Good Post Game Analysis by Joel Klatt
September 8th, 2019 at 6:44 AM ^
Convinced Gattis got ranked by Harbaugh when adversity hit. Nothing else explains the sudden dinosaur nonsense we saw in the 2nd half.
Talk about a way to compound a problem. The offense should solve their issues with aggression. Take a page out of the Brown playbook.
September 8th, 2019 at 7:16 AM ^
Kind of worries me that Harbaugh did seem to takeover playcalling duties. Having to constantly look over your shoulder and fear your boss taking over your job probably isn’t the greatest thing for a young, first time coordinator.
September 8th, 2019 at 7:28 AM ^
I think so as well. If this is Gattis actually calling the plays then we’re screwed.
September 8th, 2019 at 8:04 AM ^
If you think Harbaugh doesn't have final call on all offensive plays you are crazy and naive in my opinion. No way Jim Harbaugh is letting A young former Wake Forrest DB call plays for his Michigan team. I believe Gattis has heavy input and makes suggestions.
September 8th, 2019 at 8:31 AM ^
Not sure why you'd bring in the Wake Forest (one R) DB as an issue. Wake Forest won the ACC Gattis' senior year, so he knows how to win with less talent.
RR was a young West Virginia DB and knows how to coach offense.
September 8th, 2019 at 9:19 AM ^
Wake Forest has won the ACC more recently than Michigsn has won the B1G. Let that sink in.
September 8th, 2019 at 12:23 PM ^
Ugh, I’d rather not...
September 8th, 2019 at 9:59 AM ^
Did you watch the coach cam video? How do you propose he was calling said plays?
September 8th, 2019 at 12:09 PM ^
THANK YOU!
September 11th, 2019 at 4:29 PM ^
What is it that people don't understand?
It's very likely things are deliberately held back to save for the regular season...sure, it got away from them, and they didn't execute well vs a very disciplined Army team, and the playcalling was influenced by Shea's injury.
If you see the same shit vs Wisconsin then I'll admit my error. But I have to think the best here.
September 8th, 2019 at 8:23 AM ^
I don't believe that's the case at all. He never has to look over his shoulder for approval as long as he's calling runs, up the middle, into a 9 man box.
It's calling that other crazy shit....passing?....that'll get him in trouble with the boss.
September 8th, 2019 at 9:46 AM ^
Why does it seem like our wide receivers can’t get open anyway when we do pass? I still get the unsettling feeling when I see our offense line up that the play is not going to work. The play looks doomed at the snap. Still, with a new OC, our offense continues to look structurally deficient. All over the country teams are going bonkers on offense with less talent. Getting a first down against Army looked like a nearly impossible task for us. I just don’t get it.
September 8th, 2019 at 10:13 AM ^
This is my question as well. Every play Michigan runs looks really difficult and seems to take forever. I refuse to believe that on any given play against Army’s D backs, Nico, Black, or Bell weren’t open on a short route for 5 or 6 yards.
September 8th, 2019 at 12:22 PM ^
I don’t understand it either. Every year it’s the same thing. Why couldn’t UM take advantage of their bigger receivers against smaller Army DBs? Are the UM receivers overrated? The entire game UM’s receivers were blanketed by Army DBs.
September 8th, 2019 at 8:45 AM ^
That coordinator needs to get his offense to stop turning the ball over if he wants autonomy.
September 8th, 2019 at 2:54 PM ^
I agree.
Not counting the end of the half drive, 3 out of 4 drives ended in turnovers. 75% of offensive drives ended in fumbles. And we’re only down 14-7.
I think Harbaugh made the decision at half we were not going to lose this game because the offense continued to screw up and turn the ball over. This game was going to be ugly and won with Don Browns defense in the second half, and the offense’s job was to not make things hard on the defense.
September 8th, 2019 at 8:52 AM ^
I'm inclined to think that's the case, but we threw it 3 straight times to start 2nd OT. I don't think Harbaugh would have done that to be honest. I can't explain why Gattis would call runs up the middle on 4th downs when they weren't working, but I also can't explain why Harbaugh would supposedly call 3 straight passes.
September 8th, 2019 at 9:06 AM ^
Those 3 straight times were all incomplete.
When we mixed in runs in the 1st OT we scored a TD.
