MSU Title IX investigation concludes with no announcement. UPDATE: Policy Violation being reported
Seems like they're trying to put it off as long as possible so that people forget about it and then magically they're back on the team in August.
Yep, they suspended three players and a coach just for kicks. That douchebag joke of a prosecutor needs to be investigated. The Grant Perry case should have been plead down and done. What he alledgedly did is a joke compared to what vance, corley and king alledgedly did and oh ya coverup coach. I am reasonbly sure the stories are true, but am confused that the skank even brought charges against Robertson. I am sure the girl in this case isnt going to forget about it any time soon. Everyone said it would be whitewashed and they were right on the money. Even msu thought there would be charges or they would have never suspended the coach. Can't remember the prosecutors name but hopefully somebody on here can bring her name to light because she and all of the ingham county prosecutors office are foul.
"We have thoroughly investigated ourselves and found absolutely no evidence of wrongdoing."
see what you did there, and I like it
Memorial Day Friday is one of the "best" days of the year as regards releasing bad news!
One of my favorite parts of Ohio State's Tattoo-Gate was Gene Smith announcing that OSU had imposed a penalty on itself, giving up a few football scholarships. Smith announced that on Thursday November 10th, 2011. Less than 24 hours after Joe Paterno was fired! Truly brilliant timing by Gene.
That's just what the conference needs, another school that took graduate-level classes at the Dave Brandon School Of News Dumps Designed To Minimize Impact. I remember what you reference, that the OSU self-imposed sanctions were strategically announced in the Paterno maelstrom of news. The story almost got totally lost.
Looks like it has been....
I think you mean, "Spartan swill."
spartyon
How is humanly possible for the names of these players to remain hidden from the public as long as they have yet if a Michigan player so much as jaywalks the Detroit media all but run PSA on the player warning others to stay away froim this dangerous menance to mankind.
I get why here in Ohio the OSU players are protected by the media (only game in town) but I would think in Michigan, with two major University's, SOMEBODY in a position of authority in the media/law enforcement wouldnt be in the bag for Sparty.
Watching this from afar is quite surreal.
I mean, in a case like this, is that a bad thing? If there's enough evidence for the prosecutors to present the case to a grand jury, then by all means let that become public. But until something like that happens all involved parties should have the right to expect privacy.
Yep. Just like Grant Perry's privacy was protected.
I see what you did there.
Everybody knew why Perry was suspended before he was ever charged or arraigned. We knew about him the night it happened...
Why is the media afraid to print them? I cant help but think of the entire Max Bullough suspension and how the Detroit area media wouldnt say a word about why. Yet when Perry got suspended the same "reporters" fell over themselves to find out why and publish it.
Why the double standard?
Because Perry was arrested and charged. Jourdan Lewis was charged. It's public info. Bullough or the 3 being investigated have never been arrested or charged.
Your journalistic integrity (lol yes it still barely exists) would go down the drain if you started publishing rumored names
He was arrested but never charged. Yet he was most definitely publicly outed by the media. Sure seems to me like there's one set of standards applied when it comes to MSU athletes and quite another in play when it comes to players from Michigan when it comes to Detroit media.
It's that Green Wall
Dude it was the Michigan Daily that outed Gibbons (through an illegal document leak), and the Detroit media used them as the source. It was completely against the Family Educational Right and Privacy Act for the Daily to report it, but considering UM kept it under the rug for four years there wasn't much backlash.
That being said, you are absolutely right that the Detroit papers like to pounce on UM guys though once there is another source or some type of public record. I swear they made a bigger deal out of Alex Malzone's fake ID then any of the serious stuff going on in EL.
If a student is suspended or expelled as part of the Title IX hearing process, the news then becomes public knowledge.
No it's not public record. The CSG released a report, but not the university. Let me refer you to this great write-up by BiSB.
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/student-government-investigation-and-ferpa-…
To this day, the university has never commented or released anything on Gibbons. They were challenged by the CSG because there definitely is a gray area where Title IX and FERPA intersect that could lead to that interpretation. UM was never court ordered to release its findings. No institution would release that info without a court order.
The only thing that is required in a Title IX investigation is that the accused and accuser are notified of the outcome. It is also against the law for them to make the accuser sign an NDA or gag order (which may be why the Daily made it clear that the memo they got was "leaked" so there was no extra backlash on the victim because her and Gibbons were the only people who could publicly comment on it).
Mich9igan didn't release the records because if internal policies, not FEPA protections
FEPA para B.5. states that
(B) Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit an institution of postsecondary education from disclosing the final results of any disciplinary proceeding conducted by such institution against a student who is an alleged perpetrator of any crime of violence (as that term is defined in section 16 of title 18), or a nonforcible sex offense, if the institution determines as a result of that disciplinary proceeding that the student committed a violation of the institution's rules or policies with respect to such crime or offense.
(C) For the purpose of this paragraph, the final results of any disciplinary proceeding-
(i) shall include only the name of the student, the violation committed, and any sanction imposed by the institution on that student; and
(ii) may include the name of any other student, such as a victim or witness, only with the written consent of that other student.
http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title20-sec…
does not trump the right to privacy of those 3 MSU players.
The media doesn't always respect that right to privacy, of course. But they should.
Anyway, if the 3 players are criminally charged, their right to privacy goes out the window, of course. You'll definitely find out their names.
But even if they're not criminally charged, you'll probably find out their names eventually. Most folk know who the ND player was who was accused in that high-profile rape (subsequent suicide) case a few years back.
as a guest here, in retrospect I probably should have kept my mouth shut.
But, really ---, why (outside of a public embarassment of MSU) does anybody need to know who those 3 MSU players are NOW? Yes --- if one lives in Lansing, one can credibly make a "I need to know to protect the safety of me and my loved ones" argument. But outside of that, why would one need to know now, as opposed to when they actually get indicted?
NittanyFan has always been a good, non-troll contributor here and has politely taken his lumps about PSU for a long time. The cheapshot isn't necessary
That's not a cheapshot.
The same thing happened about 7 years ago with a possible sexual assault with the basketball team. They try to hide everything and sweep it under the rug. I don't trust the university that kept Nassar out of the public eye for 20 years.
Have you seen the shit Graham Couch has been publishing lately? Local sports journalists aren't going to put out anything that criticizes the program, unlike Detroit sports journalists who will publish anything.
but I would think in Michigan, with two major University's, SOMEBODY in a position of authority in the media/law enforcement wouldnt be in the bag for Sparty.
That right there might be the flaw in your reasoning :) :)