Involved vs. Committed - Are you the Chicken or the Pig?

Submitted by HAIL 2 VICTORS on July 31st, 2023 at 4:13 PM

I am in it to win it people! 

The agony of losing $100 is far greater to me then the thrill of winning $800 but...

WHO HAS IT BETTER THEN US?  

rob f

July 31st, 2023 at 6:21 PM ^

Looking forward (after seeing the OP title) to a discussion on George Orwell's Animal Farm, or that maybe the thread was a farm discussion posted by XM, I clicked...

J. Redux

August 1st, 2023 at 3:26 AM ^

Unfortunately, I immediately recognized the parable of the pig and the chicken.  You see, there was a pig and a chicken, and they wanted to start a restaurant.  They were trying to figure out what their main dish should be.  The chicken comes up with "Ham and Eggs."  The pig demurs -- "Then you'd be involved, but I'd be committed."

I'm sure it predates this, but I first heard it nearly 20 years ago during training for the newfangled (at the time) Agile software development methodology.  It was presented as a mechanism for figuring out who should be in what meetings (some meetings would have "pigs and chickens" and others would be "pigs only," essentially).

I found it extremely infantilizing. :) Actually, most of Agile is extremely patronizing.  It basically boils down to "you stupid engineers don't know how to build software, but with just the right amount of Agile Magic™, you'll all be replaceable parts and your projects will run smoothly."  And then, sotto voce, "Oh, and by the way, one of the core tenets is that you never plan specific deliverables more than one 'sprint' (project planning cycle, generally 2-4 weeks) in advance, because requirements change.  So very few companies will actually implement this the way we recommend, meaning that when it doesn't work, we blame them for Not Being Agile Enough.™"

In case I haven't made my point yet, it was apparently invented by somebody who thinks the best way to run a marathon is as a series of sprints.

DrAwkward

August 1st, 2023 at 7:42 AM ^

I'm with you: The whole involved chicken and committed pig thing is kinda stupid.  To be committed, the pig has to die.  Against its will.  How is that a model for a good and creative employee?  The chicken, on the other hand, pecks and forages and does other chicken things.  And then it drops lots of tasty eggs.  Chickens are model employees; pigs are dead.

I mean, bacon is delicious, but porky's employment track record is otherwise unimpressive.