Major Trade Alert: Carolina Panthers now own #1 pick.

Submitted by Hotel Putingrad on March 10th, 2023 at 5:49 PM

Carolina acquires first overall pick from Chicago for #9, second rounder this year, first and second rounders next year, and WR DJ Moore.

Not a Bears fan by any stretch, but that's good work by GM Ryan Poles.

Now, who does Carolina take at #1? Stroud or Young or other?

UNCWolverine

March 10th, 2023 at 5:58 PM ^

what a great spot for Chicago, several teams sent them best offers. The Lions always seem to win in the last week to give them worse picks. Thank god last year they got Aidan.

Gonna be Young.

The Oracle 2

March 10th, 2023 at 6:00 PM ^

If I were making the pick, I’d be very leery of Young’s size. He’s not a favorite here, for obvious reasons, but Stroud has the size and the arm. He was excellent against Michigan both times and had an outstanding game against Georgia.

njvictor

March 10th, 2023 at 6:32 PM ^

Stroud has the makings of another OSU QB who throws to open receivers in a scheme made to make a QBs life easy with a never ending supply of top 100 receivers and then can't hang in the NFL. I frankly don't care about Young's size. He has the moxy, arm talent, and mobility to be a big time NFL QB. If he was a few inches taller, he would be the consensus #1 pick and it wouldn't be a debate

ERdocLSA2004

March 10th, 2023 at 10:48 PM ^

Size seems overrated
 

Not the best argument when you list only 2 guys and both had subpar years. Obviously you don’t need size to be successful, but it certainly improves the odds that a QB will be an nfl talent.  
 

Stroud is the easy choice.  Size, arm, accuracy, and plenty of good film.  Is it all a big mirage because of the system he was in?  Possibly.  I’ll take Young’s intelligence and moxy, and Stroud’s measurables.

Oscar

March 10th, 2023 at 8:14 PM ^

"Stroud has the makings of another OSU QB who throws to open receivers in a scheme made to make a QBs life easy with a never ending supply of top 100 receivers and then can't hang in the NFL."

 

I don't disagree, however what you explained sounds a lot like Alabama's QBs as well.

Grampy

March 11th, 2023 at 9:14 AM ^

None of us on this thread (that I know of) has the burden of actually making Charlotte's pick, so this is all yip-yap at this point.  Chicago got best market value for their pick, but you can bet that Charlotte knows who they want and has done a ton more research on the various draft QBs than any of us.  They're in a difficult position, though, with having to do something about their dreadful QB room, but knowing that about half of the QB taken in the top half of the first round since 2016 are ham'n'eggers.  There aren't any can't-miss prospects this year, they all have at least one red flag, two if you count having to play behind Charlotte's OL.

The Blue Collar

March 10th, 2023 at 6:02 PM ^

That's a good haul, but I thought they'd get 2 future #1s.

I think they'll take Young. 

This is a good development from a Lions perspective, increases the chances 4 QBs go before they pick. 

Now Arizona just needs to swap with Atlanta...

RobM_24

March 10th, 2023 at 11:11 PM ^

Hollywood Brown and AJ Brown both got traded for 1st+3rd picks. With the current WR FA pool, Moore is probably worth that, or more. So the Bears essentially moved back 8 spots to get the value of two firsts, two seconds, and a third. It's also possible that the first next year is an overall #1 again, bc the Panthers with no CMC, no Moore, and a rookie QB will almost surely be a bottom 5 team. Especially with perennial bad teams like the Lions, Jags, Jets all being better. The Bears could also be very bad, which would leave them with two very high firsts next year for a QB if they're ready to move on from Fields, or trade back again and roll one #1 pick in 2023 into stockpile of high end draft picks in 23/24/25.

thelomasbrowns

March 10th, 2023 at 6:15 PM ^

Good move by Poles. Still not convinced he's a good evaluator of talent or knows how to build a team.

ERdocLSA2004

March 10th, 2023 at 10:56 PM ^

This definitely seems like a make or break year for Fields doesn’t it?  Year 1: bad, year 2:  not as bad, maybe a glimpse of a great qb at times.  Year 3 there will need to be a substantial leap.  Either way, excellent moves by the GM.  I don’t think Young or Stroud are enough of a guarantee over Fields so definitely a good move.  

SalvatoreQuattro

March 10th, 2023 at 6:20 PM ^

Great haul for Bears. Bad trade for Panthers. Five players for one? Eep.

Moore is going to be a pain for the Lions. Lions really need to focus on CB now.

That said, this improves the odds of getting a shot at Anderson. Not sure they will go after Carter now with his legal issues.

njvictor

March 10th, 2023 at 6:27 PM ^

I will never understand why teams will give up so much to move up only a handful of picks. This day and age, if you have the #1 pick, you should 100% trade it unless there is a generational player because there will be a team that will be willing to give up an absurd amount to get there. Bryce Young is not worth a potential #1 receiver, and 4 potentially good to very good players. Not to mention the Bears still have their 1st rounder next year. Bears could be in business

UMxWolverines

March 10th, 2023 at 6:44 PM ^

Carolina is turning into a dumpster fire real quick, I've lost count of how many QBs they've started lately...and now they've given up the farm to draft either a guy whos less than 6' tall or a guy who to me was less impressive than Justin Fields with probably a better group of receivers. 

lebriarjr

March 10th, 2023 at 7:00 PM ^

It’s the Panthers they will draft another 🐊 NFL bust in Richardson, I guarantee it.  I live in NC, they make the dumbest choices on QB’s.