Shea was off his game. The blitzing from all different directions all day gave him the yips.
This is going to be a problem all year. Teams are going to blitz us like crazy if we don't come up with some quick-release blitz busters that our QB's can execute reliably under pressure.
September 8th, 2019 at 9:33 AM ^
I agree with that last point 1000%. Maybe McCaffrey is the better option for that due to his height
September 8th, 2019 at 9:53 AM ^
Some of this will improve when Runyan is healthy enough to play. Some of those blitzes were on Hayes.
September 8th, 2019 at 9:40 AM ^
The part that drove me nuts was when it was 3rd and 2 and the Army DBs were giving a 10 yd cushion to the slot WR. Take the damn free yards and get a first down. Instead we ran the same inside zone that had already failed 15 times in this game and shockingly failed again.
September 8th, 2019 at 8:55 AM ^
Well. If this is the case, I see Gattis gone sooner than later. The program then takes a huge step backwards.
September 8th, 2019 at 9:04 AM ^
Show of hands, who was at all surprised that Harbaugh retreated to his personal comfort zone, being the play calling OC, at the first sign of adversity?
Harbaugh may not have been technically calling the plays, but I can imagine conversations with Gattis offering up a play, Harbaugh saying he doesn't feel it. Gatiss offers an alternative play, Harbaugh says, nah, give us something else. Gattis then says give the ball to Charbonnet and let him bull through the line. Harbaugh says, now that's a plan, let's go with that.
September 8th, 2019 at 9:51 AM ^
There were a lot of people that gave a lot of reasons why Harbaugh would step to the side. This guy was not one of them. Harbaugh was always going to take over in a tight game. He can’t help it it’s who he is
September 8th, 2019 at 6:48 AM ^
Yep. He sounds as frustrated as the fan base.
It’s not an RPO if the QB has no option to run!
It’s not an RPO if the QB has no option to pass!
Reminds me of a tennis player in no-Man’s-land; either you play baseline, or go to the net. We’re trying to win with half volleys at the edge of the service box.
Add on the fact that shea is missing open receivers, and (assuming it’s not injury driven), definitely time for a QB Change where at least you have the dual option of RB run or QB run, and that may indeed open up the passing game.
Clemson switched QB’s last year mid-season, maybe time for Jim to sack up and make the change.
September 8th, 2019 at 12:05 PM ^
This offense is the exact same as last years from the gun. Still two TE’s 2 WR. Nothing’s changed. The first FUMBLE Ryan Hayes completely dwarfed on picking up a dude who was running for a solid 3 seconds before he hit the LOS. Patterson needs to hold on to the ball but damn.
STOP PLAYING SERVICE ACADEMIES.
September 8th, 2019 at 7:01 AM ^
Solid breakdown. Shea must be injured... That's my only conclusion.
September 8th, 2019 at 7:11 AM ^
Shea injury explains why he never kept the ball, his accuracy issues and (at least to some degree) his ball security issues.
But if Shea is hurt, why is he playing? Especially when you've got a backup you're comfortable enough with to give a few series to in non-garbage time against MTSU?
September 8th, 2019 at 7:13 AM ^
A backup that will gladly keep the ball on options, something Army did not defend at all.
September 8th, 2019 at 8:16 AM ^
But if Shea is hurt, why is he playing?
Either:
- An injured Patterson is better prepared than the backup McCaffrey, or
- Harbaugh has some reason to keep McCaffrey out which is not related to McCaffrey's ability to play football
If it's the first, then shame on the coaching staff for not having an adequately prepared backup QB.
If it's the latter, then it means Harbaugh is using criteria other than the best 11 men on the field, and that's a very bad sign as well.
September 8th, 2019 at 8:43 AM ^
I kept wondering if McCaffrey was being disciplined for something off field because there was zero reason to not give him a drive and let him run. Bad decision unless there was a valid reason which we will never know.
September 8th, 2019 at 8:51 AM ^
If that was the case, why would he play him at all?
September 8th, 2019 at 9:11 AM ^
That made it even more bizarre. It looks like the coaching staff has no idea what they're doing.
September 8th, 2019 at 9:17 AM ^
Patterson had to come out with his cramping injury play stoppage.
September 8th, 2019 at 12:23 PM ^
Joe Milton exists though if that was the case. He could have handed off to ZC once and been done with it.
