Feds Say Shut Down To Continue Until at least 4/30 - What Are Going to Do For a Month

Submitted by xtramelanin on March 29th, 2020 at 8:14 PM

Mates,

Apparently the new fed guideline is to continue this partial shutdown until at least 4/30.   They say that we are 2 weeks from the peak, although we all know it could be further out than that.  It is difficult to imagine any state ending their actions any sooner.  If that all holds true, that means whatever hopes there might have been for a shortened time frame and back-to-work are shot. 

The looming problem is of course that although many have the ability to withstand a few weeks of a slow down, getting to a couple of months starts to be a problem for nearly everyone.  I'm a small employer and had kept my staff on at regular pay even though they're not working.  I really am not sure how I'm going to handle an extended layoff.

Tonight's questions:

1.  How are you personally going to be handling this extended shut down - What are you going to do for a month? 

2.  Whether you are an employer or an employee, what plans to you anticipate for those relationships if we are supposed to 'stay home - stay healthy' for that long?   I don't mean to be overly negative, but will your business even be able to come back?

Stay well everyone.  If we overcame wars we can overcome a virus.  It might not be fun, but we'll get'er done!

XM

 

Broken Brilliance

March 29th, 2020 at 9:52 PM ^

Halfway through renovating my basement(long overdue). Got 650 sq ft of vinyl flooring and primer on the walls done this weekend. Painting tomorrow, adding new surface to the stairs later in the week. Doing trim on the baseboards and new thresholds probably next week. Looking forward to having it done for the NFL Draft.

The news from Trump today sucks. Pretty much praying for football to remain intact. Fuck you and your grandmother if you reply to this comment with some foregone fearporn  defense mechanism pessimist bullshit. Fingers crossed.

Solecismic

March 29th, 2020 at 9:57 PM ^

At least Ohio has an excellent digital library system - far, far beyond what we had in Hamburg Township. But it's a two-month wait for Robin Cook's Outbreak. Though I did just read a Cook novel for the first time and was underwhelmed. Reading is a great escape and the supply of good (and mediocre) material never runs out.

Bluenin

March 29th, 2020 at 10:15 PM ^

Glad I bought the extra shotgun when I did!  I got tons of ammo now too.  Windycityblue is right when he said we may need them.  Desperate people do desperate things. There will be plenty of desperation soon enough.  I know there are a lot on this site who are looking at this like some kind of fun staycation, but for many of us our livelihoods are at stake and probably will be hurting soon.  

BlueMan80

March 29th, 2020 at 10:06 PM ^

I retired a few years ago, so work or a paycheck aren’t an issue, but this officially blows up our trip to Idaho and Utah to visit my daughter and go hiking in the beautiful parks out there.  We were going to finish with a few days in Vegas.  I hope the small guide company we were using and other small business can make it through to June, because no one is going to count on May as a good rescheduling date.  My weekly yoga classes will continue as Zoom video calls.  I’ll keep walking on my treadmill 5 days a week. The wife and I will just be stuck indoors and unable to do some of the things we like.  I minor sacrifice compared to what my parents experienced during the 1940s.  We’ve been doing take out a few times a week from local restaurants and we’ll keep doing that.  Don’t want these places to fail.

What I hope is that everyone’s business remains viable through all the aid legislation that has been passed and that the expanded unemployment pay gets people through this economic freeze.

 

DonBrownsMustache

March 29th, 2020 at 10:34 PM ^

I feel very fortunate that I can work at home during these times.  I normally work 2-3 days at home per week, but we have been on 100% telework for the last two weeks.  The gym is closed, so I go for a nice run every couple days.  Other than that, it’s a good time to get stuff done around the house.

WichitanWolverine

March 29th, 2020 at 10:38 PM ^

I'm a government contractor and our customer has made it very clear that we will not stop or slow down. So financially I should be ok. 

I hope the damage to non-essential workers is minimal. Really feel for you guys. Best of luck. 

Teeba

March 29th, 2020 at 10:43 PM ^

I’ve been working from home for 2 weeks. I nearly freaked out this morning when my phone reported my average screen time last week was 4 hours and 59 minutes. Then I remembered I’m using my phone for all those telecons. At least I hope that’s the reason.

My industry is one of those “essential businesses” and my company is “too big to fail.” But I wouldn’t be surprised to see one or more of our customers go out of business. 
OneWeb declared bankruptcy last week. That might help my company as they were a competitor, in a sense. I’m not happy about that, though. I’d rather beat them fair and square then have them go out of business due to the credit market freezing up.

My wife’s company is closed. Fortunately, we don’t need her income. She’ll be ensuring the boy keeps up with his schoolwork from home.

 I’m most worried about my 78 year old mother who lives alone. She’s a people person (sings in the choir, volunteers, plays cards with the ladies.) 2 weeks isolation has been tough on her. Another month is going to be tough. There’s only so much you can get out of a phone call or FaceTime.

