Kirk Herbstreit Is Dead to Me
Kirk Herbstreit just suggested that Michigan would duck OSU two weeks from now on ESPN's Top 25 countdown show. When Rece Davis gave him an opportunity to explain what evidence he had that that might be the case, he had nothing. Zippo. Nada. He only offered that some coaches around the country are 'throwing up the white flag' when faced with opponents they cannot beat. Looked like a wanker on a barstool in Keokuk, and sounded like one, as well.
Highly irresponsible, coming from someone who styles himself a journalist; from a former OSU player on whom the onus for sportsmanship and fair play remains--on might hope--particularly strong.
What's more the guy has gotten [edited: intellectually lazy] during his confinement, and badly needs to [edited: cut all ties with his loathsome alma mater]. Ought to be censured by ESPN.
[I appreciate that the OP now understands that fat-shaming is inappropriate, as I take note of his apology further downthread. I took some um..."liberties" with my edit of the OP -rob f]
December 2nd, 2020 at 1:21 PM ^
Insert Kirk’s reasoning here. It must’ve been Covid and your frustration with college football coming through...
December 1st, 2020 at 9:41 PM ^
The chump couldn’t beat M and walked away with a 13-13 tie. Zero credibility.
December 1st, 2020 at 9:42 PM ^
Meh. He was taking a dig at Michigan then realized it was in poor taste and apologized.
Nothing Kirk Herbstreit thinks or believes will change what happens December 12th.
December 1st, 2020 at 9:47 PM ^
Are we pretending that we don't want the team to forfeit?
December 1st, 2020 at 10:07 PM ^
Exactly. Most of the comments are just mad because they know it is true.
They are offended by the insinuation yet in the next breath, admit that they hope it happens. Extreme hypocrisy.
December 2nd, 2020 at 12:47 PM ^
Fans tend to think that college teams play the games to buttress fans' egos. Even now--at this inglorious stage of human devolution--that is not the case.
December 1st, 2020 at 9:50 PM ^
I went to the attic, opened up a chest, dusted off my pearls, just so I could clutch them.
December 1st, 2020 at 9:57 PM ^
Not bothered.
December 1st, 2020 at 10:01 PM ^
Very disgraceful comment from Herbstreit. Shame on him.
December 1st, 2020 at 10:08 PM ^
One of those threads I need to just back away from before I make a fool of myself. Sheesh. Take a breath, guys.
December 1st, 2020 at 10:26 PM ^
1. He's not wrong.
2. I wouldn't blame Michigan.
3. Stop whining.
4. Get a thicker skin.
5. There is no #5.
December 1st, 2020 at 10:34 PM ^
I mean, have none of you thought of the idea of Michigan not playing the game and keeping OSU out of the playoff? (at least in theory) I saw more than a few comments about it in other posts on this site. As far as OSU alums who are analysts go, Herbstreit is probably one of the better ones. I think I read somewhere that he moved his family to Tennessee partly because people in Ohio were always giving him shit. Also, I got a little respect for him when he was one of the only analysts talking about how Michigan should be in the National Title game the year they lost on the road to #1 OSU. Then what happened? Michigan got wrecked by USC in the Rose Bowl. I don't love Herbstreit, but I don't hate him either.
December 1st, 2020 at 10:39 PM ^
??♂️ Let’s not cry over spilled milk. I’m more concerned about the on-field product instead of what Herbie said. If they played better nobody would take digs at them.
December 1st, 2020 at 10:39 PM ^
I like tacos.
December 1st, 2020 at 10:39 PM ^
Joe Germaine is dead to me.
December 1st, 2020 at 10:49 PM ^
Honest apology.
Hope we see it again on college Game Day.
At least keeps a crap UM team relevant this year per controversy and OSU needing that game.
December 1st, 2020 at 11:30 PM ^
His comments are particularly eyebrow-raising when his beloved Buckeyes had to cancel a game due to their own outbreak just days ago. If OSU ran a ship as tight as UM on the COVID front, then the UM game would be inconsequential to OSU's postseason hopes. Maybe he should direct his "concern" at Ryan Day for his lack of precautions.
