Day 3 of the NFL Draft and Your Predictions
Mates,
Day 3 of the NFL draft starts at noon with rounds 4-7. Obviously we're pretty happy with how our school has shown out so far (Moody, 3rd round, who'd a thunk it?), but there are a number of other Wolverines we hope get their name called.
Today's questions:
1. Who/which Michigan players get their name called today?
2. Who/which Michigan players get a very quick Free Agent contract (UDFA) signed today or tomorrow?
3. What other draft predictions for us, other schools, or our beloved and beleaguered Lions.
Lambs are still dropping. Have a great weekend
XM
April 29th, 2023 at 10:01 AM ^
This lions will disappoint for a third consecutive day.
April 29th, 2023 at 11:19 AM ^
Upvoted for realistic expectations
April 29th, 2023 at 12:16 PM ^
Was day two disappointing? All the picks filled clear needs, and Branch seems like a steal where they got him. The only possible reach was the DT, but that's pretty benign at the end of the third.
April 29th, 2023 at 12:56 PM ^
Campbell is too slow. Don’t draft a RB in the first. Gibbs won’t even be starting and you spent a first round pick. The lions have one of the worst defenses in the league. Their d line needs severe help. Jalen Carter should have been the pick and if you want Campbell he’s there at 18. Then there’s a RB there in the second. Complete fumble by the lions front office.
Complete fumble is just hyperbolic. Each of their first four picks were either thought to be the best or second best at their position coming into the draft. Gibbs is versatile enough to spend a first on. And allows them to not extend the injury prone Swift or trade him. Campbell and La Porta will be useful players and fill obvious holes.
I agree the DL needs help but to act like there's nothing there is silly. Still need depth however. Carter fell to 10th for a reason. Lions don't have the veteran DL to help him along and keep him on straight and narrow. But the defense will be far better next year considering what they added in the secondary and they were already playing far better in the second half of the season compared to the disastrous first half. I look at the defense and I see competence at all three levels. When early last year, I saw it nowhere.
I look at the defense and see a giant hole down the middle of it. If only there was an elite DT there to help sure that giant hole. There’s a reason why Hutch was the highest dbl teamed edge player in the league. Because the lions have zero DT threat.
Elite DT isn’t worth much if he gets in off field trouble and isn’t a hard worker. Thats the risk with Carter. Maybe we will regret it, maybe we won’t. But the interviews are vital for their draft evals and obviously, they didn’t like Carter enough to overlook the potential risks.
They got their own run stuffer in the third, with some of the longest arms among DTs. Definitely needs development but if you look at the last couple drafts, Detroit’s DL evals have been very good - Hutch (easy one), Mitchell, McNeil, Paschal all look very good. Onwuzirike hasn’t been healthy, so that’s the only miss.
Really the only spot the Dline needed help was a plugger or run DT. They got that. They have 3 players who were great last year in JP at the end of year and when he was getting healthy. Then of course AH a future HofFamer and the Houston with his 8 sacks. Add in the bringing back of Romeo and his brother along with Harris and the others and the Dline isn't in that bad of shape. Their defense improved as the year went on and it was injured most of the year.
Campbell isn’t slow. Gibbs will play a lot. Lions signed several quality CBs and their DL doesn’t need “severe help”. Alim McNeil is a terrific young player as is Hutch. Okwara, Houston, Cominsky, Harris all are solid players.
Seahawks passed on Carter despite needed DT help too. Doesn’t that make you wonder why?
McNeil is average and will only be an average player. Cominsky the same. And a bunch of edge rushers don’t help stop the run in the middle. No it doesn’t make me wonder why the Seahawks passed on Carter. Especially when they have a glaring hole at CB. the Seahawks drafting Gibbs would be the same thing. They don’t need a first round guy at RB…..Jack Campbell is too slow for a common era ILB. He. Is. Slow. The Lions draft this year is is awful.
Don’t give the they signed people to help the CB spot. Year for super short term deals.
Wow buddy you obviously don't watch football or know anything about football Dirty. Campbell had one of the best RAS in this years draft for all positions. He is 250lb 6 foot 5 with 4.6 speed and he is way better in the quickness and agility then long speed. Please you are just making yourself look dumber then your comments
Couldn’t care less about RAS. What I care about is tape and his tape against superior athletes leaves him whiffing all the time when he’s matched 1 on 1. Which every NFL RB and TE is a superior athlete. He is going to struggle in coverage while in man and struggle to contain anywhere a RB threatens an edge.
April 29th, 2023 at 11:47 PM ^
I mean the experts have players do all that funky RAS shit just for the fun of it.
Well with Swift gone, it looks like Gibbs may indeed be starting.
I will laugh at the Lions for signing Montgomery for starting RB and then drafting one in 1st. Gibbs May end up being great, but the value of the 1st rd picks was silly. Oh, well, glad they want to not do so well this year. Go Bears!
My bet is Gibbs will used more as a receiver despite having "RB" next to his name
Montgomery is the replacement for Williams and Gibbs hopefully an upgrade from Swift. Their offense used both last year pretty effectively
The NFL is a game which requires 2 RBs by almost all 32 teams. Watch or learn more about the NFL.
I asked about day two, and you complained about the first round.
Then there’s a RB there in the second.
There were a lot of RBs there in the second. Did you have one in mind? Reports indicate that Gibbs was going to the Pats at 14 or the Jets at 15 if the Lions didn't take him, so I assume you're referring to someone else (Charbonnet?).
They don’t even need to draft a RB. But there’s options later on in the draft. Hell chase brown in the 4-5 round wouldn’t have been bad. But here we are over spending on a RB.
