January 24th, 2024 at 7:10 PM ^
He didnt run Harbaugh out of town stop this crap
January 24th, 2024 at 7:11 PM ^
He also didn't do everything he could to support him.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:13 PM ^
Harbaugh was going to the nfl even if Jesus was the AD. Its been something he always wanted to go back when the time was right. The time was right now. Hire Sherrone Moore and move on GO BLUE!
January 24th, 2024 at 7:14 PM ^
You're not driving a wedge between Jimmy and Jesus, pal.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:32 PM ^
Found Fr John Riccardo's account!
January 24th, 2024 at 9:32 PM ^
Love that guy. And Harbaugh. And fr. John Ricardo.
January 25th, 2024 at 7:05 AM ^
Jesus Jimmy
January 25th, 2024 at 8:10 AM ^
What the fuck did I do??
January 24th, 2024 at 7:17 PM ^
You act like this is a given. You have no idea.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:29 PM ^
None of us do. But we know Harbaugh desperately wants to win a Super Bowl and that he can't win one in Ann Arbor no matter who is the AD. And we know he told Hackett when he was hired that he wanted to return to the NFL eventually.
Smart money was always on him going back to the NFL at some point.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:42 PM ^
This was always going to happen. It was a minor miracle that Jim was available at all. It's been very clear he's the "leave something better than you found it" guy and also a guy who after reaching the mountaintop leaves to go find a bigger mountain to climb.
January 24th, 2024 at 9:49 PM ^
He isn’t winning one at LA Chargers either.
January 24th, 2024 at 8:07 PM ^
My son’s girlfriend works with the Harbaugh’s in a non football situation. There are NDAs involved, so I can’t share too much, but the whole issue is that Jim Harbaugh wants to win a Super Bowl. Period. Most of the contract nargle with U of M was about if he were to come back because he couldn’t find a NFL situation that was suitable for him; he was not coming back if a good NFL situation came up, regardless of what Michigan offered him. Not a Warde fan, but this really isn’t on him. Can confirm Jaybaugh is going; don’t know about Minter.
January 24th, 2024 at 8:21 PM ^
You do know you can share right
January 24th, 2024 at 8:24 PM ^
I don’t want to get her in trouble:). Good chance she’s going to be my daughter in law
January 24th, 2024 at 11:11 PM ^
This isn't aging well
January 25th, 2024 at 7:04 AM ^
You’re absolutely right, not aging well in light of the other threads. What’s weird is that the comments I mentioned came directly from Jaybaugh. My son’s girlfriend’s car was out of commission, so he picked her up and he had a very brief discussion with Jaybaugh. I suspect there’s a bit of disconnect between the actual truth and what’s put out there for public consumption. This discussion took place a week ago. I was reluctant to put it on Mgoblog-looks like my initial instinct was correct, albeit for reasons different than I thought.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:15 PM ^
lol this is such bullshit. Harbaugh got everything he wanted...quit babying a grown ass man who clearly felt like he accomplished everything he wanted to accomplish at Michigan.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:29 PM ^
Funny he got everything he wanted like 3 hours before he took the chargers job Warde knew he was going so he put that shit out in the media he wasn’t giving him that money or those clauses before today. It’s politics so people like you don’t look at his missteps which are vast and resounding. I’m happy for Sherrone but let’s not pretend that this doesn’t weaken the program. No one knows how he will do.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:59 PM ^
Funny how Harbaugh made a bunch of obviously super challenging to meet demands, including one that his buyout not go up until after NFL hiring season, right before he started going on interviews.
January 24th, 2024 at 8:11 PM ^
And yet, they agreed to meet them in the end. Yes? Yes.
Too little, too late, or so it very much seems.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:18 PM ^
Harbaugh has interviewed with NFL teams the last two seasons. Come on. When he was asked about it after "returning" to Michigan, he never sounded like he was here for the duration. Ever. I don't care what his words said, his tone told me otherwise. He wants to try to climb bigger mountains. Stop using Warde as a scapegoat in a situation that is clearly on Harbaugh.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:31 PM ^
And all that NFL discussion started after Warde cut his pay after a weird COVID season. It’s clear that their relationship is poor as it took Santa Ono coming in over the top to get JH’s last extension signed. And while I could be reading too much into it their body language at the championship rally was awkward at best.
