November 14th, 2013 at 1:02 PM ^
...he was discouraged from going into engineering at Michigan. We don't know.
November 14th, 2013 at 1:02 PM ^
Yeah, except the engineering program at Bama isn't fucking impossible to get through.
November 14th, 2013 at 1:08 PM ^
Ummm neither is Michigan's? Just replace all the drinking and video games with football and any engineering grad could have played football and got that degree.
November 14th, 2013 at 1:12 PM ^
I'm curious.
November 14th, 2013 at 1:13 PM ^
you clearly didn't go through Michigan's engineering program...
November 14th, 2013 at 1:15 PM ^
"Cut out the drinking and video games," hah. I wish.
November 14th, 2013 at 1:17 PM ^
I did. And if he has time management skills, which are basically forced on you by the athletics staff, I see no reason you couldn't do engineering and football.
November 14th, 2013 at 1:24 PM ^
Mark Huyge and Grant Mason did it. Sherrod Harrell did it (playing basketball).
November 14th, 2013 at 5:20 PM ^
I have friends in engineering who drank and partied more than I did in lsa and did well enough to get into michigan engineering for a masters, so i think you just like to make it sound harder than it actually is for some reason.
November 14th, 2013 at 6:12 PM ^
I'm going to have to disagree with you. I got my CE degree at a Top 3 institution for such a major. I had no job, and took only 12 hours for my final 5-6 semesters. I barely passed through. Not all engineering majors are considered equal. Sure, Bama has CE, too, but I imagine it's not as intensive or material-engulfing as Michigan's.
November 14th, 2013 at 7:05 PM ^
I got a CE degree from Michigan. It took me 4 years. I went to less and less classes every year. By senior year I didn't go to class besides first day and exams, I never even set an alarm after sophmore year. Even freshmen year when I went to all my classes I had plenty of free time. It's not that hard or time-consuming and what do we lose if we let him go engineering? He either can do it, he can't and he changes major, or far less likely he can't and transfers somewhere else.
November 14th, 2013 at 7:12 PM ^
You're probably just smarter than I am, in that case.
November 14th, 2013 at 1:12 PM ^
yep, just keep thinking he chose Alabama over Michigan because of the engineering program. I'm sure it doesn't have to do with the other big part of his life, football. Where Alabama has won 3/4 Nat Championships and we have lost 3/4 game. Real head scratcher there.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:55 PM ^
Commence meltdown.
Maybe. Kind of.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:55 PM ^
2 weeks have been awesome for Michigan fans....sigh
November 14th, 2013 at 2:23 PM ^
Basketball is pretty good, if you ask me. It could be 2008. or 09. No good bball or fball.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:55 PM ^
Lets just be clear about one thing: this was NOT primarily about academics, as was the storyline
November 14th, 2013 at 12:59 PM ^
As soon as you say you like Bama because of their engineering program over Michigan, you're making stuff up to justify it.
Which isn't really necessary when Bama's going to win their 4th title in the last 5 years this January. That's reason enough.
November 14th, 2013 at 1:07 PM ^
Exactly in regards to Michigan Engineering vs. Alabama.
November 14th, 2013 at 1:13 PM ^
If you do a straight apples to apples comparison of engineering departments, yeah you'd choose UM over Bama. However, the UM coaches were steering him towards a Sports Management degree whereas Bama told him they were fine with him doing engineering.
So you have a dynasty telling him he can major in engineering or a program that appears to be struggling giving him hints they'd rather not have him major in engineering.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:59 PM ^
There was a rumor that he was dissuaded from going into engineering at Michigan but not at Alabama. Maybe that's true. Maybe it's not. But we don't know, and we're only guessing if we try to read his motivation.
November 14th, 2013 at 1:10 PM ^
There is two Michigan's, hurts but the truth. If the kid really wanted to go into engineering and felt like he was a good student and not the outstanding one that is required to succeed at UM Engineering then 'Bama was a better fit academically.