Bi11McGi11

March 29th, 2020 at 10:45 PM ^

1. I will be WFH, unless something changes with my company.

2. I work for a large company (15,000+ employees) that has been deemed essential because of what we produce. I SHOULD be secure for awhile, but you never know. I do know the company has little-to-no debt, is privately held, and has been around for 50+ years. My wife works in insurance, which is thankfully fairly secure, but you never know what can happen there either. At this moment though we are blessed and we remind ourselves everyday.

1WhoStayed

March 29th, 2020 at 10:45 PM ^

XM - Thanks for the topic.

1) Wife/I are both still WFH for at least the next 30 days. We had planned on a month long trip to Europe when our current contract ends. (That's obviously not going to happen.)

2) The next contract I had lined up is now a big TBD. It's for an essential company (utility) but requires lots of travel and will be delayed until things calm (way) down.

Fortunately, we've been setting money aside the last couple of years to cover the inevitable break between contracts. We had a budget outlined that would cover us through December. And that was based on unemployment of $362/pp/week. The extra $600/pp/week obviously buys us more time.

So, we're among the fortunate ones. And we'll be able to help family if needed. Also doing what we can for local restaurants.

Bluenin

March 29th, 2020 at 10:45 PM ^

Basically America is screwed.  The Dems will get their wish though.  Trump will probably be gone in November, but there will probably be hundreds of thousands of Americans dead, tens of millions unemployed and facing poverty, and an economy in a huge depression.  Congratulations, you win!!

WestQuad

March 30th, 2020 at 8:59 AM ^

A pandemic should be totally apolitical.  You look at the numbers and you act accordingly to get in front of it. To think that democrats want their parent, spouses, kids or themselves to get sick and die is ridiculous.   My elderly father is in Florida and is practicing zero social distancing because the news he watches told him it was a hoax for several weeks.  He has a pretty good chance of dying because of elected officials and news outlets viewing everything through a political lens.  ...and it doesn't have to be that way.  Mike DeWine (R) got it fairly quickly and locked shit down as did other Republican governors.

If Trump (and congress) figure out a way for the entire country to lock down at once, preventing the disease from spreading, and not bankrupt everyone he'd be a god damned hero. 

boers21

March 29th, 2020 at 10:47 PM ^

I’ll still be working. I’m a teacher at a prison in Illinois. IDOC still requires teachers to be at work to provide “Alternative Educational Opportunities”. Wife and kids are all home though, and spend most of the time baking, playing with toys, board games, and, for my school ager, doing her homework on the computer each morning. Other than that watching everything on Netflix and Amazon.

mgoblue98

March 29th, 2020 at 10:49 PM ^

I'm going to keep working because I'm in an essential service industry.

The social distancing measures are extended until 04/30, but things can change regionally and/or nationally between now and then.

scanner blue

March 29th, 2020 at 11:03 PM ^

I’m still working (my M95 mask lasted 4 days last week). The wife already used her UofM 2 weeks of paid covid leave so on to creative WFH and use up sick days.

I’m just glad our mortgage was paid off when Wilton was QBing.

Rendezvous

March 29th, 2020 at 11:12 PM ^

I'm a public school teacher, and will not feel nearly as much financial impact as most others will. And my wife is on full disability so her income shouldn't change. Of course, if she gets infected she's dead now instead of three to five years from now. We are already discussing ways that we can spend our government check to best benefit our community, because there will definitely be people in our small town who are and will be much more adversely impacted.

We just spent nearly two weeks at my 91-year-old mother-in-law's, teaching her how to handle this, and stocking her fridge and freezer with meals so that she doesn't have to go out for the next month, except to refill her dozen or more prescriptions. Because she's another one who, if she gets infected, she's dead. She's most disappointed that church (her social life) has been cancelled, and the pool where she still swims three times a week is now closed. 

Today's email from my superintendent indicates that we will probably be going to some sort of distance learning/teaching after our spring break is over, like many districts already have, so that will no doubt change my daily routine. Other than that, I am hoping to get a whole bunch of stuff done around the house: maybe organize my office even. I have gradually ramped up my exercise routine since the beginning of the year, and I hope to continue that, especially walking two to four miles each day in my neighborhood.

One thing I have done since this all started: I am wasting more time than necessary each day on reading the news and social media, even more than the time I have saved from not needing to catch up on sports news. I think soon that that will have run its course, and I will be more efficient with my time. I should have more time for reading and doing puzzles, and when the weather warms, puttering in my garden. 

All in all, I think that this shutdown will impact me less than most people, at least until someone in my family falls ill.

MichiganStan

March 29th, 2020 at 11:17 PM ^

I am ridiculously jealous of those not working for a month while getting paid. Also the people "working" from home for a month

Of course the one time the country shuts down I still have to work. Fuccccck

 

freelion

March 29th, 2020 at 11:49 PM ^

Will be working and enjoying family time. It's nice to not have to travel for business right now. I'm looking forward to it warming up so I can get some landscaping projects done around the house. I have 2 college kids and a high school kid home now so it's kind of nice except our internet is maxed out a lot. I still get out of the house once or twice a week to get groceries or odds and ends. It's really not that bad - just psychological knowing that you can't do all the things that you are too lazy to do anyway.

uminks

March 30th, 2020 at 3:06 AM ^

As an essential employee, I'm having to do a lot more work than normal, since we are keeping a skeleton staff with several employees rotating into telework. Unfortunately, I have two solid weeks before I rotate into telework for a week.