But it’s true that it’s likely Harbaugh was always going to leave at some point. People have been bracing for it since the day he was hired. Maybe there was nothing he could do. Maybe winning the title gave him the perfect opportunity to leave. But I also don’t think his relationship with Warde helped at all. Very possible the moves Warde made in 2020 put him in a frame of mind that he needed to start considering his next career move, a process that ended today.
No one really knows what went on, but I’m not going to defend Warde based on the things I believe to be true.
January 24th, 2024 at 8:01 PM ^
Because nobody in the NFL wanted him until after he started winning again. That’s what started the talk, not Harbaugh having temporary amnesia about wanting to win a Lombardi.
January 24th, 2024 at 8:23 PM ^
I think it took balls to do what Warde did at the time. I think we all have really short memories around here. Harbaugh was performing under expectation before the 2020 season. His quarterbacks weren't fantastic. He was stubborn, which used to drive people around here crazy. He won the games he was supposed to and couldn't beat our rivals or win bowl games. And then 2020 happened. Warde did exactly what people now wish he'd do with Juwan. He acted. I'm sure it pissed off Harbaugh and while I'm not saying there's a direct correlation between his much improved performance and the pay cut, we did see a turn around. Harbaugh embraced change and brought in people with different philosophies. If he hadn't gotten the pay cut, would that have happened? I'm not sure.
January 24th, 2024 at 9:12 PM ^
Ha, pay cut? He slashed Jim's salary in half. That's not a pay cut, it's an insult.
Maybe that lit fire in him, but certainly didn't sit well with him. And I don't know how you consider this as Warde "acting," when there's nothing profound about cutting Jim's salary in half.
January 24th, 2024 at 8:45 PM ^
Maybe Warde needs to take a paycut?
January 24th, 2024 at 7:38 PM ^
Why is it so binary? How about if your boss suspended you without notice? Didn't defend you? Would you be loyal? Just because you job searched before doesn't mean you will again.
It's very annoying to me to see posters who have been here a long time and know the situation, like you.. like... almost defend Warde. Bakich. Beilein. Harbaugh. Keeping Juwan. Jesus, what other proof are you looking for that he's a horrible AD and likely had at least some effect on this situation?
January 24th, 2024 at 7:57 PM ^
Why do people always want to be mad about something? Bakich left because the big ten isn't big time baseball. Beilein and Harbaugh wanted to pursue dreams in the pros. Hopefully Juwan gets fired this year, we don't know. But honestly, you don't win as many championships Michigan has won in all sports recently with a horrible AD
January 24th, 2024 at 9:12 PM ^
I mean, us getting to three straight NCAA playoffs and winning the National Championship in football and getting to the Frozen Four in hockey would seem to be evidence that he's not overseeing a dysfunctional athletic department.
I get it, you can cite other stuff. But goddam, this is an excellent time for Michigan sports — yes, even taking the basketball team into account — and you guys act like it's disastrous.
I'm not a Warde-defender. I don't much care one way or another. But all you guys do is blame every single thing that happens to our teams that disappoints you on him. Our coaches leave to go to the pros? It's Warde's fault. The basketball team struggles? It's Warde's fault.
We get the best assistant coaches in America on the football team? Warde had nothing to do with it. We win a National Championship? Warde had nothing to do with it.
Good God, man. Considering how little access we have as to what literally goes on behind the scenes, just admit that you ... don't ... know.
January 24th, 2024 at 8:14 PM ^
After his contract was cut to shit. That matters, a lot. Not even so much for the money, but the message it sends. He has been very open, honest, and vocal about what he wanted. He's a relatively sophisticated guy, he isn't going to say outright "fix this specific thing" in public. So he spoke obliquely, but the meaning always seemed clear to me. Show me the damn respect I deserve.
I don't think that ever actually happened. Not saying I know anything for a fact, this is all just my perception of the situation.
