Richard75

January 15th, 2018 at 1:56 PM ^

It’s silly because in a ranking like the AP poll, you’re comparing teams that haven’t played many games and may not even have common opponents (let alone head-to-head matchups). You have to use whatever data you have to make the best possible judgment.

To ignore the closeness of a game is to discard such information. Yes, a loss is a loss, but Michigan losing to Purdue by 1 and Valpo losing to Purdue by 30 is probably a decent indicator of how Michigan and Valpo (for instance) stack up.

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robpollard

January 15th, 2018 at 1:14 PM ^

How can the vast majority of voters still have MSU in the Top 10? Their most impressive wins are against NC (which isn't a Top 10 team) and ND (which is unranked, though their best player is now hurt). They also lost a close game to Duke, when Bagley (Duke's best player) missed most of the game. Big whoop.

MSU's "resume" is not that impressive. Combine that with a horrid recent stretch of 3 games and there is no way they should be a Top 10 team. But people like Dick Vitale, Jon Rothstein and John Feinstein -- who should know better -- aren't believing what their eyes are seeing.

Maybe by the end of the year, MSU will be a legit Top 10 team. But they sure as heck aren't now.

But let's give it up for Graham Couch -- ranks OSU, #11, UM #12 and MSU #14! While I think that's too high for OSU and UM, it's at least logical. Plus, OSU and UM's wins were not flukes.

AP basketball rankings, during the season, are low in the world of importance, but it's annoying when people half-ass anything.

https://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll-voter/graham-couch

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old98blue

January 15th, 2018 at 1:17 PM ^

What would they do with us had we held on against #3 Purdue and not blown a 20 point lead against the Cooler Poopers? Would they be forced to give respect to one of the good guys in college football. I don't understand why the clean good, guys don't get recognized for doing things the right way but the Sabans, Caliparis, even that prick coach K gets blinded love and worship 

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UM Fan from Sydney

January 15th, 2018 at 1:37 PM ^

I'm actually glad we don't play MSU again. Let them sit on a dick for a year before playing Michigan again. They beat us in our number one sport. We returned the favor.

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BigBlue02

January 15th, 2018 at 3:48 PM ^

I have faith that even if we meet in the B10 tourney we can still kick their ass. And with our class coming in next year combined with the losses they will have, next year is ours too!

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WolverineHistorian

January 15th, 2018 at 1:51 PM ^

Six weeks of the media having never ending orgasms over this MSU team and treating them like they're the greatest team in history, I'd think beating them at their place would get us a little better than just barely sneaking into the rankings. Not angry. Just a little confused. But whatever. Beat Maryland.

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Eng1980

January 15th, 2018 at 2:19 PM ^

Look for another jump next week in spite of the expected wins this week.  I expect the Wolverines to grow on everyone.

MState was no lower than #4 in any of the power ratings I looked at last week so their higher ranking was warranted.  I am imagining MSU winning every remaining game this year except when we knock them out of the Big 10 tournament and then when we knock them out of the NCAA tournament.  The Wolverines inspire my imagination.

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diehardalum

January 15th, 2018 at 2:21 PM ^

Our focus has got to be on the BIG title, because it's sure as hell within reach now.  With our remaining schedule, we're going to have Purdue on the road and OSU at home for difficult wins.  Other than that, (on paper) we should not lose another game.  That at the very least would only give us 4 losses in the BIG.  If we get the OSU game we should have the crown or tie.  

 

Go Blue!!

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TrueBlue2003

January 15th, 2018 at 4:01 PM ^

to compete for the title. That game is amazingly in a week and half.  We'll know then whether we're still in it.

Odds are definitely not great.  Much more attainable is a top 4 seed.  Get to 13-5 in the conference and that's a possibility. 14-4 and it's a likelihood.  Kick off the tourney in Detroit.  Yes, please.

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ArmenHammer

January 15th, 2018 at 2:27 PM ^

So, wait...

MSU (16-3) hasn't had a credible win since November, loses 2 of their last 3, and are at #9.

Michigan (15-4) has several credible wins, was 1 point short of beating two top 5 teams in the same week, and they appear 14 spots below the team they just beat on their home floor...wtf?

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goblue16

January 15th, 2018 at 3:37 PM ^

I mean rankings in b-ball are meaningless outside the rpi and we are ranked ahead of MSU in the rpi. Still a long season it was a great win but we still have a lot of work to do and a big game tonight. Please we need to be loud to help this team win tonight

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Perkis-Size Me

January 15th, 2018 at 5:03 PM ^

How in the hell is it mathematically impossible? Each team has only played around five to six conference games and there are twelve games for Michigan left to play. We get one more crack at both Purdue and OSU, so they don't own any head-to-heads over us just yet. We also have no idea how they will both fare down the stretch. EVERY team loses a game or two at some point that it has no business losing. Are we going to win the Big Ten? Probably not. But if we beat Purdue next week (which we are more than capable of doing) we are literally right back in the race. 

It's like we're ten minutes into the game, we're down by five and you already want to throw in the towel and go home. I think you're being a little dramatic. 

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Ty Butterfield

January 15th, 2018 at 3:35 PM ^

After losing their D Coordinator, there is now a rumor that ND O-Coordinator Chip Long could be headed to Bama. The opener next season could be very interesting.

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umchicago

January 15th, 2018 at 5:30 PM ^

what sux is our scheduling this week.  after this coming sunday's game, we will have played 4 games in 8 days.  that shouldn't happen.  i will be shocked if we don't drop one of the next 3 games.  it would be awesome if they could sweep.

JB and crew are at there best when they have a few days to prepare for an opponent.  it's why he is successful in the tourny.  this is eliminated this week, which sux.

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old98blue

January 15th, 2018 at 5:37 PM ^

I don't see that Spartys resume is any better than ours the difference is they started ranked high and they get the love because they are MSU. the funny thing is that Spartys never say anything about them getting seeded better or put into a  easier bracket come tourney time because they are MSU Basketball yet they bitch because we get put into a New Years Bowl every year and they don't and they say its because of brand and its not fair

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