Men’s hoops - Rutgers at Michigan - Game Thread - Avoid the cellar - 4 pm BTN
The men’s hoops team hosts Rutgers this afternoon - the game tips off at 4:00 pm and will be broadcast on BTN. The loser is the sole owner of the cellar in the conference.
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Go Blue!
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:16 PM ^
The cellar is where this team belongs.
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:17 PM ^
1 single win in coming up on almost 2 full months.
At this point, it’s almost hard not to root for 10 more losses (9 regular season + 1 and done in the conference tournament) just so it forces that inept Jabba The Hutt looking AD to actually make a decision for once.
You just cannot let this continue if you’re a reasonably competent AD.
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:17 PM ^
That was just sad. The end of this season can't get here soon enough.
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:20 PM ^
Note to this thread's OP:
MBB's new goal? Avoiding this
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:23 PM ^
Avoid the Noid. He ruins pizzas!
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:22 PM ^
The football team had more wins in January than the basketball team. That in itself is grounds for termination...
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:37 PM ^
I think you may be sadly underestimating this. There is a substantial chance that as of January 1 of this year, the basketball team will not catch the football team until sometime in 2025, or even beyond!
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:26 PM ^
Well, if you're a part of the "I don't care if we go 1-11 as long as the 1 is ohio state" crowd, here's your basketball equivalent.
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:33 PM ^
Who the fuck is this person you are talking about? That is not Michigan fans. That is OSU fans posting on Michigan blogs/forums telling us about a certain 16 year stretch where they pick the time parameters specifically.
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:31 PM ^
I just watched a game where the team quit on the coach and each other, and the coach quit on the team. You can’t fire the players so you have to fire the coach.
I understand the argument about the coach’s heart condition. However, the coach did not have a long term plan in place, and that was true before the heart issue. The coach made a “win now” decision and spent scholarships on Nkamhoua, Nimari, and Tray. He brought in one freshman. One. So since we’re writing off this season, attention turns to next season. We have maybe Dug, Tarris and 3 gaping holes in the starting lineup. An NCAA team gets 13 scholarships and we can’t find 8 good players to fill out a rotation. Who is in charge of talent evaluation and recruiting? I was hoping Khayat was taking a year to adjust and would contribute significantly this season. He hasn’t. Tschetter is just a shooter. His lack of athleticism makes him unplayable.
It looks like we have 11 scholarships on the roster. What the actual fuck? And that’s counting Jace, who runs around like a baby deer. Did Steven Izzo use one of MSU’s scholarships? So instead of bringing in 3 more scholarship athletes, we let the spots be vacant. Is the answer to bring in 7-8 freshmen next season? Wouldn’t a better option be to bring in some good players this year and have them be ready to support Dug and Tarris when they are juniors and seniors?
It all just makes no sense at all. Coach Howard, who I have defended over and over again, has taken this top 10 program he inherited and driven it into the ditch in 5 years. Today - losing to Rutgers, at home, by 10 points, being on the wrong side of a 25 point swing - is an abomination. It is a fireable offense.
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:39 PM ^
As he kids would say "He just hits different". No cap.
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:40 PM ^
fr fr on god?
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:32 PM ^
Can we fire him now ?
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:36 PM ^
This experiment needs to be over.
Hate to say it, but a few years ago I warned that maybe the hype should be toned down a bit after one really good season and that I'd hate for Juwan to be the next Ewing or Hardaway. Unfortunately that's where we are.
Remember that next time someone wants really good former players to be coaches, rarely does it ever work out that way.
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:47 PM ^
That one good season was with Beilein's roster. He's been progressively worse since.
February 3rd, 2024 at 6:56 PM ^
Im sure Howard will get a couple more seasons to turn things around! But he is on the hot seat!
February 3rd, 2024 at 7:00 PM ^
Maybe it gets bad enough that we can have a midseason firing.
February 3rd, 2024 at 7:00 PM ^
Being able to play the game doesn't mean you can coach the game.
February 3rd, 2024 at 7:04 PM ^
After today's game, Juwan should have been fired before he got to the locker room!
February 3rd, 2024 at 7:16 PM ^
Sorry, I have a few more things to get off my chest. The worst Michigan team in my lifetime was the 7-20* team from the’81-‘82 season. There may be some worse Ellerbe teams, but I was checked out of UofM hoops then, probably because that was pre-BTN and I could get maybe 2-3 games per season to watch.
I always refer to that ‘81-‘82 team as the Thad Garner team. The reason for that is Thad was the only legitimate Big 10 level starter on that team. He busted his ass every single game. That team started out 0-13. They lost all of the non-conference body bag games you’re supposed to pad your record with. But Thad wouldn’t let them quit. He had pride.
Eventually, freshman Eric Turner started figuring things out and he and Thad led the team to a 6-7 record down the stretch.
There is no Thad Garner on this team providing energy, hustle and leadership. There is no Eric Turner providing hope for the future.
There is no growth or improvement. It is just the worst Michigan basketball team I’ve ever seen.
*Wisconsin had to forfeit a victory, so really that team was 6-21.
February 3rd, 2024 at 7:31 PM ^
Uh, Howard was on the hot seat 5 losses ago in combo with the Sanderson situation. He has turned a perennial top 10 and elite 8 contender with Beilein into the bottom half of the B1G.
I just don’t see a path to retaining him. None.
So who gets the job?
February 3rd, 2024 at 7:57 PM ^
I think we're in the bottom fourteenth.
February 3rd, 2024 at 8:17 PM ^
Get ready for Warde to keep him another year …
February 3rd, 2024 at 7:33 PM ^
Watching the press conference it sure sounds to me like he's throwing the players under the bus as well and claims his system works because they made an elite 8 and sweet 16. While that is true it was also with a better built roster and mostly JB players.
It just feels like something changed with the program. Maybe it was after the scuffle at Wisconsin. Maybe it was something else, but things have changed in the last 2 years and it's not likely to be fixed anytime soon.
February 3rd, 2024 at 7:44 PM ^
Yeah when you've reached the "blaming players" phase you know it's over. If the players haven't checked out yet then they certainly will after that. Sanderson was right, the culture sucks and it's because of Juwan.
February 3rd, 2024 at 7:44 PM ^
Nothing has changed with the program and that is the issue - the players are not developed properly nor are they put in the right position to succeed. It has been this way for years.
February 3rd, 2024 at 8:09 PM ^
Did he really say that? Sounds a lot like Matt Patrica in Detroit saying he knows what he's doing because he was the defensive coordinator when the Patriots intercepted the ball at the 1 in the Super Bowl.
February 3rd, 2024 at 8:31 PM ^
To be fair, Patricia was right when he said the Lions had a talent deficiency.
It was at head coach & GM.
February 3rd, 2024 at 9:02 PM ^
He said it in his 3rd season after a loss
February 3rd, 2024 at 7:41 PM ^
Juwan will quit in the offseason and blame his health because Warde doesn't have the balls to fire him.
February 3rd, 2024 at 7:55 PM ^
Warde doesn’t have balls, period. They should both be fired together.
February 3rd, 2024 at 8:04 PM ^
Glad we played 2 today. Thanks WBB! Go BLUE.