Happy 15th Malice at The Palace Anniversary
My favorite part of this oral history. I recommend reading both of the pieces that Simmons links to in his tweet above.
November 19th, 2019 at 11:50 AM ^
Such a surreal experience watching that when I was 16 years old.
November 19th, 2019 at 1:27 PM ^
Ah..... Back when we had a decent basketball team.
November 19th, 2019 at 10:43 PM ^
Pretty wild night, I remember watching it on TV.
Just yesterday I watched the ESPN 30 for 30 about the Bad Boys. Excellent. Great memories of the 89 and 90 Championship team. Must see TV.
November 19th, 2019 at 11:52 AM ^
And thus was born the irony of Meta World Peace.
November 19th, 2019 at 12:04 PM ^
Can't believe I was 15 rows up.....and left with a few minutes to go because the Pistons were losing by so much. We got back in the car and turned the radio on to hear the final score, except we were greeted with something completely different. Not much I could do as a 16 year old going with my buddy's dad who wanted to beat traffic, but I do regret that one.......
November 19th, 2019 at 5:17 PM ^
Oh man. I missed exactly one home game between 1978 and 1982--which happened to be the 1979 Indiana game won on the last play by Wangler to Carter.
November 19th, 2019 at 12:08 PM ^
A lot of people forget that Artest had really turned into a great all-around player during the start of that season. Now he was chipping in 20 points to go along with his defense, and the Pacers looked like they were the team to beat in the east. Still one of the worst things I've witnessed at a sporting event.
The 'Malice' was the first thing I thought of while watching the whole Rudolph-Garrett-et al situation last Thursday. Seeing that unfold it gave me stark memories of that night in Auburn Hills.
November 19th, 2019 at 12:30 PM ^
Indiana had a really good team that seemed destined to win an NBA title in the next couple of years. That brawl changed the trajectory of their franchise.
November 19th, 2019 at 1:07 PM ^
Yep - they took the bait.
November 19th, 2019 at 8:04 PM ^
They looked like they were on the way to win the title that year. They were built to beat Detroit and San Antonio and were crushing Detroit at home. Ben Wallace saved the season that night lol.
November 19th, 2019 at 12:16 PM ^
And to think, I turned that game off with a few minutes to go when it looked like Indiana was going to win. Whoops.
November 19th, 2019 at 8:15 PM ^
I had a feeling something was going to go down. Artest broke Jordan's ribs in a practice several years earlier on a hard foul. Word was he was unstable so Chicago sent him packing.
And Artest was talking shit late in the Detroit game. Dennis Rodman post-Detroit came to mind. There was some chirping and a hard fouls in the 4th quarter from both teams. I was waiting for some fireworks. I didn't know it was going to be a nuclear explosion.
November 19th, 2019 at 12:53 PM ^
Mason Rudolph must have instigated this
November 19th, 2019 at 12:57 PM ^
Let he who is without sin, cast the first beer!
November 19th, 2019 at 1:01 PM ^
As a Pacers fan, November 19 is the worst sports day for me. That 04-05 Pacers team was destined to win the championship, until not.
November 19th, 2019 at 2:28 PM ^
If only Artest had just let that Diet Coke roll off his front and taken the W....
November 19th, 2019 at 2:54 PM ^
The single most amazing thing about the whole fiasco was the uncanny accuracy of that cup toss.
November 19th, 2019 at 11:04 PM ^
Ron Artest is the last person you want to piss off and the fan did the dumb thing by throwing the cup at him.
November 19th, 2019 at 8:21 PM ^
Yeah, until that happened, nobody in the league looked like they could stop the Pacers. They were balanced on offense and defense. And they had a deep bench. They had that swagger of an NBA Championship team.
November 19th, 2019 at 1:28 PM ^
I was at that game - my then GF got free tickets from her employer.
We left in the early 4th Quarter. Wanted to beat traffic.
I didn't know what we missed until the next day. I went for a run around 11 AM and stopped at a 7/11 to pick up a couple things for the day of watching college football. The big 24-point headlines on the newspapers were ........ stunning.
November 19th, 2019 at 1:31 PM ^
You made the right move.
Palace traffic was a nightmare.
November 19th, 2019 at 1:47 PM ^
I would always take some convoluted back way out (make sure to park near the Harmon Road exit, then take Harmon eventually to Joslyn and get on I-75 south there) ....... but yeah, it was awful. Definitely the biggest problem with that place.
November 19th, 2019 at 1:41 PM ^
I was 5 rows up. Craziest shit I have ever seen in person.
November 19th, 2019 at 2:06 PM ^
Seems like only yesterday I was sitting on my couch taking bong rips and watching that.
November 19th, 2019 at 2:23 PM ^
Remains my claim to fame in terms of "historic" in-person sports experiences, more so than Michigan classics such as the Braylon Game, Under the Lights I, Driesbach-to-Hayes, Henne-to-Manningham, etc.
What I remember most is the pain-in-the-ass Pacers fans sitting behind us... I have no idea why we stayed until the end but it was worth it just to see those guys end up despondent and beside themselves in a game they won.
Seeing Artest run into the crowd was the first moment we had a reason to get on our feet all game. It was glorious. It was one of maybe 3 Pistons games I attended in my life.
November 19th, 2019 at 3:51 PM ^
I was there. Oh the memories.
November 19th, 2019 at 4:02 PM ^
I attended soooo many Pistons games from '00-'05. I don't remember how many, but notable games of the division and conference championship series clinching games of '03 vs the Nets and Pacers - both of those games were just absolutely wild, so many stories from those two alone. Fights breaking out in front of us where a guy got thrown about 4 rows down. These two very beautiful ladies that (at the time) 19ish year old me had "sit" with us because they couldn't find their seats. The craziness after the game in the parking lot. A dude and girl fight where they both exchanged blows like a '90's action film. Finding a giant sack of dope someone dropped in a stall at a Burger King by the Palace. So many good memories.
But, I would trade those games for being at this one and being able to witness that in person.
November 19th, 2019 at 5:10 PM ^
I turned down tickets to this game because of another commitment. Damnit.
November 19th, 2019 at 5:20 PM ^
I was watching at a Hooters in Asheville N.C. I left a few minutes before the end thinking it was over. Got a text from my friend the next day saying "Oh Man! I can't believe you missed it!"
November 19th, 2019 at 7:24 PM ^
My folks and brother traveled all day from Anchorage, AK to visit family down in Tecumseh for Turkey Day. Bought tix for the game a month in advance, and boy did they get their money's worth!
November 19th, 2019 at 9:58 PM ^
I miss the palace