FBI getting involved with Matt Weiss.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:11 PM ^
Sure, why not.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:23 PM ^
This is simply ESPN trolling for clicks. The FBI has been involved in this investigation for months.
The ESPN story also unsurprisingly buries the lede in the last paragraph that there is no relationship between Weiss and the signals story.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:25 PM ^
Perception is what matters right now. Not facts.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:39 PM ^
Matters for your feelings but nothing else.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:45 PM ^
I guess this means that if there really is a PR campaign, they don't have any more real info?
October 26th, 2023 at 6:50 PM ^
I hardly ever watch ESPN but their journalism, if we can call that, is awful. I sure hope good games don't show up on that channel.
October 26th, 2023 at 7:54 PM ^
You can’t know there is no relationship between the two stories, it would be surprising if they weren’t. You don’t think Weiss would rat out the school that fired him? The FBI investigating him makes it more likely, not less likely, that it is related. Tattoo-gate started over an investigation into a business, the players trading their trinkets for tattoos was unrelated to the original investigation.
October 26th, 2023 at 8:23 PM ^
I mean, you could just read the last paragraph of the story where a police spokesperson says that the two stories are unrelated.
October 27th, 2023 at 1:02 PM ^
Yes, that’s what they said. Several years ago they also said the investigation into a small local business was not related to exchanging personal trinkets for tattoos. It was an unintended byproduct of the original investigation. Do you honestly believe OSU hired a PI and Michigan just willingly gave them access to their computers?
If OSU is involved it will only be if the rumors of Michigan trying to hack into their practice film are true.
October 26th, 2023 at 9:48 PM ^
Buckeye trolls feeling compelled to chime in is becoming a habit. In what world do you think anyone here cares about your opinion?
Run back to 11worriers, you have more in common with them...
October 26th, 2023 at 6:42 PM ^
This is super old information - it was public information back in February. It has been discussed extensively. No clue why it is coming up now other than social media frenzy.
So did 11 Warriors and RCMB, they have used the FBI investigation against Michigan for months.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:13 PM ^
What is the absolute f….
What is happening!?!?!
October 26th, 2023 at 6:21 PM ^
The FBI is getting involved with Matt Weiss. Did you even read the OP???
October 26th, 2023 at 6:22 PM ^
Oh… THAT Matt Weiss.
Ok, that makes sense.
October 26th, 2023 at 8:56 PM ^
Next thing you know we'll hear that the football team stretched too much under Rich Rod and Chris Webber may have lied under oath.
WhEn WiLl It EnD??!!?!??!!!?
October 26th, 2023 at 8:05 PM ^
Adam Rittenberg is trolling for clicks. That's what's going on. This story is not about a new announcement or a break in the case. It is about Rittenberg asking if the FBI was still involved, and UM's Deputy Chief of Campus police confoirming that it was, indeed, still involved.
Note the wording:
Deputy chief Melissa Overton confirmed the FBI's involvement to ESPN on Thursday, adding that the investigation is "extensive, ongoing and is of the utmost priority," and covers multiple states.
Note how the reader is left with the impression that Melissa Overton (not otherwise identified) is with the FBI. Note that she is merely confirming the FBI's involvement, not announcing it. Note that Rittenberg hides the fact that the case is "extensive, ongoing and is of the utmost priority" TO THE CAMPUS POLICE, not to the FBI.
Then note how, in the first paragraph, Rittenberg writes that the FBI "has joined" the case but doesn't actually say how he discovered this (because he can't, because the FBI joining the case happened months ago).
Shit journalism.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:13 PM ^
God, I was on pins and needles waiting for someone to post this story.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:14 PM ^
I said this in another thread. This is a shit show and why can’t we just get back to a good season with a bunch of wins?
October 26th, 2023 at 6:16 PM ^
I mean, we fired Weiss back in freaking February and this is a different matter entirely from the current paper tiger, so quit whining.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:15 PM ^
I thought there was a chance the alphabet boys were around...I could smell them.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:15 PM ^
Bye weeks suck.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:16 PM ^
Though it's interesting that Weiss has yet to be arrested. Seems unusual for such a long running multi-jurisdictional investigation.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:16 PM ^
Can you imagine the scrutiny we would be under if we dominated recruiting? Imagine all the "investigations" if we werent the composite average 12 to 14th best team. Hell our school lead in recruiting in one sport for one year (fab 5) and got nuked to oblivion. Maybe Jim recruits under the radar guys for a reason.
Honest question but if we were ranked 20th with 2 losses right now would they of sat on all this shit until "needed"?
October 26th, 2023 at 6:25 PM ^
Nah, being shitty doesn't stop MSU from getting headlines for their various scandals.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:31 PM ^
Yeah well our AD isnt hocking his shit on facebook marketplace to raise funds to start a smear campaign against them either.
This isnt Harbaugh giving himself the business while on the phone with a SA victim.
