Good Luck Michigan! IU is a mess.
Four days have elapsed since classes started at Indiana University. They already have eight COVID clusters and 20% of the Greek system is under quarantine.
MSU is starting to look smart going all online.
August 28th, 2020 at 7:21 AM ^
Sure MSU has been aggressive regarding the virus but are still helping Izzo foster and promote a culture or sexual assault against women.
August 28th, 2020 at 7:42 AM ^
O u, IU. Why u do u?
I.e., aieeeeee!
August 28th, 2020 at 8:40 AM ^
This Seinfeld scene (in it's entirety) applies to so much going on just now. Ironically poignant.
August 28th, 2020 at 8:38 AM ^
38,000 car accident deaths last year. We need to outlaw driving cars now. We sold our cars, and I will not allow my son to get his license or ride in a car.
Anyone driving a car is potentially killing me, or my family, and they should be thrown in jail.
These fucking mouth breathers are ruining everything.
We need to stay in our homes until we can be sure that nobody will ever die ever again. I honestly don't care if the fabric of our society is destroyed by design, because the government will take care of me.
August 28th, 2020 at 9:03 AM ^
You realize that the car collision mortality rate is about 10x less than that of Covid-19 and that is with all the safety precautions you would seemingly prefer we ignore. If we let this go to herd immunity and had 2 million die, you think that would be acceptable? Because I could damn sure guarantee that if we had 2M car collision deaths a year, society would take major steps to stop it.
The other big difference that makes your comparison false is that you can take steps to drive safer. Obey speed limits, wear seat belts, don't drive drunk (funny how those are all required by the government. It's almost as if a role of the government is to keep society safe...). There is nothing you can do once you have covid 19 to guarantee survival.
August 28th, 2020 at 9:32 AM ^
Couldn't care less, I bought a $200 bottle of scotch for the meltdown in a few months, and I'm going to enjoy every second of it.
August 28th, 2020 at 10:05 AM ^
Still held hostage by the absolute dumbest group of human beings on the planet. I hate you so bad.
August 28th, 2020 at 8:45 PM ^
Good, I love that you hate me. It proves you haven't learned a fucking thing in 4 years. He's going to win in a landslide, and I hope you cry. I hope you drop to your knees and weep. Just remember, if you hear something, it's me laughing.
August 28th, 2020 at 9:39 AM ^
I bet a great way to decrease traffic fatalities would be if we had a national directive to mandate speeds, require restraining devices be worn by passengers, develop automatically deploying cushioning devices, and increase rigidity in car frames.
Oh, that shit already happened and the fatality rate plummeted? Who the fuck could guess that federal oversight and regulation could save so many lives?
August 28th, 2020 at 12:02 PM ^
You're so brave.
August 28th, 2020 at 8:55 AM ^
Clusters in the Greek system, who would have ever guessed that might happen?
August 28th, 2020 at 9:01 AM ^
clusters of sorority sisters..... make me feel funny inside.
August 28th, 2020 at 9:11 AM ^
Penn State is, of course, taking the head in the sand approach. 520 tests done since 8/7, 3 total positive (students only). 2 tests this week, 1 positive. Classes just started Monday.
August 28th, 2020 at 9:17 AM ^
I heard on NPR that Illinois faculty developed a test they can administer 10k a day at the university itself to test the student body to actually get a hold on it.
Over in Missouri they say testing would be too complicated and costly and are still doing in person classes.
Then you have North Carolina(everyone come to class), nm you all got covid, now go home to your families!
August 28th, 2020 at 10:01 AM ^
Correct. I have a kid at Illinois who is tested twice a week via saliva. Students are required to have an app on their phones that shows their testing status needed to enter university buildings. I assume that it also allows for contact tracing. The Illini are doing a nice job in my opinion.
August 28th, 2020 at 10:30 AM ^
But muh freedoms!!!!
Sounds like UIll has its shit together - good for them! Too bad we can't expand that idea to the entire country...
August 28th, 2020 at 9:30 AM ^
Getting it does not equal deaths, especially at the ages we're talking about. In fact, most of them won't even notice symptoms. The fatality rate for 18-24 is 0%. I would say that's one of the factors that went into having classes.
