Chuck Norris

February 8th, 2018 at 12:21 AM ^

Honestly, why even post this? No one agrees with the click bait, no one was happier from reading it, and it contributed nothing other than spinning facts that we already know in an overly negative way.

Bluetotheday

February 8th, 2018 at 1:55 AM ^

Brought a lot of attention, with no big wins. Love the guy, but he has yet to back up his media worthiness. Summer swarm, Europe trips, pope Jordans, sleep overs...Jordan brand.... His goodwell needs to enhance the bottom line

Squash34

February 8th, 2018 at 4:24 AM ^

The guy bet four division chsmps, has 5 wins over ten win teams and one over a 89 win team, 2 finished top ten, the other 3 finished top 25. Yet, people always reguritate this nonsense that he has yet to win a big game here. If beating a team that finished in the top ten us not a big game you are basically limiting "big games" to OSU. So just say he has yet to bet OSU, because he has won big games, just not against them.

B1G Winning

February 8th, 2018 at 7:36 AM ^

Big hands, small phone, poor proof-reading skills. Just came back to edit my original post but you've locked it in for all of eternity. I'll start my walk of atonement now.

burtcomma

February 8th, 2018 at 2:05 AM ^

The only thing that counts will be 2018 football victories, the rest of this constant handwringing is not germane. Let the sportswriters write, no one remembers anything but the W-L record.

UMForLife

February 8th, 2018 at 7:15 AM ^

Wow. I feel dumb reading these comments and the article. When they win in 2018 I am expecting all these so called fans to go to rcmb and 11w and stay there. This is going to be a long off season and it feels like we just went 3-9 based on comments.

bronxblue

February 8th, 2018 at 7:46 AM ^

It's a factually true if wildly misleading NY Post article that paints someone negatively to get clicks. Or, as we say, your average NY Post article. It's fine. Football fandom is the long game. History says Michigan is going to be one of the better teams in the country. OSU is an elite program that has yet to stub their toe badly. They will, and Michigan will get some breaks, and in the end it will all wash out. People keep expecting OSU to have a terrible decade and they probably won't, but they will have struggles. And MSU feels like a team on borrowed time, and if the last two wins by MSU are any indication as well as all the issues that whole place has had off the field, it feels like their little run might be ending sooner rather than later.

Bodogblog

February 8th, 2018 at 8:38 AM ^

For MSU yes that was true one year ago today. And he did say long game. For a period there in the 90's OSU fans didn't believe they'd ever beat Michigan again. There are so many emo dudes on this site. This after a 3 year period in which Michigan finished #12 and #10 in the country in 2 of them.

bronxblue

February 8th, 2018 at 10:16 AM ^

I didn't like during the Bump era, but that seemed horrible.  And UM emerged fine from that.  

But Michigan probably isn't ever going to be Alabama or even OSU for reasons in and out of their control.  But if 8-5 with the youngest team in America and 3 different QBs is the bottom for Harbaugh, it's not the worst.

 

bronxblue

February 8th, 2018 at 9:59 AM ^

I'll admit to being wrong becuase, honestly, MSU defies expectations.  They recruit at a middling level, don't have a plethora of talent, and yet they keep winning.  But they also went 3-9 and their two wins against Michigan have been memorable for their unlikeliness.

I think they were a paper tiger this year; they went something like 6-1 in 1-score games, and that's similar to their 2015 year where they got blown out in the CFP.  And this off-season they've lost a couple of more WRs from a mediocre passing offense.  They are young, like Michigan, but didn't suffer losses at QB like Michigan (imagine them having to play Damion Terry and then imagine how bad they'd be).  Next year they could 100% be another top-15 team, or they could regress a bit and finish 8-5.  

In the long view of college athletics, teams like MSU don't remain dominant.  Maybe they stay this way until Dantonio is gone.  But I have decades of evidence saying they aren't a consistent top-10 team in the country, and I am confident saying that will play out in the long run,

Jangalang

February 8th, 2018 at 8:29 AM ^

"Journalist" wrote an article about two months ago about how Patterson could lead this team to a National Championship.

