January 10th, 2020 at 12:37 PM ^
Dictionary definition incorporates friends and family ;-)
January 10th, 2020 at 12:47 PM ^
Jay was 100% unqualified to be here when he got here. However, he has landed a couple stud RBs and ZC was a good blocker here in his first year. I'm not saying that Jay is the best guy for the job, because he probably isn't, but he's doing a pretty good job.
Also, the RB subs have been shit since Wheatley was here. That's a Jim Harbaugh thing.
January 10th, 2020 at 12:59 PM ^
then he's really bad at it, as we hardly saw Charbonnet in the 2nd half of Alabama
Position coaches make in-game personnel decisions?
January 10th, 2020 at 9:57 PM ^
He's right, you know. Whoever controls RB substitution is awful at it.
January 10th, 2020 at 11:54 AM ^
Recruits love coaches who played in the NFL. Brian Hartline didn’t have any coaching experience. He spent 1 season as grad assistant I believe. When he got promoted to receivers coach he became the top recruiter in the country in 1 year. You don’t have to have a lot of experience coaching but you do have to be able to recruit and to teach the finer points of the position.
January 10th, 2020 at 12:03 PM ^
Not really that hard at OSU. They have been getting top talent since Hartline was a player there.
January 10th, 2020 at 12:04 PM ^
And yet, Jay seems to be one of our better recruiters.
Maybe there isn't one explanation for it all.
January 10th, 2020 at 11:09 PM ^
Jay seems to be one of our better recruiters.
How do you know?
January 10th, 2020 at 11:44 AM ^
Michigan fans seem to have an affinity for wanting to hire any former noteworthy players who could even plausibly coach like people wanting Woodson or Brady to coach here
January 10th, 2020 at 10:57 AM ^
Let's see how he does before we crown him? So far, the guy's coached at EMU, his hometown school (Syracuse), and at IU, under his former OC in DeBrod.
Also, we probably don't have an opening on staff?
January 10th, 2020 at 11:01 AM ^
Hart also coached at WMU.
January 10th, 2020 at 11:25 AM ^
Jesus dude
January 10th, 2020 at 11:42 AM ^
is that the california savior?
January 10th, 2020 at 12:12 PM ^
The Michigan difference!
January 10th, 2020 at 12:28 PM ^
Mike Hart very probably recruited IU soph RB Stevie Scott III, since Scott is from Syracuse.
As a freshman in 2018, Scott ran for 1137 yds on 228 attempts. His numbers fell off some this season, rushing for 845 yds on 178 carries, but he missed a game or two for IU after injuring his knee against Michigan.
January 10th, 2020 at 12:34 PM ^
tl; dr title
January 10th, 2020 at 1:39 PM ^
upvote for fitting entire post in the title
January 10th, 2020 at 2:49 PM ^
Maaan, next time someone goes all "what has he done, he's just a Michigan Man...I'm so tired of the Michigan Man thing" or whatever bullshit "that guy" is always saying, just because I'd prefer Hart over Jay Harbaugh...I'm going reach through my computer and smack the SHIT out of that person.
More than qualified. Like I've been saying.
Dynamic personality, would be a fantastic recruiter (which Jay already is...I know), DEVELOPS these IU guys into solid college and even NFL players. Another minority on the staff (which does matter to some...diversity is always a plus). Would be the perfect fit for that role.
January 10th, 2020 at 5:45 PM ^
What players has Mike Hart developed into NFL guys? None that I know of. I’m not saying I don’t want Hart on staff but I’ve seen numerous people state that Hart has coached NFL guys which I can’t find to be true.
Harbaugh has recruited Zach C and Blake Corum. Zach looks to be a legit NFL guy and Blake could become a draft pick as well. Jay is also in on Donovan Edwards already. Edwards is a JK Dobbins kind of guy.
January 10th, 2020 at 11:00 PM ^
What players have Jay Harbaugh developed into NFL players?
January 11th, 2020 at 8:46 AM ^
Hart has been a running back coach for 4 times as long as Jay.......like I said Jay recruited Zach and Blake who should develop into NFL guys.
January 11th, 2020 at 3:31 PM ^
But that would likely be because of Ed Warinner. And Karan Higdon was a better back in his last year because of Ed Warinner. We need to give credit where credit is due. This higher caliber of RB (and also in offensive lineman) coming to Michigan is a result of Ed Warinner being here.
January 10th, 2020 at 2:58 PM ^
Mike Hart has been a running backs coach for four different programs (EMU, WMU, Syracuse, Indiana) over eight seasons. These programs are not loaded with 4-star athletes on the offensive line. Still, four of his running backs eclipsed the 1,000-yard threshold. For comparison purposes, Karan Higdon (2018 - 1,178) is the only Michigan running back to accomplish this mark over the past eight seasons.
2012 EMU - Bronson Hill, Sophomore, 910 Yards
2013 EMU - Bronson Hill, Junior, 1101 Yards
2014 WMU - Jarvion Franklin, Freshman, 1551 Yards (MAC Offensive Player of Year)
2015 WMU - Jamauri Bogan, Freshman, 1051 Yards
2016 Syracuse - Dontae Strickland. Sophomore, 566 Yards
2017 Indiana - Morgan Ellison, Freshman, 704 Yards
2018 Indiana - Stevie Scott III, Freshman, 1137 Yards
2019 Indiana - Steve Scott III, Sophomore, 845 Yards
January 10th, 2020 at 3:09 PM ^
Thanks for actually providing some facts about Hart as a coach and not just he's a good dude who went to UM.
I will say that Western had some pretty good OL talent when Hart was there, despite them not being 4 star recruits.
Still a good 8 years overall
January 10th, 2020 at 10:58 PM ^
Your stats are the saddest indictment on Michigan coaching choices.
January 11th, 2020 at 9:37 AM ^
Strickland averaged 3.5 ypc under Hart, the worst of his career. Jarvion averaged 5.2 and 5.5 without Hart and with Hart averaged 5.1 and 4.8. Bogan definitely had his best season with Hart. Just an observation but most of these guys had a great first year with Hart and a worse second year. Not saying that means anything but it’s an observation. Stevie Scott went from averaging 5 ypc to 4.7 in his second year under Hart. This upcoming season will be the first time that Hart has had a third year with a guy. Let’s see what he does with Stevie in the upcoming season.
January 10th, 2020 at 3:39 PM ^
Hi, nice to see some good UM guys do well in their chosen profession.
Interestingly the OC Kalen DeBoer left for the Fresno State job, after he took over for Mike DeBord.
January 10th, 2020 at 4:35 PM ^
Mike Hart will be our next head coach. I wish Harbaugh would hire him as running back coach.
January 10th, 2020 at 9:46 PM ^
I need more hashtags, baby.
January 10th, 2020 at 10:09 PM ^
Great title. Upvoted.
January 10th, 2020 at 10:55 PM ^
I guess this is a backhanded insult to Michigan football coaching choices?
January 10th, 2020 at 11:10 PM ^
People are really worried about being criticized for uninformative thread titles. Pretty soon everybody will complain about thread titles being too long.
January 11th, 2020 at 11:58 AM ^
Poor Indiana.
They constantly out-scheme and out-coach us, but they never win because we have superior talent.
There's a lesson in there for us . . .