META: Stability of Site

Submitted by NYC Fan on

Can we please address the issues with this site and set up crowd funding to handle the costs?

Please address this Brian as there have been numerous threads on this and you continue to remain silent.

WE WANT TO HELP!

readyourguard

November 24th, 2015 at 11:26 AM ^

I believe you brought tge straw man to the party when you interjected "Brian would be on Brandon's level if he ignored his customers like that". How is Brian ignoring his customers? Because excessive traffic knocked the site down? A power outage? Sabotage? I'm willing to bet Brian was frantically working to fix the issue, rather that ignore his customers in a Brandon-esque manner.

Don

November 24th, 2015 at 11:34 AM ^

You were the one who brought Brandon's name into the conversation, and you can't seriously expect to do that without the entirety of Brandon's record coming along with that mention. It's hard to think of another sports figure who brings more negative baggage with him on MGoBlog than Brandon.

Eck Sentrik

November 24th, 2015 at 12:02 PM ^

Yes I can and should expect to not have everything about everything brought up. That's the heart of the issue with the straw man fallacy. If you cannot discuss Dave Brandon's actions on say general admission seating without thinking I'LL BET HE'S KICKED A NUMBER OF PUPPIES OVER THE YEARS* that's your problem.

 

It's pretty fucking simple guys. I responded to this:

"metric f*cktons of free content, and before you donate you want "assurances"? /wanking motion get bent"

 

With saying that's some fuck-my-stakeholders-Dave Brandon-attitude and I'm glad Brian doesn't think that way.

 

 

 

 

*my $ says he has.  

BornInA2

November 24th, 2015 at 11:26 AM ^

Technically we are the product. Site owners make money from ad revenue, not us. So the people buying ads on the site are the paying customers. And they are paying to get the ads in front of the product, us. The site content is like deer bait in hunting season; it just gets the product where it needs to be.

This is the "new way" and I'm not complaining, just pointing it out. When people understand this relationship the privacy whack-a-mole game that Facebook plays makes more sense.

Don

November 24th, 2015 at 12:58 PM ^

Which might explain your reasonable and well-intentioned but I think unrealistic expectation that baggage shouldn't accompany the mere mention of somebody's name.

Marketing generally depends on the leveraging of unspoken associations in the target audience's mind, even if they're tangential to the specific thing being marketed. That it's frequently scurrilous in intent—like racial dog-whistling in political campaign ads—doesn't mean it's not effective, unfortunately. Compartmentalization in the human mind isn't absolute.

FreddieMercuryHayes

November 24th, 2015 at 10:50 AM ^

I mean, is it really that bad?  Especially for a free site that is minimal with the ads?  I believe the last time it went Brian said it was because a user put some copyrighted material as their avatar that got flagged and the website taken offline until they could remove it.  Not sure what the MGoBlog staff can really do about that stuff unless you want every avatar to be approved before it's put on the site.  That's pretty damn labor intensive too.

pescadero

November 24th, 2015 at 12:39 PM ^

I mean, is it really that bad?  Especially for a free site that is minimal with the ads?

 

No, it's worse than that bad.

 

I've run free sites, and I'm a member of a number of other advertising supported sites (one with over 100,000 members) - and they don't have these problems.

 

Note - I didn't say they don't have these problems as often. They just plain don't have them.

 

This is a relatively cheap and easy thing to fix, that has been going on for years. It's not a traffic problem, it's not a cost problem, it's not a technology problem... it's just a lack of willingness to solve relatively simple and well understood issue.

 

A few thousand dollars to some developers, a move to virtual servers... all these problem would be gone in a month and the interface would at least get up to Y2K levels of modernity.

 

The issues here continuing aren't an insurmountable moutain - they're a choice.

pescadero

November 24th, 2015 at 1:40 PM ^

A couple of years ago they managed to gin up $60,000+ to put out a magazine, and they have something like 5 employees - $2,000 is not a large part of their budget.

 

My wife managed to come up with her hosting fees through donations on a couple hundred member site... there are what, 20-30,000 members here?