August 28th, 2020 at 11:11 AM ^
That would be a responsible way to do things, yes. But instead, shut it all down until some undefined or unattainable goal is achieved.
August 28th, 2020 at 12:17 PM ^
The over 300 people in the US younger than 24 who have died from COVID would like to say 'Fuck you, asshole!' but unfortunately they were part of that '0%' who are dead.
August 28th, 2020 at 2:18 PM ^
That's a fraction of how many that age die every year from flu. Should there no longer be a fall semester?
August 28th, 2020 at 2:58 PM ^
You said 0% fatality rate effectively trying to invalidate the existence of over 300 young dead people. I said nothing about fall semester but am just pointing out that you are a lying POS. And, since they can't say it ..... fuck you, asshole!
August 28th, 2020 at 5:30 PM ^
Tell me one lie I said you piece of shit. All I did was point out your reaction should also be your reaction during flu season when more people that age die from flu. If you really care about deaths, then care about them all, not selective deaths you fucking hypocrite. You got a problem, go fuck yourself. There's not a damn thing you can do but cry like every other one of you little bitches with your false virtue signaling. Be consistent in your fear or get the fuck out with your political virtue signalling.
August 28th, 2020 at 6:13 PM ^
I thought I was pretty clear about your lie but you want it again it is right here:
"The fatality rate for 18-24 is 0%"
The fatality rate for that age group is not 0% thus that is by definition a lie. Your attempt to paint me as anything except someone calling out your bullshit is just a continued attempt to deflect and lie.
August 28th, 2020 at 2:38 PM ^
That's 300 out of approximately 82 million people in this country under the age of 25. You can't save literally everyone from death. Covid-19 is not in the top 10 causes of death for young Americans. If all Americans' bodies responded to this virus the way young peoples' do, we wouldn't be shutting anything down.
August 28th, 2020 at 5:18 PM ^
People have completely lost their ability to contextualize anything as it relates to this thing.
August 28th, 2020 at 9:53 AM ^
I see a lot of you folks stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
August 28th, 2020 at 10:25 AM ^
Because we have 50 states doing 50 different things, it's natural that plans will be made and helmets strapped on as individual groups to their turn as crash dummies. Somebody just might succeed. Most are going to fail because this virus is so damn contagious and college age kids do what college age kids do.
None of this gives me hope that I'll be able to cross the border to my home in Canada anytime soon.
August 28th, 2020 at 10:28 AM ^
For $600 Frank Gallagher can get you there.
August 28th, 2020 at 11:41 AM ^
I was thinking I should buy at government auction one of the cocaine drug running subs the DEA has seized. They'll never expect to see that in Lake Huron!
August 28th, 2020 at 12:05 PM ^
Having Dolphins (submarine qualifications), I've spent a lot of time under water. I can tell you without hesitation to be worried about a ride in one of those drug running machines. I'm not given to fear, but those things give me the heeby-jeebies...
August 28th, 2020 at 11:04 AM ^
It's almost like moving thousands of students from different parts of the country into the same cramped quarters will lead to outbreaks of a contagious virus that spreads through aerosol droplets...
Huh. Who knew.
August 28th, 2020 at 11:08 AM ^
MSU hired a president with a medical background at the right time!
August 28th, 2020 at 11:16 AM ^
I sincerely hope that the administrators and boards that ignored the obvious and chose budgets over safety get sued into oblivion over this.
August 28th, 2020 at 11:17 AM ^
all clusters are within that system, so currently this appears to be that system issue (not a broader campus issue). Of course this can change, but no residence halls at all impacted by this carries a lot of weight.
August 28th, 2020 at 11:21 AM ^
Yeah, UM is going to look really dumb in a week or two
August 28th, 2020 at 1:55 PM ^
Good luck to my niece, to other IU students, to IU generally, and to all of us.
August 28th, 2020 at 2:23 PM ^
My son is a sophomore at the University of Illinois and I have to say they seem to really have to have their act together. They have a saliva-based test that they developed on campus that now has FDA approval. All the kids were required to download the "Safer Illinois" app and are required to be tested 2 x per week to get into any on-campus buildings. They have people stationed at the doors to enforce compliance. They are communicating regularly with the students and parents regularly via mass email and have an online dashboard that is updated daily. See the emails below as a reference. Just an overall good vibe with a real positive approach to a shitty situation for all.