September 8th, 2019 at 8:46 AM ^
Maybe Harbaugh has decided Shea is his guy regardless and wants to avoid a QB controversy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
September 8th, 2019 at 9:10 AM ^
If you don't give a QB playing time or hope to play, he's going into the transfer portal - plain and simple. Perfect example: OSU. Everyone of their QBs on the roster were transfers. Don't want to see that happen to us. QB depth is a concerning issue going forward with ALL CF rosters.
September 8th, 2019 at 11:27 AM ^
I think this is it. He is trying to avoid a controversy that he created by saying he would play 2QBs in all games.
September 8th, 2019 at 8:47 AM ^
It's probably number 2. McCaffrey and DPJ are smart enough to take the redshirt and get the fuck out of here.
September 8th, 2019 at 8:50 AM ^
No chance that is what DPJ is doing. Literally makes 0 sense.
September 8th, 2019 at 9:21 AM ^
I forgot to add the /s for you simpletons.
September 8th, 2019 at 8:24 AM ^
This was my biggest issue! Complete failure by either Shea or the coaching staff.
It’s on Shea if he just refuses to keep the ball on options.
It’s on the coaches if Shea was injured and they made those terrible play calls and didn’t play McCaffrey.
September 8th, 2019 at 10:24 AM ^
If Shea refuses to keep the ball, then ultimately that is on the coaches too. If he doesn't know how to keep (seems unlikely given history) then he needs to be taught. If he refuses then either accept that or move to next man.
September 8th, 2019 at 8:49 AM ^
I think the offense is thinking too much and I don’t think Harbaugh wants to compound it with a QB controversy. However, as an established Shea apologist, I will even say that yesterday was beyond alarming.
September 8th, 2019 at 10:03 AM ^
I'm with you. I'm all about giving your starter every chance to establish himself, but there was a point that this reasoning no longer made sense. I believe Harbaugh should have brought out McCaffery to start the second half, and given him the entire half barring something truly unexpected.
September 8th, 2019 at 7:20 AM ^
Klatt is one of the best in the business. I agree with Catchafire that Patterson must be injured. It was plain to see that they were not going to let him option to run the ball even he could have picked up huge chunks of yards because Army realized he wasn't going to run.
September 8th, 2019 at 12:08 PM ^
I rewatched every offensive snap.
I agree. It’s clear Patterson is injured in the rib/oblique area. It’s why he’s likely being TOLD but to keep the ball (foregoing all those yards both MTSU & Army were giving him). It also explains the inaccuracy in some of the passes, usually later in games (maybe soreness sets in by then).
Some of the stuff will be fixed once Runyan (pass protection) & DPJ (those routes where Bell was *just* a tad slower than the 3 amigos) return.
Some may never be fixed (Shea waiting too long to confirm the WRs get open in zone defenses).
Much of the call security & turnover stuff will get fixed too. It isn’t Shea throwing bad picks.
Going turtle at the end of the game also would make sense GENERALLY against Army to preserve defense (they were gassed at the end of the game) and because Army cant run a 2-3 minute drill, IF WE WERE AHEAD.
What I’m still baffled by is—once it was still a dogfight in the 4th, why not risk Shea injury & have him scamper for a score or two? Or at least have McCaffrey (who we all know is capable of pulling & running) do it?
Bottom line is, after a rewatch, it’s not nearly as bad as I felt during the game if you assume the TO/sloppy play gets cleaned up & you assume the strategy was to get Shea to the bye week to be fully healthy by Wisconsin.
What still freaks me out is the apparent willingness of the coaching staff to STICK with that plan once we were still behind in the 4th quarter.
The only reasonable thing I can think of is this:
In the grand scheme of things, they were willing to lose to Army because it’s a non conference/non rival team & Army will likely end up being ranked at the end if the year. They felt that keeping Shea & McCaffrey healthy by having them NOT pull the ball was more important to boost their ability to win the Big Ten, beat MSU/OSU/PSU/ND, than it was to risk losing one to a more serious injury just to beat Army.
September 8th, 2019 at 7:30 AM ^
At this point I’d take Milton..at least he can run. Shea can’t pass and Dylan looks like he’s regressed throwing the ball, we don’t know if Milton can pass but we know he can run.