Clarence Boddicker

October 17th, 2019 at 4:52 PM ^

All the money Holgorsen makes and he still looks like a hobo who just rolled into town on a CP freighter. And yeah--how the fuck does tanking help you in college football? How do players get better by NOT playing when they were starters? Lay off the bottle, Dana...

 

 

ndekett

October 17th, 2019 at 5:17 PM ^

I saw one of his players on Twitter a week or so ago lamenting how he was not one of those asked to take the redshirt. This is a problem. If players were just inhuman pawns to jockey around, maybe this strategy works, but this is brutally unfair to the guys spilling their guts out to play football at the highest level they'll ever achieve in their lives. They will not get these games back. Their coach doesn't give a shit and wants to throw all that away to increase their chance of making the playoffs from 0.05% to 0.1%. It's shortsighted and cruel. High School kids will obviously notice this behavior and not look at it favorably.

Junior18

October 18th, 2019 at 2:50 AM ^

Outstanding point. How do you look a player in the eye you've basically told isn't talented or valued enough to "save" for next year when you're actually going to try to win and ask him to go out and give his all when you've overtly sabotaged any chance of being successful? 

I used to like Holgorsen, only because it was amusing watching a guy that looks like he's on a week-long bender trying to coach football, but this is pathetic and classless. Hopefully recruits (and parents) see the value he actually places on his players. 

Mr Miggle

October 17th, 2019 at 5:38 PM ^

It's a novel approach in CFB and not one I expect to go over well. I just wonder if schools will start adding tanking into the firing for cause clauses in new contracts?

A Lot of Milk

October 17th, 2019 at 5:51 PM ^

And what happens when they suck again next year? This will destroy their recruiting (assuming they have any?) Would be shocked if Holgorsen is there in the next two years

reshp1

October 17th, 2019 at 6:01 PM ^

This seems like it would hurt recruiting, no? They basically move their roster back one recruiting year so the incoming kids will have tons of overlap and probably a longer path to the field.

Sleepy

October 17th, 2019 at 6:30 PM ^

My buddies & I used to do this all the time back in NCAA '08 (last year we played).

Roster Management 101 involved redshirting anyone that didn't already have one during Year 1 of Dynasty Mode.  Took a minor hit Year 1, but your roster would get a major boost during Year 2.

Perkis-Size Me

October 17th, 2019 at 6:57 PM ^

I honestly don't see much of a point in tanking in college. There is no draft, and doing bad one year puts you even further behind the 8-ball for recruiting next year. Even if your guys take a RS, they still get a year older, still prone to injury, still out of the game for that span of time, etc.

It's not like the NFL where tanking gets you closer to the #1 overall pick. College is a perfect example ever year of the rich get richer (i.e. winning usually begets more winning) and the poor get poorer (i.e. losing usually begets more losing).

UM Fan from Sydney

October 17th, 2019 at 7:21 PM ^

Of course they are. If I’m a senior not asked to do that, I’d be pissed. This would be my last season and my teammates are holding out for next year. That’s a bitch ass move.

DoubleB

October 17th, 2019 at 9:05 PM ^

If anyone wants to know why the NCAA rulebook is nearly 300 pages and has odd rules that punish a coach for giving a kid a sandwich need only look at Dana Holgorsen and this spectacle. He decided to use the new 4 game redshirt rule which is very well intentioned to benefit players and bastardize it after an embarrassing loss to Tulane to get a do-over for the season.

The NCAA has its issues but a hell of a lot of it has to do with coaches who take rules for the benefit of the players and make it instead for the benefit of themselves.

JDeanAuthor

October 18th, 2019 at 9:02 PM ^

Hoke did something that was a bit different at San Diego State but was motivated by the same idea: he sat his more experienced players his first year in favor of playing the young guys and recruits more, knowing full well that they would be the ones carrying the team from then on.

It did improve them to a winning season the next year. 

As far as Holgorson, he reminds me of his mentor Mike Leach: as off the wall as they come, and can be way off in many ways, but when they happen to be right, they happen to be REALLY right.

BasementDweller2018

October 19th, 2019 at 12:38 AM ^

I'm sure all the other seniors love the idea. 

I have no idea what college football is going to look like in 20 years but it's not going to be the same. One thing I'm all but certain of is there's not going to be enough quality players to field 130 D1 teams. The divide between the haves and the have-nots will continue to grow until schools stop fielding teams or they redo the divisions.

What was the question again???