Josh Uche to Patriots at Pick 60
Nice - congrats to Uche. Patriots picking you must be a serous affirmation with their track record.
good shit.
Congrats Josh. Tear things up there with Chase!
Talk about the perfect Pats selection.
Chase/Uche lining up together on the defense.
Oh yeah!!!
Belichick really is a mad scientist. First takes a D2 player early in the second round then trades up to take a hybrid LB/DE who was a rushing specialist and should've played more
April 24th, 2020 at 10:09 PM ^
Should he have played more though?
If you look at our losses (Besides Penn State) it was due to the other team running the ball down our throats, not much Josh could do there as a ‘pass rush specialist’, to use your own words.
So maybe your argument of him playing more can be true, I just don't think it would've changed anything in the wins / losses.
April 24th, 2020 at 10:46 PM ^
He's a 2nd round NFL talent, arguably better than that because of his limited exposure. He should've been on the field as much as possible. Another failure by Don Brown.
April 24th, 2020 at 11:02 PM ^
Failure of Don Brown to even recruit this 3-star to the team.
I guess he could've started over Kwity and Chase at WD, or played in Glasgow's spot and covered RB's all game.
*I was a big fan of his tape out of high school. Told him he'd be the next Jevon Kearse back then.
April 24th, 2020 at 11:07 PM ^
You're damn right I'd rather have him in the game over Jordan Glasgow. He's our most talented defensive player and he spent half the snaps on the sideline. You don't see that at programs that actually win things.
April 24th, 2020 at 11:34 PM ^
Absolutely correct 100% sir. Don Brown is not very good despite the media rave he gets in the Big East. He would exposed and ripped in one half in the SEC just like Alabama did to him. If Harbaugh can go out and hire Gattis then he can do the same at DC sending Brown back to the Cape. Maybe just maybe a new DC would be recruiting Ohio as well where out LAST great DL gave from (2016 DL) coached by Mattison of course.
Yeah, but he was a 3-star, so it doesn’t count.
April 24th, 2020 at 10:12 PM ^
Lol. Good thing they hid that diamond.
Guess that means I’m gonna have to keep liking the Pats, at least a bit.
Winovich wasn't enough?
April 24th, 2020 at 10:36 PM ^
I root for individual guys. But the Pats D is now something actually worth flipping a channel for.
nice, gonna still have to root for Patriots, plus TB, and the Steelers (Bush is one of my favorites since Dennard)
oh yea, that's all supplemental to the Lions of course
He was just too good to see only 60% of snaps...
April 24th, 2020 at 10:03 PM ^
Uche is pretty good too.
Great organization knows talent. And to think he was a part time player at Michigan. And a couple picks later AJ Dillon is taken.
It all makes sense now, Michigan is raiding Massachusetts for talent and then the Patriots raid Michigan for their talent.
April 24th, 2020 at 10:28 PM ^
It's like RISK.
Their 2nd Michigan pass rusher in two years. Congrats!
April 24th, 2020 at 10:10 PM ^
It's been cool to hear every NFL guy talk about Uche and saying "Idk why he didn't play more at Michigan".
Makes me feel good about what we're doing.
April 24th, 2020 at 10:17 PM ^
Actually I view it as the opposite as if the coaches were clueless.
April 24th, 2020 at 10:22 PM ^
Whoooosh
April 24th, 2020 at 10:44 PM ^
Isn’t that interesting.
Seems pretty simple to me. Uche was a guy that Michigan preferred too remove from the field in certain personnel situations. So, as an opposing coach, which matchup would you prefer to exploit: passing with a high draft pick coming off the edge, or running over a DT platoon that had overmatched guys playing out of position?
The staff deserves all the blame in the world for the issues at DT last season, but given that we had those issues and given that the offense didn’t stake the team to the leads in big games that would force opposing offenses to gamble on facing Uche, not much else we could expect there.
April 24th, 2020 at 11:06 PM ^
Sooo ya, makes me feel great about what we're doing.
April 24th, 2020 at 11:39 PM ^
This is one of those areas where the bigger, more simplistic picture can be better than an imperfect smaller picture.
Big picture: Michigan got blown out by OSU twice in a row. The coaches are the ones ultimately responsible. It’s on them. This is a basically accurate big picture take.
Imperfect smaller picture: someone thinks they know more than they do, sees OSU hang a bunch of points, says “Don Brown is a bad schematic coach/doesn’t make adjustments/should have played player x.” Requires specialized knowledge often not present in the one making the accusation. Often readily disprovable, which nullifies the argument made because the argument was over its skis.
Your basic premise, phrased sarcastically: “we had a 2nd-round draft pick and he didn’t factor in big games in which Michigan lost badly, makes me feel good about the future.” This is totally valid (as a sarcastic statement). Because Michigan had talent and it wasn’t well utilized.
Where it can break down, and this isn’t so much your issue as others (I think you mention it but obliquely) is when people think the answer is “play Uche more” without considering the context. Because then the logical solution would be to hire a DC based solely on how much he would play Josh Uche in those games, even though succeeding at the job is much more complex than that.
Ultimately, Josh Uche’s utilization is a symptom, not a cause. Like a cough during the pandemic, a symptom alone doesn’t mean anything, but it worries you. What matters is the result of the test.
The tests take place the last game of the season. They haven’t gone well.
Doesn’t make me feel good about the direction of the team, either.
April 24th, 2020 at 10:29 PM ^
Congrats Josh and good luck in the NFL!
April 24th, 2020 at 11:03 PM ^
I wish one NFL team would just draft all the UM players so I could watch them. Parts defense will be fun to watch with Uche and Wino
Hot Take: Uche will be the best Michigan player in the NFL from here on out (Post Brady)
that's Bush, then Winovich
April 24th, 2020 at 11:10 PM ^
Congrats Josh hope you and Chase keep up the pressures on Sunday. To a long fulfilling career.
April 24th, 2020 at 11:29 PM ^
Congratulations to a young man that fought to see playing time and when he deserved to play then he was used sparingly (13 snaps against OSU). Michigan has had 1 player in the first round and 1 player in the 2nd round. Also, they are not developed well. This is why Michigan fights to win 8 games each year. Recruiting, recruiting, recruiting and THEN player development which is highly suspect in Ann Arbor. Playing time given to those who "work hard" instead of those who can make a difference like Uche only playing 13 snaps against OSU!!
April 24th, 2020 at 11:33 PM ^
Cry more.
April 24th, 2020 at 11:36 PM ^
Congrats! you win the Friday night Dickhead award! Make sure you turn the lights off in your parents garage tonight when heading to bed tonight.
April 24th, 2020 at 11:37 PM ^
Calm down, young lady. Perhaps stick to making TikTok videos?
April 25th, 2020 at 12:05 AM ^
Just curious, how many snaps did Uche have against OSU?
Uche should have been on the field more. Good teams don't have their best athletes on the sidelines.
What next, Don Brown joins the Pats staff? Guess Kwity is next up in Foxboro in 2021.
I love to see Uche & Winovich on the same team and would like nothing more to see them on the field together, but I can't help but wonder if Uche will take away from Winovich's snaps. Don't they basically play the same role?
Why is so hard for people to understand that Uche was a pass rush specialist, i.e. explicitly someone you don’t want on the field for every snap? Great player, but he has limitations that the rest of the defense lacked the personnel to paper over in many situations. He started to be more versatile at the end of his career, and his snaps went up, but that was a process. Sitting Uche was not the reason we lost to OSU and playing him more would not have helped, because we got beat by stuff that Uche would not have been better at stopping.