November 14th, 2013 at 1:14 PM ^
and that Hand wanted to go into engineering, considering his HS offers some sort of engineering curriculum, but he knew the most realistic option to accomplish that was to pursue an engineering degree at a less demanding program like Alabama vs trying to juggle football and the demands of a top engineering school like UM.
It is often the case where I think athletes who stress academics are not necessarily saying they want to attend the hardest, most demanding, highest ranked program in that field. They are saying they value finding the best academic fit and that is what is important to them.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:55 PM ^
We win PSU and Neb, and he might have been here. Can't hardly blame him...this program seems to be going backwards.
November 14th, 2013 at 1:08 PM ^
Borges not willing to adjust has (most likely) cost us a big-time recruit...and I don'y buy Hand's BS on wanting to get an engineering degree, he is going to play football, I will be amazed if he gets an engineering degree at any school while still being a star on the field
November 14th, 2013 at 12:55 PM ^
And really, a d-lineman with NFL talent going to Bama? Big surprise and can't blame him at all.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:56 PM ^
Happy trails, Mr. Hand. Alabama is starting to look like the player-controlled team on an EA NCAA Football Dynasty a few years in on easy mode.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:56 PM ^
November 14th, 2013 at 1:37 PM ^
whose scholarship and free education have just been donated to Hand.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:56 PM ^
Seems like a good guy. I'm sure he'll do very well.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:57 PM ^
Seriously. There's every appearance he gave it a lot of consideration, and chose to go with the two-time national champion and a bit of a dynasty.
So good luck to Da'Shawn Hand.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:57 PM ^
what a bunch of BS, the last 2 weeks keep getting better (by better I mean worse).
I just have a feeling the past 2 weeks of play really hurt us here, thanks again Al Borges!
November 14th, 2013 at 12:57 PM ^
November 14th, 2013 at 12:57 PM ^
Hand-jobbed.
November 14th, 2013 at 1:10 PM ^
lol you are both bitter and didn't bother to read. Michigan told him he couldn't do engineering and football. What is better if engineering is your back up plan? an engineering degree from alabama or a sports marketing degree from michigan? And of course football really comes first anyways, if any recruit ever had academics truly number 1 their list would go stanford, all the ivy schools, berkely, ucla, and other private schools before they got to michigan anyway.
edit: sorry this was meant for the post above.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:57 PM ^
Well, shit.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:57 PM ^
The coaching staff didn't execute
November 14th, 2013 at 12:57 PM ^
Oh well. Good luck, Mr. Hand.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:58 PM ^
The difference in education for engineering is comical...Why did Michigan take that off the board. Whelp...bad month of coaching decisions.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:58 PM ^
November 14th, 2013 at 1:07 PM ^
They can HAVE Hand if it meant fixing those basic football issues and our guys playing up to their potential and coaches putting them in positions to win.
If someone gave me that trade, I'd take the team fixes over Hand in a heartbeat.
Unfortuately...he's with Bama and we still suck.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:58 PM ^
Makes sense. Go to the school that is undefeated and competes for a NC every year or go to the school that is 2-3 in the horrible Big Ten because their offensive staff is a joke.
Gotta wonder if Michigan was 8-1 and still had a chance at a BCS Bowl if things could have been different.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:58 PM ^
I'm a little surprised, but then I think about this logically, and I'm not. At all.
Nonetheless, cue the "ESS EEE CEE PAYS PLAYERS LOLOLOL!!" apologists.
November 14th, 2013 at 12:58 PM ^
the sleeper recruits.....
November 14th, 2013 at 12:59 PM ^
Sucks but isn't the end of the world; he's just one player in a team sport. Can hardly blame him for going to a team with so much recent success. Wish him luck in his career. Go Blue!
November 14th, 2013 at 12:59 PM ^
November 14th, 2013 at 12:59 PM ^
Put us out of our misery.