"They were already going to have big expectations next year with so many returning starters, but an addition like Patterson — with Ohio State (J.T. Barrett) and Penn State (Saquon Barkley) losing their best offensive players — could make the Wolverines a Big Ten and national championship contender."

Full article here:

https://nypost.com/2017/12/05/jim-harbaugh-might-steal-a-qb-that-can-win-him-a-national-title/

 

Mongo

February 8th, 2018 at 8:53 AM ^

the OL ditch Hoke put us in is devastating to an otherwise high potential season. Defense is top 5 and will be for the foreseeable future. QB looks promising. TEs are developing into NFL caliber. FBs will be a strength. RBs are solid. WRs are elite 5* rated guys and deep. But it is the OL that is holding us back in 2018. The Hoke ditch plus the poor recruiting start is going to haunt us until 2019, when the young guys - Ruiz, Stueber, Hudson, Filiaga, Honigford, Mayfield - hopefully emerge into full manhood under Herbert. The 2018 OL will be more patchwork and loads of hand-ringing is my expectation. Maybe Shea can scramble us to a couple extra wins, but the 2018 schedule is brutal.

Carcajou

February 8th, 2018 at 9:38 AM ^

Interesting recruiting rankings comparions highlighted:
Hoke: 30; 4; 6; 20
Harbaugh: 37; 5; 8; 21
Strangely similar, though Hoke had slightly better ranked classes each year.

That's where the comparison ought to end, however.
 

 

Moonlight Graham

February 8th, 2018 at 11:48 AM ^

Hoke:

Year 1: 11-2; 2-1 vs. ND, MSU, OSU; BCS win. 

Year 2: 8-5; 1-2 vs. ND, MSU, OSU; Outback loss to S. Carolina

Year 3: 7-6; 1-2 vs. ND, MSU, OSU; bowl loss

First three years: 26-13, 4-5 vs. rivals, 1-2 in bowls, 1-0 in BCS (NY6) win. 

Harbaugh: 

First three years: 28-11, 1-5 vs. rivals, 1-2 in bowls, 0-1 in NY6 (BCS) bowls. 

TheTruth41

February 8th, 2018 at 9:52 AM ^

How the 'related articles' state "NFL architects: How Giants can recruit a top GM and coach"

 

One 'top coach' listed?  Jim Harbaugh.  The NY Post is all over the place on their views on Jim.  Just throwing any garbage out there and seeing what will stick.

Moonlight Graham

February 8th, 2018 at 11:42 AM ^

Unfortunate to say, but true. 

This all started for me when I listened to the first few weeks of him and Jack's podcast. I really enjoyed it, but mostly for Jack. Jim seemed to just be sitting there half-working, half-participating. But in the back of my mind I was thinking "can't this just be Jack's podcast during the season, and have Jim participate in the off-season (or as an occasional guest?). 

Then the Michigan State night game happened. 

And the podcast thing took on a whole new dimension and I started looking at Harbaugh through a whole new lens. I still haven't really recovered much of my previous level of excitement about him, especially with the Outback performance. Something still seems a bit "off." Is it that I don't think he's' working hard enough? Stubbornly set it his ways? Doesn't care as much? Those are REALLY difficult things for me to say about this man, given his history. But I just said them. 

stmccoy

February 8th, 2018 at 2:04 PM ^

The author has clearly not watched football games under both Hoke and Harbaugh. While we may all be disappointed, anyone who witnessed both tenures understands that is a silly comparison.

Mpfnfu Ford

February 8th, 2018 at 6:59 PM ^

There's no way around that, no point in sugar coating it. And when you put yourself out there as one of the sports ubiquitous faces and court attention, you're going to draw a backlash and people are absolutely going to tap dance on your face when you screw up. That's the nature of the beast.

There's only one thing for it: win games and don't whiff on your recruiting.