January 24th, 2024 at 10:47 PM ^
The problem with “show me the respect I deserve” personalities is they always feel they deserve more respect than they are getting. There is never enough because the goal posts always move on what it should be. That personality style seldom translates to a good long term employee which is somewhat represented in Jim Harbaugh’s career path.
January 24th, 2024 at 9:38 PM ^
I mean, I really don't think it's "on" anybody. Warde hasn't been the perfect AD, but Harbaugh's burning ambition to win a Super Bowl isn't Warde's fault. And Harbaugh is certainly entitled to pursue his ambitions, so he can't be blamed for doing exactly that (especially given everything he added to the trophy case the past three years).
Sometimes, there's just no one to blame. We hired one of the best coaches in the history of the game, and he took us to the top of the mountain. We always knew he wanted to climb the highest mountaintop there is, and now he's off on his quest to do that. There's nothing left to say except to thank him and wish him good luck.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:20 PM ^
What didn’t he do? Harbaugh was offered the highest contract ever for a coach and was given an arbitration panel.
Harbaugh wants a Super Bowl, especially since his brother has one and maybe two.
I'm not saying anything about the job Warde has done, but he didn’t run Jimmy out of town and you have zero “proof”.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:39 PM ^
Beilein is gone
Bakich is gone
Harbaugh is gone
Golder (Men's gymnastics) is gone.
Two final fours, a world series appearance, and five national championships out the door on Manuel's watch.
all have varying explanations, but it's a terrible look.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:47 PM ^
Exactly. And I'm not saying those are all his fault. But to fan on all of them? Man. Pay me a million a year and I'll run top coaches out.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:59 PM ^
Noone gives any credit for the successes. He kept Harbaugh around for NINE years. Imagine if he had left for an NFL job before the 2021 or 22 season and we never won the championship. Imagine if Warde had fired him when half of this board thought he should after 2020. WE JUST WON! The anger here baffles me
January 24th, 2024 at 8:11 PM ^
Fair point. But who got Harbaugh? A person not named Warde. Just sayin!
January 24th, 2024 at 8:11 PM ^
Fair point. But who got Harbaugh? A person not named Warde. Just sayin!
January 24th, 2024 at 8:05 PM ^
This is where I’m at also. I mean, he’s better than Brandon, and so careful what you wish for, and we could do a lot worse - but for the pay he gets, his positive achievements are not obvious to me.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:43 PM ^
If your boss suspended you... without notice... for buying a recruit a burger. How would that make you feel? Warm and fuzzy or annoyed and shitty?
January 24th, 2024 at 8:04 PM ^
He got suspending for pissing off the NCAA, who planned to suspend him for even longer (and still probably would). Is the NCAA stupid? Yes. Is a 3 game suspension in the weakest noncon ever worth making things worse over? No.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:40 PM ^
I'm not a Warde fan but Harbaugh has won us a National Championship 🏆 and he want a Super Bowl. Harbaugh's departure at this point is completely understandable. And Warde could have supported Jim from here to the moon and back and Harbaugh would be leaving anyway. His job here has been accomplished. Thanks for everything, coach. May you be as successful in Los Angeles as you have been in Ann Arbor.
January 24th, 2024 at 8:25 PM ^
This pure speculation.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:13 PM ^
Except he did. He had a reported rift with Harbaugh.He didn’t even show up to the team banquet, he went to a Dolphins game instead. Not to mention cutting Harbaugh’s salary in half and not granting immunity until today.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:15 PM ^
Ah yes, lets ignore Harbaugh's years of flirting with the NFL because Warde went to a Dolphins game. DO you realize how moronic you sound
January 24th, 2024 at 7:28 PM ^
We may never know exactly how their relationship was, but Manuel missing the football banquet certainly was an odd choice for him to make. Especially considering that he is a former U-M football player himself.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:17 PM ^
Harbaugh has rifts wherever he coaches.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:25 PM ^
Isn't 9 years his longest job so far? It almost has to be. They call it the carousel for a reason, and absolutely NONE of us would have turned down this deal if you'd told us what would happen after the 2-4 COVID year.
January 24th, 2024 at 7:30 PM ^
This place is going to be so much fun over the next several days!
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