It never happens to them. NEVER. I am working on Jinxing them.
Don't want to hear facts. :)
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Yep. Hollis is a douche. He screwed over all the other B1G teams. GAWD. I hate that guy and I am sure Indiana, MD and Purdue feel the same way. MSU will be back in final four again. Virginia is their only challenge and I am not sure if they can stop MSU.
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Their quadrant of the bracket was by far the weakest.
This is what Hollis does. He under seeds MSU but puts them in the easiest region in the tournament.
Remember the "region of death" he put Michigan in a few years ago? Wichita, UK, Louisville and Duke? Michigan was a #2 seed. Meanwhile MSU was seeed lower but put in a region with Nova, Virginia, and Cincy.
Last year Wisconsin had to go through Oregon, UNC, Arizona, and Kentucky just to get to play Duke. MSU you ask? Georgia, OU, Virginia, and a weak Louisville.
How more people are recognizing this trend is beyond me.
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March 13th, 2016 at 10:07 PM ^
How many guys are in there making the brackets? There is no way they have a schools AD in there pulling all the strings like that. I am guessing his influence is pretty small.
Last year MSU had to go through this: 2015 Virginia, Oklahoma, Louisville, Duke in a row...
I know that 's an easy bracket for most 7 seeds, so yeah, Hollis really helped them. Especially because he can't be in the room when they're discussing or seeding MSU. But He does have all that power.
The final four before that one? 2009. MSU had to go through: 2009 Kansas, Louisville, Uconn and UNC in row...
I know, that's an easy draw also. We were very fortunate.
This year, I like MSU's draw. It does seem favorable. I think someone said it, but I"d take a 2 seed in the midwest over a 1 seed out west. But some of you guys are looking for way too many black helicopters.
Now, that punt? Hollis called Delany, told him to get in the had phones of Harbaugh, tol Harbaugh to send 3 gunners down against nobody, and then had only 6 blockers trying to block ten guys. That was completely set up because Delany and Hollis who I personally saw doing shots together at a tailgate before that game, and they were talking about "outs" if the game was close. I think you have to concentrate more on that and less on committees.
Everyone picked them to go to the final 4 despite that seed. I never saw a 7 seed picked by so many people on selection night. You can't do that unless you have the best draw of the tournament.
MSU went 23-11 last year in the regular season, so a #7 seed was pretty good for them.
They do have another easy region.
We got a great draw. Tulsa is the worst of the first four (albeit not the worst at-large team - that'd be Temple or Oregon state) and ND is the 39th team in kenpom and a good matchup in terms of athleticism for us.
Fairly quickly, which fans understand how the selection process works, and which don't...
How they made it in with their record is baffling. Everyone is crapping on Michigan, but how Syracuse got in surprises me. They lost four of five and last beat a ranked team in January (ND). I hope we make enough of a run so all the doubters can realize they were wrong.
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Umm guys....Hollis isn't the chair yet. Just so you know. I mean does no one remember how easy our path was in 14 before losing to UK.
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Really...do we need to look at the seeds of those teams? Lets not go by name value here and what their resumes were. Our 14 run as a mirror to MSU last year with upsets galore. Lets get off of our high horse and see reality for once.
when talking about resume, you should look at the kenpom ratings of the teams in that bracket. It was murderous. UK as an 8 seed despite having by far the best talent in the bball and a top 20 kenpom, going into the tourney. Tennessee was the 11th (!!!) rated kenpom team going into despite being an 11 seed, so their run was not only not surprising, but it led to us playing as difficult of a team as a two seed could be expected to play in the sweet 16. Add in Louisville, and whomever was the 3 and 4 seeds in that bracket and it was absolutely the bracket of death. Yes, with Lou and UK in the other side, we didn't have the face the absolute toughest part of it until the elite game, but that's what we deserved as a 2 seed.
It was only "easy" because Duke got upset by Mercer. Michigan got screwed by being put in that loaded region. Meanwhile MSU was playing Delaware, Harvard, and Virginia.
March 13th, 2016 at 10:45 PM ^
Well, this is an incredibly dumb argument because it was only "easy" for MSU since fifth seeded Cincinnati was upset by 12th seeded Harvard.
March 13th, 2016 at 11:17 PM ^
Yeah, because Duke and Cincy are totally comparable. LOL
If your rumor comes true, I will upvote you everytime you post.
Get a grip dude!
Can't downvote on here, so I gave you a vigorous thumbs down gesture from behind my computer.
March 13th, 2016 at 11:35 PM ^
Why the NCAA allows Division I athletic directors to sit on the Division I selection committee is something I've never understood. Not only does it seem like an obvious conflict of interest, most of them don't even have a background in basketball to justify it.
End of story.
It's insane that sitting athletic directors make up the committee. Whose idea was that?
meet Spartan Mark
Hollis has been very good for State. I'd hope for the same if our AD was in there. Flipping to the haterade side of things, apparently its time to resurrect the the:
Doug Gottlieb... Michigan hating dochebag
thread from a few years back as well.
Utah is overrated. They do have Seton Hall and Purdue. Virginia is the weakest 1 seed IMO.
March 13th, 2016 at 10:06 PM ^
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March 13th, 2016 at 10:11 PM ^
What a lame thread - just STFU and worry about Michigan.
Nah, I think I'll point out what a lot people around the country have been grumbling about re MSU for years now.
Only person that needs to "STFU" is you.
Seriously man? If by "around the country" you are referring only to Michigan fans even that might not be accurate. MSU should be a 1 seed, so being a 2 seed in the same region as the the lowest 1 seed is still a raw deal since an argument can be made that they should be the 2nd overall seed and could be in the same region as 2 seeded Xavier or Oklahoma, both of whom are worse than Virginia.
This whole "Hollis screwing over Michigan while helping MSU" argument is exactly why other fan bases view Michigan's as arrogant pricks. You honestly think there is some committee conspiracy going on where they are blatantly trying to screw over Michigan and other Big Ten teams while also doing their best to help MSU? Take off your tinfoil hat and get a hold of reality. Who gives a shit about how "easy" one region is to another? Just beat the team you're slotted against. Plenty of teams get screwed over or are given "an easy path" every year, so stop bitching about something you and everyone else on here has zero control over. Grow a sack, man up, and quit being a whiny bitch because frankly, it's beneath the Michigan fan base.
March 14th, 2016 at 10:07 AM ^
The committee has to pick 34 at-large teams and then seed and slot 68 different teams in different areas of the country. I, by no means think they did a great job, but I and the committee will never be perfect. If you believe that Hollis has that much control, then how did we even get into the tournament?
For the same reasons that we were all joking 11W and RCMB about how much they talked about Harbaugh/Signing of the Stars and how much the SEC was doing to prevent the IMG spring practices, we are doing the same thing here.
I'm proud of the way the team hung with Indiana and ultimately secured a spot in the Big Dance. I'd much rather spend the next couple of days talking about how if we can get a couple more shots to fall, we could win a few games and maybe make it to the second weekend and surprise even the fans on this board