But that would require him to be critical of OSU.
December 2nd, 2020 at 9:35 AM ^
Exactly which would require good reporting which he didn’t do in the first place hence the retraction after some people got to him. Also Cleveland writer Nathan Baird called it a new low in college football coronavirus conspiracy nonsense, not based on facts or player safety but nonsense.
December 1st, 2020 at 11:39 PM ^
I miss seeing the muppets
December 1st, 2020 at 11:41 PM ^
Who cares
December 1st, 2020 at 11:47 PM ^
He apologized and that takes balls and integrity. These two ingredients for manhood are in short supply now. Forgiveness and moving on is the correct thing to do. That's good enough for me. He was not wrong, however, the cancel culture of UM can just cancel the OSU game and Herbstreit so they get two victories and can celebrate with PBR over the holidays
December 2nd, 2020 at 12:03 AM ^
The thoughts they just come unbidden:
1) Could you blame Michigan for doing that?
2) He thinks so because it's precisely the kind of dick-move OSU would pull in a similar situation (see also: George Steinbrenner and Drew Henson, or the decision not to give the ball to Ezekiel Elliot, at home, in the rain, against MSU's playoff team).
3) Dang, that would be a real shame if Michigan were to have a COVID outbreak just in time to affect OSU's opportunity to play in the B1G Championship Game (again, forever and ever, dominance without end, amen).
4) This is precisely what we've come to expect from the 21st Century in general and 2020 in particular.
December 2nd, 2020 at 12:20 AM ^
Herbstreit has always been garbage. Not really newsworthy, at all.
December 2nd, 2020 at 12:25 AM ^
I hope he's right.
December 2nd, 2020 at 1:31 AM ^
As an Ohio State fan, you probably don't care for what I have to say, but nonetheless..
1. Herbstreit was wrong to say what he did, insinuating UM would duck OSU. Shouldn't have said it, particularly with no evidence.
2. I thought his apology was sincere and he's generally been a very fair analyst.
3. I dont think Harbaugh or the Michigan players want to duck the game at all, they're born competitors, they want to play football - but for those of you in the UM fanbase who DO want to cancel it just because of how your season is going or recent history - you are disrespecting The Game and yourselves with that nonsense. I don't care if OSU was on their 3rd team practice squad, The Game should always be played (unless serious medical reasons prevent it, of course).
Michigan might be an enemy in a football sense, but I carry a lot of respect for The Game. I think most other Michigan fans do too, I am close friends with many of you
December 2nd, 2020 at 6:22 AM ^
They haven’t looked enthusiastic about football since they got their mud hole stomped in by Sparty.
December 2nd, 2020 at 3:55 AM ^
I thought that doctors determined if outbreaks were to the point that games could not be played.
Is Herbstreit saying that the doctors are corrupt now too?
Were FSU doctors corrupt for not playing when everything was OK?
Or even worse . . . Clemson doctors corrupt for playing when everything was not OK?
December 2nd, 2020 at 5:19 AM ^
All of this angst and hoo-ha about Herbstreit's comments will be gone by the time the clock hits zeroes at the end of this year’s UM-OSU game because the vast majority of Michigan fans will be wishing the game hadn’t been played to begin with.
Absorbing another Tombstone-style bitch-slapping at the hands of our most hated rival is nobody's idea of fun.
December 2nd, 2020 at 11:19 AM ^
If McNamara plays, maybe we win... .seriously.... in 1969 we were the same underdog, and nobody gave us a chance.
December 2nd, 2020 at 7:48 AM ^
I think he is one of the best broadcasters on tv. He just went to the wrong school.
December 2nd, 2020 at 9:31 AM ^
user name checks out
December 2nd, 2020 at 8:55 AM ^
He tried being unbiased once and he was basically forced to leave ohio because his children were getting harassed and bullied in school.
now he only pretends to try being unbiased
December 4th, 2020 at 10:29 AM ^
Ever lived in Columbus or suburbs? It’s Hattiesberg Ms. light. Sorry Hattiesberg.