I don't see this ending on April 30th, some of the hardest hit areas will improve but much of the country is just staring their exponential curve up. Grocery stores are now the point of contagion and the ones in my town are packed with a lot of empty shelves. I think our economy is going to get trashed.

BoFan

March 30th, 2020 at 4:09 AM ^

Given the voting on here I’d say the blog has been infected with a virus.  And not from China. 
 

It seems the virus started years ago. Healthy cells multiplied at the normal rate but the virus would fake it’s way and would multiply 10 times faster than the real cells. And they call it viral. 
 

We need a stronger immune system.

Couzen Rick's

March 30th, 2020 at 5:29 AM ^

I’m more annoyed at the situation which in and of itself is a huge privilege- compared that are terrified for their livelihood. I’m WFH indefinitely.

I work in web analytics so hopefully I should be ok, either with my current employer or through another one. 

If you are fortunate currently, consider donating some money to those who are not. 

outsidethebox

March 30th, 2020 at 7:52 AM ^

I am a lucky one at this time. At 67...being retired for 5 years...financially unconcerned. A small farm to keep me physically occupied / engaged. Many immediate family members on the front lines but otherwise no changes for me at this time.

mgobaran

March 30th, 2020 at 8:29 AM ^

Definitely lucky that I'm able to work through this period. Keeps me from being stir crazy. I'm waiting for it to warm up a bit so I can do yard work (although our city suspending compost pick for a month). 

The one business owner I talked to said he will be taking out as many low interest business loans as possible to put into the stock market. 

throckman

March 30th, 2020 at 8:43 AM ^

Medical school professor here. This time of year I rarely lecture and those are now simply online. Research is more productive than usual because now it is a distraction keeping me sane. I'm lucky to have colleagues around the globe - Italy, Spain, China, Japan, South Africa, etc. My students are all over the country, too. Constant comparative data allays the anxiety. From what I'm hearing from them and reading from the experts... It is going to get much worse.

I'm hopeful my small, stand-alone medical school will be OK to resume in-person instruction as scheduled in early August. I miss my students. Most of them, anyway!

Zero employment and financial concerns. Anxious and worried about my practicing students who are now on the front lines. Anxious and worried about my elderly relatives, especially the ones back in Michigan. Anxious and worried about my sister and BIL as they are both physicians. My sister is a palliative care doc and she's on her hospital's Committe To Decide Who Gets A Ventilator.

COVID-19 is making our nation's societal inequalities blindingly apparent. It will be fascinating to watch how COVID-19 changes societies around the world. And how it doesn't change them.

For perspective, about 60,000 Americans died during the Vietnam War and about 400,000 Americans died in WWII. When Fauci said COVID-19 could kill 100,000 Americans, he was reporting a reasonable estimate that is optimistic. 

I hope more than anything else our society realizes that supporting and heeding its experts could have prevented this virus from becoming a pandemic. America is too hostile to and disdainful of science, and this is the consequence.

Mpfnfu Ford

March 30th, 2020 at 11:03 AM ^

I am a real estate appraiser, so I am considered an essential worker. So I'm still going out to houses and doing my job. My office is in my home so when I'm not doing inspections I'm always at home doing the research and reporting elements of my job, so that's not changed. I expect a slow down in work though as I figure there's no way home sales aren't slowing down, but its usually about a month between when you sign the contract on a house and I get called out to do the appraisal, so I imagine I'll still have that kind of work through mid april or so. After that, it'll be all refinances/helocs, but I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't an uptick in those that wash out the lost purchase work.

Taking precautions with gloves and we had a few packs of masks we usually only used for homes with mold. Been reusing a mask and lysol'ing it after use so I hope it's working.

Blue Ninja

March 30th, 2020 at 2:01 PM ^

I'm a staff pastor at our church here in South Carolina. We've been working from home since last week but we've been talking about either going back into the office or having rotating staff in the office. This of course has greatly impacted doing our church services, we had already been doing live streaming before this all started so we were ahead of that curve but now we are challenged because we are holding basically drive-in church service like we are at a drive-in theatre. Our challenge now is setting up equipment outside, feel like a mobile church now. But this is also South Carolina and come April its going to start getting warm, it was about 90 yesterday.

Another challenge we have is staying connected to our people. So we have taken to calling and checking on our congregation which no small feat as there are somewhere around 250-300 families in the church and only 5 staff members. Our normal ministering to people as they go to have operations or staying in the hospital, or counseling them on spiritual matters are all gone out the window. So its been quite the challenge to stay connected, continue holding services and minister to our congregation.