This is a coordinated attack with just the right combo of a dipshit AD and a bloodthirsty NCAA thrown in there.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:17 PM ^
It’s funny how the msu and UM seasons have gone. Shit team and program like msu is pretty likely getting urban as next coach and the wonderful season we’re having will see us getting rid of Jim bc of some nonsense shit. What a joke
October 26th, 2023 at 6:18 PM ^
Can you get a grip? Touch grass.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:21 PM ^
sparty getting urban? be serious. that is a hole too deep even for that bottom-dweller, not to mention at some point someone in the administration is going to steer them to hire their football version of brian ellerbe to calm the waters and right the sexual assault ship.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:28 PM ^
He’s been there twice. I think it’s possible. I think he is washed up though and I don’t think even he can right that ship.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:57 PM ^
Are we 100% sure Urban has been in East Lansing or is all that just based off of Bernie Frattos best mole and BS flight tracking? Any real evidence?
October 26th, 2023 at 6:31 PM ^
I mean there’s some smoke. He now refers to us as “the rival school” and he’s been there twice now so yea I wouldn’t be totally dismissive…
October 26th, 2023 at 6:54 PM ^
there is no smoke. he has been saying 'rival' ever since his time at ohio, won't call us michigan, etc. he is a snake, but not a dumb snake. when put on equal footing in the NFL he got his head handed to him. when he can cheat, he is good at that. with NIL and always being second fiddle to our school, he's not going to sparty even if they offered him $15MM/yr, assuming they have alums that are stupid enough to do that for a second time.
October 27th, 2023 at 5:25 AM ^
The only time he's been to MSU is when he was coaching for OSU and for Big Noon games. He has not interviewed for the job. He doesn't take jobs like that anyway
October 26th, 2023 at 6:22 PM ^
Lol. They are not getting Urban Meyer.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:23 PM ^
You sir are miserable. Keep that closer to you.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:35 PM ^
You're as naive and dumb as the posters on RCMB.
Hit the portal...they'll be thrilled to have you on board.
Edit: Please take Tru Stage with you to RCMB
October 26th, 2023 at 6:17 PM ^
Before we get all hot and bothered...
The FBI has been working with the University of Michigan police department “for months” to investigate computer crimes committed by former Wolverines offensive coordinator Matt Weiss, the Detroit Free Press’ Tony Garcia reported Thursday. The university fired Weiss in January after a criminal investigation started.
This is not a new development.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:38 PM ^
And yet, people continue to click
October 26th, 2023 at 6:58 PM ^
Michigan is such an easy punching bag right now for shitty journalists who only care about clicks.
October 26th, 2023 at 8:00 PM ^
Damn you and your fully researched truth and common sense!
October 26th, 2023 at 6:19 PM ^
But that's more about Weiss himself remember "what" he was being accused of? Don't fret about was has already been started. It's useless. Remain steadfast like our young players. If they can do it, so can we!!! Michigan Wolverines stand up! Be thankful some of this is over and be strong. We will eventually be fine. The bad seeds have not taken root. You cannot change destiny!
GO BLUE
October 27th, 2023 at 8:56 AM ^
I know this is old news generally & I'm not looking to derail the thread, but can anyone tell me exactly what Weiss was accused of doing that would get the FBI's attention?
When that info came out awhile ago, every source I read was very vague about exactly what the substantive issue was that he was doing w/ the computer. I know the general thing was he had hacked into another person's university account, or was posing as some else by emailing others via that person's email account or something. But I don't recall ever reading what the substantive topic was about that caused him to be basically turbo fired & then investigated by the FBI.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:20 PM ^
Been going on for months and is unrelated to Signgate. So it’s probably bad for Matt Weiss, but no sign it’s at all relevant to the program.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:21 PM ^
Double post
October 26th, 2023 at 6:23 PM ^
Everybody is blowing past Weiss as the most obvious internal culprit for "sign gate."
I think there's a decent chance this was at least known inside Schembechler Hall and Weiss helped pass the goods on.
October 26th, 2023 at 6:26 PM ^
The police specifically said it wasn't related.
October 26th, 2023 at 8:20 PM ^
Well, not to cast more fuel on the flames, but one could imagine a scenario where the two cases would be unrelated, but someone connected with the case--say Weiss himself--knew about the other and offered up info. Weiss himself, just to conjecture wildly, could himself offer up the knowledge to curry favor in his own case. Not remotely suggesting this is true, but just examining the logic of the assertion.
October 26th, 2023 at 8:34 PM ^
You think a person being charged with an actual crime and investigated by the FBI can “plea down” actual criminal charges with info about Level 2 NCAA violations?
October 26th, 2023 at 8:48 PM ^
Okay, not sure why you seized on that piece of it when my point is that the Weiss deal and Stalions mess could be unrelated but someone connected with the Weiss story knew about Stalions and whispered about it to someone. That's all I was saying.