Faculty, Staff and Students,
We are nearing the end of our first week of on-campus COVID-19 saliva testing, and we have received feedback about the process and ways it could be improved. Please know that we are listening to your feedback, and we appreciate your patience and understanding as we navigate a complicated process that has never been done.
Based on your feedback, we are implementing the following changes to the current process:
- For everyone who must participate in the on-campus testing program, you must be tested and receive negative results at least every four days.
- You will be in compliance and have Access Granted status for building entry from the time you receive your negative test results until 11:59 on the fourth day after you take the test.
- For example, if you test Monday, you will receive Access Granted status (in both the Safer Illinois app and the Boarding Pass options) from the time you receive a negative result until 11:59 p.m. on Friday of the same week.
- We are continuing to encourage everyone to use these two-day testing schedules to make it an easy part of a weekly routine:
- Monday and Thursday
- Tuesday and Friday
- Wednesday and Saturday
- Wednesday and Sunday
- If you are a student, we highly encourage you to choose one of the weekend schedules (Wednesday and Saturday or Wednesday and Sunday) to take advantage of shorter lines when the university is less populated. We are increasing capacity at testing sites for the weekends for your convenience.
- We are stopping all reminder emails immediately. The intention was to give more guidance, but we understand they have unintentionally led to more confusion.
- If you already have a two-day testing schedule that works for you, please continue to use it.
- If you have requested a different testing schedule than the one you originally received, please feel free to begin using it now.
- If you have not been assigned a testing schedule, please pick one of the two-day testing schedules above that works for you.
- Please understand that test results may require up to 48 hours.
- One important note about Labor Day: You will need to test on Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday to ensure compliance when regular operations resume Tuesday. Some testing sites will be open on Labor Day as well.
We are also working on a tool to check which times and locations at each testing location are least busy, so you can make the best decision about where and when to test. We will provide more information just as soon as we are able.
Please continue to check the On-Campus Testing COVID-19 Testing page on the university’s COVID-19 website as we continue to add to the FAQ section. Thank you for your diligence and continued patience as we navigate this together. If you have additional questions about this process or testing schedules, please email [email protected]. If you have questions about testing results or quarantine or isolation, please email [email protected].
Sincerely,
Mike DeLorenzo
Senior Associate Chancellor for Administration and Operations
Chair, COVID-19 Executive Steering Committee on Return to On-Campus Operations
Matthew Tomaszewski
Executive Associate Provost for Capital Planning
Vice Chair, COVID-19 Executive Steering Committee on Return to On-Campus Operations
Another note today from Chancellor.
Dear Students, Faculty and Staff,
Congratulations on your efforts this week. I hope you enter this weekend with a sense of pride that is tempered by the honest recognition that we cannot celebrate or let up now.
Thank you for wearing your face coverings, for practicing social distancing, for getting your COVID-19 tests and for responding quickly if you learned of a positive test or were contacted by our public health officials.
Thank you for showing patience and kindness as you waited to get tested or to enter your building or classroom as we continue to learn and adjust.
And thank you to the staff of our testing sites and analytical laboratory who are now processing as many as 2.7% of all the COVID-19 tests in this country on a given day. You can find campus testing data here.
As our models predicted, these first days saw our overall positivity rate remain well below that of the rest of the state even as positive tests were returned. This rapid testing, combined with the contact tracing efforts of the Champaign-Urbana Public Health District, has let us quickly help those who tested positive or have possibly been exposed to the virus find quarantine space to limit the spread.
Our rapid, comprehensive and uniquely Illinois saliva-based test and data models can give us the chance to do what so many other institutions have decided they cannot.
But it is the choices you have made and the judgment you have displayed in these first critical days that are allowing us to stay together.
As the leader of one of the few major universities in the country offering some in-person instruction, I do not exaggerate when I tell you the world is watching us. And with each day, more eyes are on us and more people are asking “Can Illinois really do this?”
Make no mistake. They are not watching because they want to see us fail.
They are watching because with each day you are giving everyone a growing sense of hope. They are holding a collective breath, and they want us to succeed.
This week you have given them every reason to put their faith in the students, faculty and staff of Illinois.
Thank you. And please, do not let up now.
Sincerely,
Robert J. Jones
Chancellor