Looking back at every 5 star Michigan has signed

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on April 27th, 2020 at 8:43 PM

From the 247 Composite rankings which cover the modern recruiting rankings era. 

Every 5 star we've signed ranked by their 247 percentage

  1. 2016- Rashan Gary, DT (1.0000)
  2. 2014- Jabrill Peppers, ATH (0.9992)
  3. 2007- Ryan Mallett, QB (0.9978)
  4. 2003- LaMarr Woodley, LB (0.9972)
  5. 2003- Prescott Burgess, S (0.9970)
  6. 2001- Kelly Baraka, RB (0.9944)
  7. 2006- Brandon Graham, LB (0.9930)
  8. 2019- Daxton Hill, S (0.9927)
  9. 2017- Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR (0.9925)
  10. 2004- Chad Henne, QB (0.9924)
  11. 2001- Ernest Shazor, S (0.9922)
  12. 2005- Kevin Grady, RB (0.9914)
  13. 2017- Aubrey Solomon, DT (0.9879)
  14. 2013- Derrick Green, RB (0.9874)
  15. 2019- Chris Hinton, DT (0.9867)
  16. 2001- Marlin Jackson, CB (0.9857)
  17. 2005- Marques Slocum, OG (0.9853)
  18. 2007- Donovan Warren, (0.9845)
  19. 2002- Gabe Watson (0.9839)

NOTE: 2021 commit J.J. McCarthy (0.9899) would be #13 on this list if his ranking sticks and he signs. 

#17......

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Watching From Afar

April 27th, 2020 at 8:59 PM ^

Peppers, Woodley, Graham, Henne, Shazor, Jackson, Warren, and Watson all delivered to varying degrees. Some All-Americans and others All-Conference multiple times.

Not really counting Mallett because he left with the coaching change.

Green, Grady, Baraka, and Solcum were all busts.

Gary, DPJ, and Burgess were good but never great.

Hinton and Hill are TBD.

Edit: Moved Burgess down a grade. Remembered him too fondly.

MichiganStan

April 28th, 2020 at 6:17 AM ^

Gary was drafted in the 1st based on potential. Defintely didnt give us anywhere near the numbers youd expect from a #1 HS recruit. 

Whatd he have like 9 sacks in 3 seasons here? He was hyped as if hed have 9 sacks per season at least

JonnyHintz

April 29th, 2020 at 6:50 AM ^

”Peppers, Woodley, Graham, Henne, Shazor, Jackson, Warren, and Watson all delivered to varying degrees. Some All-Americans and others All-Conference multiple times.” 
 

Multiple all-conference accolades would still put him in this group though, would it not? We can sit here and debate how good or how great he was. But he’s certainly delivered if you consider this group as delivering. 

Watching From Afar

April 27th, 2020 at 10:18 PM ^

Shazor was an All-American.

Warren was Freshman All-American.

I was wrong on Burgess. He was ok.

Watson was similar in college accomplishments. All-Conference multiple years.

I was looking at how they did in college and not draft position.

Gary was the holy grail and didn't produce like a consensus #1 Clowney type does. The other guys weren't on the same planet hype wise if I remember correctly.

Watching From Afar

April 28th, 2020 at 10:36 AM ^

It's a myriad of things. Ignoring bad decisions that result in guys getting kicked off teams, WRs and RBs are dependent on OL and QB play more than other positions are dependent on their teammates. CBs on crappy defenses can still be good because they just need to break up passes when the ball heads their way. DEs just need to pass rush. WRs on the other hand, if the ball is 5 feet away from them, what can they do? If you're a RB and have 3 guys in the backfield the second you get the ball, you're screwed.

Traditional RBs who have bad OLs struggle. Barkley was crazy good, in part, because he didn't need the OL to get him a hole. He split out, ran routes, and juked his way to yardage. He also had a ton of negative plays like Sanders did with the Lions. Michigan hasn't had those types of RBs. If Green got hit in the backfield because of a crap OL, it was over.

UM Indy

April 27th, 2020 at 9:12 PM ^

Swinging and missing on a 5 star is particularly frustrating and frankly somewhat embarrassing. Wonder if Michigan’s proportion of 5 star busts is on par with other programs that have gotten the same or more 5 stars in the same time period. Feels like it’s higher but that could just be my miserableness coming through. 

befuggled

April 28th, 2020 at 11:07 AM ^

It’s not just us. Look at Randy Moss back in the nineties--he was a big zero for two big-time schools before he ended up at Marshall.

He signed a LOI with Notre Dame but never actually got in because of a fight he got into in high school. He went to Florida State but he had to sit out a year because the NCAA considered this a transfer. Then he violated his probation (for marijuana, which is admittedly bullshit) and never played a down at FSU before transferring to Marshall.

Moss obviously panned out as a player, but not for Notre Dame or Florida State.

The Fugitive

April 27th, 2020 at 9:18 PM ^

That list has like 9 wins vs Ohio State all obviously from the early 2000s.

Where's the equally depressing list of guys that M finished second to? Probably mostly Bama and OSU players. 

MGoStrength

April 27th, 2020 at 9:20 PM ^

Analysis?  I'm surprised the hit rate seems as good as it is.  The 5-star hit rate is only about 50% and I count well over 50% of those guys were quite successful.

CC

April 28th, 2020 at 11:45 AM ^

I think over the last 3-4 years the hit rate nationally for 5* players has increased substantially.  I think I saw that on 247.  IIRC it was something north of 75%.  I don't recall what a "hit" was considered.  

CFraser

April 27th, 2020 at 9:52 PM ^

I remember meeting Slocum (#91 photo) in San Antonio at the Army Bowl when I was in medic training. Too bad he didn’t pan out. 
 

Desean Jackson had the play of the game where he flipped for a TD and downed himself at the 1. He did it in the NFL too. 

That’s my cool story bro for the night. 

tspoon

April 28th, 2020 at 12:55 PM ^

That all-American CB also won Mr Ohio in high school primarily because he was a superstar running back. He chose Michigan in no small part because we promised he could primarily play CB.  But the desire (on both sides) was always there for him to touch the ball at least situationally.  Let's not pretend Lloyd was some visionary whose creative juices turned Charles into a surprise offensive star.

Coldwater

April 27th, 2020 at 10:55 PM ^

Of those listed my opinion of the top five guys who had the best career at Michigan. Success in the NFL is no factor here.

1.Lamar Woodley

2. Brandon Graham

3. Chad Henne

4. Marlin Jackson

5. Donovan  Warren 

 

ckersh74

April 27th, 2020 at 11:12 PM ^

I see 6 that didn’t pan out for Michigan, regardless of what they did elsewhere: Mallett, Baraka, Grady, Solomon, Green, Slocum. 30% of our 5 stars didn’t amount to much at Michigan, or they went elsewhere. I wonder what the whiff rate is other schools.

Frank Chuck

April 27th, 2020 at 11:25 PM ^

1. So we've signed some 5 star players who would be ranked a 5 star in a retrospective re-ranking.

2. But we've also signed some overrated 5 star players who most certainly wouldn't be ranked a 5 star in a re-ranking.

Those 2 statements are true for all the blue bloods and nouveau riche (like LSU, UF, Miami, etc.)