up shooting drill, kinda like the 3 pt contest, but then he chose not to scrimmage. I hate to think, that in the future when people mention his name, it will be followed by, whatever happened to him?
JP will not have more than 4 years of NBA experience
Yes, I agree, hopefully, that doesn,t, happen,to him,,,,,,,,,
Iggy might low key be the one
Honestly I still just feel sick to my stomach thinking about the team. Congrats to them but man I'm bumming hard still
Pooles stock should drop if he skipped the scrimmages. For his whining that he wasnt being used in the Beilein offense, this was his chance to show what he could do in a different system.
No it won't.
It's one game. It's not gonna show anything.
It'll show he suffered from a sudden bout of Higdon-itis.
Sometimes if guys don’t scrimmage it’s because a team gave them a promise that they were going to draft them, and the team doesn’t want them to risk injury in a scrimmage.
Bingo. Poole maybe going a lot higher than most around here were thinking.
Being the 60th pick would put him higher than I’d expect
Bingo. JP has no value to the nba now or anywhere in the near future. Maybe ever.
i wish him very well, but poole will not be drafted and i would not be surprised if he's not even invited to an NBA camp.
You may be right, but I've not seen him on any mock drafts in the first round, meaning he very well may be relying on a second-round selection and that feels a bit dubious.
That said, I don't think scrimmages mean all that much. If you're drafting Poole, you're hoping that he can turn into a consistent shooter from outside and improve enough defensively to see the court 10-12 minutes a game and not cost you a lead. He's got that potential, but he's not close to that yet.
There's no possible way he's going first round. I buy that someone will take a flier on him in the second round, though.
I'm bullish on his talent. I think someone takes a chance with him. And if he figures out how to focus and do what his coach wants, he could definitely stick in the NBA.
I doubt that Poole is skipping scrimmage based on 2nd round pick promise. If there's a promise, it's at 1st round, not 2nd round. Teams never promise a prospect that they'll take them at 2nd round.
At this time of the year, a bunch of Michigan fans were shitting on DJ Wilson for declaring early and they said he will get undrafted or don't get drafted at 1st round when in fact he got drafted at 17th overall pick. Mock draft didn't have DJ Wilson at 1st round but those are just mock drafts, not NBA teams draft.
People questioned Wilson going in the lottery, but a number of mock drafts had him in the first round.
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2017/5/16/15646832/nba-mock-draft-2017-markelle-fultz-boston-celtics-lonzo-ball-los-angeles-lakers
https://www.nbadraft.net/2017mock_draft
He definitely helped his stock at the combine, but a very tall, very athletic kid with legit 3 point range and good defensive chops is way more appealing to the NBA than an inconsistent shooter with limited defensive upside.
I want Poole to succeed, but people are also seemingly ignoring a lot of evidence that he's going to have an uphill climb to make it in the NBA.
DJ was smart to go. I know someone close to him. He has 4 teams tell him he would go in the 1st round if he fell to them. Poole not so much. I fear he will not be drafted at all and if he is it’s going to be late 2nd at best.
And sometimes guys don’t scrimmage because they are afraid what it will show.
Bingo.
That only applies to guys who are going to be drafted high. Not guys like Poole who have nothing to lose.
I believe this to be false. There isn’t a guy at the combine that doesn’t think he’s the man. They aren’t thinking, “man, I better not scrimmage because then everyone will see how terrible I am.”
Guys ranked as low as him need as much attention and scrimmaging as possible. He is not going in the 1st round, and if he is living off of a second round promise, that's just plan stupid.
It's Basketball.
Looking through the drills, Poole can shoot pretty well.
But we knew that. When he took good shots he shot well. When he took shots from Krazy Jim's Blimpy Burger and bizarre fadeaways he shot poorly.
Iggy's showing was decent, too.
And, dude, I didn't know Jordan Bone was going to win all of the drills.
BpONE’D?
I wish Poole nothing but the best and hope he kills it in the League, but his shot selection...needs some work..he just needs to channel some Glen Rice squared up jumpers.
Makes me want to grab a quick burger and get yelled at for not knowing my order right away
Poole is not a good shooter. No matter how you spin it
Yes he is. No argument even exists. Kid was forced to take some shitty shots this year and people like think he was just a poor decision maker but can't realize how bogged down the offense could get and forced a guy like Poole to jack up some not-so-great looks.
Good looks, the kid is probably a ~40% 3pt shooter.
He is a great shooter. Excellent shooter. And I agree that he would be a 40%+ shooter with improved looks.
But he wasn't forced into so many bad looks, he brought most of that upon himself. Most of his bad jacks occured with 10+ seconds on the shot clock. Iggy played in the same offense, carried more of the usage burden, and managed to make better shot selection decisions.
Poole was both an excellent shooter and a sometimes iffy decision maker.
It's s good thing then that he's going to the NBA, where defenses are porous and give shooters great looks all day.
Except for 7 minute stretches in crucial BIG and tournament games.
Poole to the Cavs
This would be amazing
JB with the trolliest of trolls
Beilein drafts Iggy round 1, Poole round 2, resigns, comes back to U of M and recruits players on his ability to literally draft them himself?
The Cavs don't have a 2nd round selection ;o) We'll have to wait for karma to fullfill its destiny.
I hope not. For Beileins sake.
I mean, these aren't terrible numbers but they certainly aren't great. I wouldn't say "our guys shoot well". They were 2-10 from 3.
Also, Poole taking more career step back threes. I can see him vanishing for 2-3 years and then emerging as some random bench microwave.
you obviously didn't review the iggy and poole numbers in the link
You obviously don’t understand that game numbers are much better representative samples than drill numbers. Any decent shooter should expect to be 75-85% shooting in drills. It’s that simple. It’s shootaround and drills
Can't remember who it was, but some talking head/writer said he thought Matthew's looked like the best guard/wing defender there over the course of the scrimmages.
I don’t know much about the NBA, but it really is a super star dominated league more so than other sports. I think a lot of people forget that while the best teams have 1 or 2 big stars, there are other guys who contribute to each team. I don’t think any of the three will be big stars, but I do think that they could each carve out their own role. I would not be surprised if Matthews has the longest career of the 3 of them.
That isn’t shooting well. At least not in scrimmages. It’s not a shock. None of these guys are pure or even above average shooters in game situations. Stop spreading false hype. Please.
Delete this bad post now.
Rumor that Poole got baby lotion in his eyes. That's why he didn't participate in the games.