December 2nd, 2020 at 9:19 AM ^
It’s been a very tough year is a really shitty excuse for calling an entire football program a bunch of cowards on live TV
I hope Desmond Howard doesn’t just accept this mealy mouthed bullshit when he tries to apologize on Gameday this weekend
December 2nd, 2020 at 9:20 AM ^
honestly, i'm so fcking sick of just about every talking head there is. herbstreit - and bilas, come to think of it - are fine during a broadcast. not great, they're fine. fine.
but 24-hour sports and news cycles are killing us all. the void exists, and so it must be filled. people that 'deserve' our attention for three hours a week now have it for 168, and for the love of god make it stop.
i'm not 'stick to sports' guy, but we don't need to know what kirk fcking herbstreit thinks about literally anything that doesn't take place between the opening kick and the final gun. EVER.
December 4th, 2020 at 10:30 AM ^
Not crazy about either but Bilas I find really annoying. Too much of a “dandy” for me.
December 2nd, 2020 at 9:32 AM ^
Well, I have been wanting Michigan to do this since someone pointed out the possibility of OSU not getting enough games in.
At that point it was not out of fear, (it was just after Minnesota maybe) but just out of spite to deny OSU the playoffs.
So I don't think Herbstreit has to apologize to me.
December 2nd, 2020 at 11:17 AM ^
Normally I'm not petty, but this I wouldn't mind, to make up for having OSU fans as refs in the game, and that bogus call.. THAT WAS BULLSHIT.
December 2nd, 2020 at 9:48 AM ^
I don't get the outrage. Every Michigan fan on the planet has made at least one "well at least if Covid cancels the game we won't get our asses kicked" joke this year. Herbstreit just said what every one of us has been saying for months.
December 2nd, 2020 at 10:06 AM ^
Herb Kirkstreet is a buckeye all the way. Made up a source to report hiring of Les Miles before the LSU bowl game in order to sabotage it. No integrity at all. Pure buckeye supporter always on the job promoting OSU.
December 2nd, 2020 at 10:19 AM ^
The football team is easy pickings right now. This sounds like OSU's arrogant Mike Hart moment though.
Rules aren't always "fair". Bo's 11 game undefeated, no bowl team led to a post season rule change. The BCS format may not be "fair" this year but it won't be because M ducks OSU.
OSU should be more upset with the advantages of Notre Dame and the SEC ( or join them).
December 2nd, 2020 at 11:16 AM ^
Herbie regrets not playing for us... it is true... so on occasion the human condition causes one to throw us under bus, to keep things at even keel.
Another guy is Chris Speilman, who experienced parental child abuse by father, to keep him at OSU, and he wanted to play for Bo... on occasion he poked us, but for the same reason above.
December 2nd, 2020 at 11:17 AM ^
Hear me out...but just maybe, just maybe, we as a society of reasonable people should just stop making a big deal out of everything these people say, tweet, etc and realize that the main purpose of these people saying, tweeting, etc. these things is to get people upset and talk about them.
December 2nd, 2020 at 11:32 AM ^
I won't pretend like the thought hasn't crossed my mind. Canceling The Game 2020 due to COVID would spare the program further humiliation on the field, likely prevent OSU from participating in the conference champ game and CFP, and be a poetic FUCK YOU to the conference that voted to send OSU to the Rose Bowl in 1973.
December 2nd, 2020 at 3:44 PM ^
This is such a pussy attitude. Play them. If we lose who gives a shit. Take the loss like a fucking man.
December 2nd, 2020 at 11:47 AM ^
Herbstreit has proven to be a hack journalist when it comes to reporting things about Michigan. No one in the media can be trusted. Journalism is DEAD!
December 2nd, 2020 at 11:55 AM ^
as is Keith Jackson..... RIP....
December 2nd, 2020 at 12:40 PM ^
The great city of Keokuk takes umbrage to your reference sir! It is simply too good for Mr. Herbstreit.
December 2nd, 2020 at 12:59 PM ^
It just shows where he ranks the health of student-athletes and the pandemic. Somewhere after “OSU must play.”
December 2nd, 2020 at 1:45 PM ^
apparently Herbstreit wasn't wrong.