I’ve been optimistic about the Lions and their progress under the new regime, but I also hated this draft other than Branch and Hooker on Day 2. Every other pick were massive reaches or luxury picks or both.
They needed a starting DT in the worst way but instead they trade multiple picks to grab some small college dude that didn’t even have a draft profile in the third round.
Is Martin Mayhew back in charge?1?
April 29th, 2023 at 10:12 AM ^
Olu is next
April 29th, 2023 at 10:15 AM ^
Then Ryan Hayes. Hope he gets picked soon.
The center from Troy going before Olu was baffling.
Go Blue!!!!
Especially by the Pats. Belichick usually loves wolverines.
Odds MSU has more players drafted than EMU? So far it's 1-1. They better hope that punter goes
April 29th, 2023 at 10:24 AM ^
the cowboys will complete the Wolverine hat trick today
April 29th, 2023 at 10:32 AM ^
I hope the Lions get another Dlineman. We need to control the line of scrimmage better at times.
April 29th, 2023 at 11:23 AM ^
I do too, but at this point BPA is important.
April 29th, 2023 at 11:39 AM ^
I think they'll be expecting Levi to come back and play next year instead. They've got 3 Day-2 drafted tackles on the roster, now.
April 29th, 2023 at 10:41 AM ^
Olu not being picked yet seems criminal
April 29th, 2023 at 10:48 AM ^
Agree. Why are Centers so undervalued?
April 29th, 2023 at 10:52 AM ^
indeed. first, snapping the ball and then being able to block just as effectively as the other O-lineman is a true talent. second, the center makes the first and most important line calls as the D sets up. and when necessary, he audibles on the line when the D changes schemes.
O-line are the smartest and centers are the smartest of the O-line.
April 29th, 2023 at 11:10 AM ^
Yep I agree with you there. The main reason for my initial comment is that several centers have been picked ahead of Olu already and 3 of them were from the Big Ten.
I just cannot see how Penn State, Minnesota, and Wisconsin all are believed to have a center worth taking over Olu
April 29th, 2023 at 11:48 AM ^
OSU's center is ranked higher by most sites too. I don't know what the knock on Olu is.
April 29th, 2023 at 11:56 AM ^
I think the overriding theme is that he lacks athleticism and also he’s only ever basically played Center, which limits his value to a team that might wanna go to cover more than one position. See the front page description of him for details.
I think most of the Buckeyes OL is highly ranked too - you know, four and five star talent.
That being said, I really like how the Buckeyes OL performs in the regular season finale. Don’t change anything.
April 29th, 2023 at 12:10 PM ^
It’s not that they’re undervalued, but he is undersized for his position (at the NFL level, anyway) and he has very little experience playing other positions on the line.
If you’re undersized, then you need to have positional versatility to still get drafted high in the league. Olu doesn’t. He’ll still get drafted, but this is what’s hurting his stock.
April 29th, 2023 at 10:44 AM ^
The Giants are having a great draft!
April 29th, 2023 at 10:54 AM ^
i haven't paid attention the new york football giants' draft, but they need to have a stellar draft since it looks like the eagles are eating everybody else's lunch.
April 29th, 2023 at 11:35 AM ^
I think the Jets would have been better served to get some O-line help for Rodgers. He ain't no spring chicken and the protection is one reason their QBs struggled. Aaron could have years taken off his life this year, lol.
April 29th, 2023 at 10:46 AM ^
Morris(5/6), Olu(4/5), Bell(6/7), Hayes(5/6), Robbins, Seltzer, Honingford, Green(UDFA).
April 29th, 2023 at 10:50 AM ^
seltzer, the walk-on, would be a great story --> scholarship---> NFL
April 29th, 2023 at 11:25 AM ^
He puts the fizz in the drink!
Hoping he goes to the Giants or Jets
April 29th, 2023 at 11:34 AM ^
Michigan does a good job with its TEs. I can see a team having him come in and see what he can do. I don't think he'll make an NFL roster or even the practice squad. And maybe UDFA isn't right. Does the NFL allow invites to non drafted rookies to camps? I just think he'll get a look.
April 29th, 2023 at 10:51 AM ^
That many Lions fans will continue to ignore the draft successes of the last two years and think that picking a 7th rounder 5 spots earlier than he was projected is a crime against humanity.
April 29th, 2023 at 11:11 AM ^
This staff has repeatedly proven they know what they're doing when they evaluate talent and draft. They traded down and got 5 players who had 1st round potential, and got 5 likely first year starters in 6 picks. Really don't see why people are complaining about it.
April 29th, 2023 at 11:28 AM ^
I think they only got four starter level players now as Hooker and Martin need work before being contributors. But those were the final two picks of the first two days and the staff has shown a knack for development.
If you told me that we’d come out of this draft with Branch, Gibbs, Campbell and La Porta, I’d have been pretty happy. I would have expected them to be picked in a different order but the fact that Branch fell as far as he did and Campbell went as high as he did are proof that the mocks are very unreliable. Another ILB didn’t go til 67, so shows you how thin that position is. And it was a need, so go get your guy. Third RB didn’t go til 52 and it isn’t the kind of RB the Lions need. Spears would be closest to Gibbs and he didn’t go til 81. People will say these gaps are proof of positional value and that the Lions reached but they were both big needs and they got the the best or second best players with the first four picks. Success IMO. Would have liked a CB or DT earlier but can’t fill every need every draft
April 29th, 2023 at 11:45 AM ^
It'll be interesting to see how it plays out with Gibbs, he has the talent of a superstar, just not the stats, because he played in such a balanced offense, at multiple positions. It wouldn't surprise me if it flips from "biggest reach" to "steal of the draft" coming from the analysts, once he gets on the field.