Kwity Paye's Climb in 247 Composite Rankings
Kwity Paye jumped up 412 spots in the 247 Composite rankings according to the Pre-UA practice rankings. He is up to #537 247 composite rankings now.
It will be curious to see what happens to his rankings now that he gets a chance against much better competition than he sees in RI.
Rankings as of Today:
Scout | Rivals | ESPN | 247 | 247 Comp |
3* #71 DE | 3*, #34 WDE | 4*, 80, #26 WDE |
3*, 86, #45 WDE, #827 |
3*, #32 WDE, #537 Ovr |
From his Hello post:
Scout | Rivals | ESPN | 247 | 247 Comp |
3* #70 DE | 3*, #40 WDE | 4*, 80, #26 WDE |
3*, 86, #42 WDE, #806 Ovr |
3*, #45 WDE, #949 Ovr |
In case you were wondering, he would be MSU's sixth-best commit.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:20 PM ^
December 28th, 2016 at 8:52 AM ^
"Sparty will take 3 to 4 to develop."
In prison?
December 27th, 2016 at 10:21 PM ^
Don Brown dude if I remember right. 3* or not, with our player development and a guy who fits Brown's scheme, my prediction:
PAYNE for our enemies.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:25 PM ^
Opposing teams will Paye dearly.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:31 PM ^
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December 27th, 2016 at 11:20 PM ^
December 27th, 2016 at 11:24 PM ^
Here Kwity, Kwity, Kwity....
December 28th, 2016 at 8:46 AM ^
Whatever he Kwits, he destroys.
December 28th, 2016 at 8:54 AM ^
...ah, you can fill out the rest.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:30 PM ^
December 28th, 2016 at 10:28 AM ^
it seems like 247 miscalculated his ranking at the time of his commitment. 247 gave him his lowest rating and his composite was worse than that.
December 28th, 2016 at 11:04 AM ^
The # rating is a relative one. He doesn't have to change much to change his position, if others are changing.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:30 PM ^
Damn, if he gets up to 260-270ish or more and gains or keeps that speed, should be a solid dude. Get it done!
December 27th, 2016 at 10:37 PM ^
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December 27th, 2016 at 10:44 PM ^
It's funny that his rankings didn't change much, yet he jumped 412 spots. I agree.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:50 PM ^
Exactly, doesn't make sense...but whatever, he's a scheme/niche player for our DC and we need those. I'm certain he'll out perform his ranking in the role that he plays.
December 28th, 2016 at 8:42 AM ^
Exactly.
At first I thought maybe Don Brown wanted him because he was at BC and this was the type of kid he could get.
But Brown's earned enough equity with the fan base to trust him that if he still wants the kid when he's at Michigan, he must fit in the sysem somehow.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:51 PM ^
December 27th, 2016 at 11:24 PM ^
What?
EDIT: Ahhh... I get it now. This confusion is all because of some douche ghost user.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:32 PM ^
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December 27th, 2016 at 10:45 PM ^
Ya i'm not sure about that either. I guess the people ranked around him have huge outliers in their rankings to bring down their composite. His are starting to be pretty close. #26, #34, #35 (scout does all DEs together so I just assumed half sde and half wde) with 247 being the outlier at #42 WDE.
December 28th, 2016 at 2:48 AM ^
Low variance yields higher than expected composite scores.
High variance pulls down composite scores.
December 28th, 2016 at 10:39 AM ^
Look at his earlier composite positional rating. It really doesn't make sense. It was worse than his worst individual ranking and much worse than at least one of them.
If 247 didn't miscalculate, then it's a good illustration of why we should scale back the weight we give their composite rankings.
December 28th, 2016 at 1:03 PM ^
I've seen it before with their composite rankings where a guy will be like the #20, 23, 31, and 29 rated defensive end according to the four services, and will be the #15 DE on the composite rankings.
It's generally pretty good for the top 100-200 players, but it gets weird the further down the list you go.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:33 PM ^
Wait isn't the composite a round up of the other websites? None of them have him moving much if at all...
December 27th, 2016 at 10:39 PM ^
December 27th, 2016 at 11:48 PM ^
since that mostly applies to guys dropping as more evals come in. Guys can usually only move up after a re-ranking and it appears that came via rivals which did move him up 6 spots positionally which could be 100-200 spots overall. The fact that the composite rankings are extremely close in the 500+ range (less than 0.02 separates Paye now from Taylor who is 891st), makes the bump in Rivals rating possible. It makes sense intuitively as well. In that range, you're getting far enough away the tail end of the distribution that there really isn't that much separating 500 from 1000.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:34 PM ^
December 28th, 2016 at 3:25 AM ^
December 27th, 2016 at 10:45 PM ^
I'll have to subscribe to 247 now.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:54 PM ^
in his rankings?
December 27th, 2016 at 11:05 PM ^
December 28th, 2016 at 2:52 AM ^
Low variance (few outliers, in particular no low outliers) raises composite scores.
High variance (rating services all over the place, i.e. low outliers) pulls down composite scores.
December 28th, 2016 at 3:34 PM ^
December 27th, 2016 at 11:13 PM ^
I bet in the next day or 2 there are more changes
December 27th, 2016 at 11:14 PM ^
December 27th, 2016 at 11:17 PM ^
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December 27th, 2016 at 11:26 PM ^
There's a lot of recruits with similar rankings in the 500-1000 range, basically because there's not a real good read on most of them. A small, consistent change in ratings can apparently move you pretty far within that range.
December 27th, 2016 at 11:29 PM ^
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December 27th, 2016 at 11:32 PM ^
I'm glad you got that off of your chest.
December 28th, 2016 at 12:08 AM ^
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December 27th, 2016 at 11:35 PM ^
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December 28th, 2016 at 1:40 AM ^
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December 28th, 2016 at 8:40 AM ^
Exactly, the whole reason that "little brother" was so effective of a jab is because it basically dismissed them. Instead we constantly talk about them and compare ourselves to them, it's kind of pathetic. When they are completely irrelevant to us then we'll have the final laugh. I get much more satisfaction looking up at reaching the heights of Bama or Ohio St.'s recruiting levels and a ton of satisfaction as we surpass schools like FSU, Clemson and others that were beating us out for kids not long ago.
December 28th, 2016 at 1:37 AM ^
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December 28th, 2016 at 8:37 AM ^
That's fair, I'm not going to argue with you about it.