Marcus Freeman is 0-3 as ND Head Coach

Submitted by skegemogpoint on September 10th, 2022 at 5:55 PM

NFM necessary. #Frauds #DominatedByCincyandMarshall

Indy Pete - Go Blue

September 10th, 2022 at 5:55 PM ^


Somehow, in some weird way, I feel like watching Rudy with my family last week was me playing my small part for this amazing result to happen. I watched we are Marshall about a month ago, and it just all came together. Is this about me? Yes, this is about me. But it’s also about US! What a glorious loss!

Creedence Tapes

September 10th, 2022 at 6:44 PM ^

It was a foolish hire.  No way did he have the resume for that job.

Right? This was just as bad as Oklahoma hiring Lincoln Riley and Clemson hiring Dabo Swinney, both of whom did not have a long head coaching resume. And how did that work out for Oklahoma & Clemson? I'll tell you how. B. A. D. Bad. Oklahoma had to hire a new coach last year, and Clemson had to struggle through several years of mediocrity. That's why Notre Dame should have hired a head coach with big long resume, like a Mack Brown. Now that would have been a good hire.

Buy Bushwood

September 10th, 2022 at 8:11 PM ^

Occasionally it works out, obviously.  But, on average, promoting young assistants with only a couple years of experience to run a blueblood program isn't a smart move. You're pretty hot because you give a few examples (and I'm not sold on Riley being all that), but how about Bob Davies, Frank Solich, Larry Coker, Rick Neuheisel, Clay Helton, Mark Helfrich, Jimmy Lake, Ron Zook, Ron Jeremy.  Why did you forget all the losers?.  I'd wager that there's a much better statistical chance of success if a major program like Notre Dame goes out and hires an established head coach.  

Richard75

September 10th, 2022 at 6:48 PM ^

To be fair, Freeman had pretty much exactly the same resume as Ryan Day.

  • Freeman had 6 years as a college coordinator (1 at Purdue, 4 at Cincinnati, 1 at ND) and 5 as a college position coach
  • Day had 5 years as a college coordinator (1 at Temple, 2 at BC, 2 at OSU), 3 as a college position coach and 2 as an NFL position coach
  • Freeman coordinated a top-20 unit twice (UC #13 yards/play against 2018, #4 2020)
  • Day coordinated a top-20 unit twice (OSU #10 yards/play 2017, #11 2018)

bronxblue

September 10th, 2022 at 7:11 PM ^

I think the difference is that Meyer helped with the transition to Day; Kelly bolted from ND as LSU's 5th choice for the HC job and you get a sense that they went with Freeman as much because they didn't have the time or candidates for a thorough interview process as they thought he was ready for the job.

 

MIMark

September 10th, 2022 at 10:41 PM ^

One big difference though. Freeman spent all of his career pre-2021 working for Jim Tressel or Jim Tressel assistants (Hazel at Purdue, Fickell at Cincinnati). Then one year under Kelly at ND and then he's the head coach. He didn't have the variety of experience or mentorship. He may work out in the long run but he's got a steep learning curve.

Midukman

September 10th, 2022 at 6:00 PM ^

Yeah but Ohio state beat a “GREAT” Norte Dame team last week who’ll finish in the top 5. OSU wouldn’t have won that game if their defense “wasn’t completely turned around”. What a frigging joke. Rock Paper Scissors says we beat that OSU ass like a drum in that shithole stadium.. 

Eng1980

September 10th, 2022 at 6:41 PM ^

I want to beat a good, ranked ND team every year.  I want them to be very good so that it feels good when we crush them.

I absolutely cringed when ND hired a coach without head coaching experience and without a pedigree with the note that he was the players' choice.  Not a good formula for success.  A fan favorite or a player's favorite has been a formula for disaster my entire fan life.