CC: Who are your top 5?

Submitted by milhouse on November 8th, 2020 at 10:49 PM

I've got:

1. Kyle Wittingham:

Pros: Proven winner. Clean. Can beat teams he's not expected to. 

Cons: 60. West coast guy.

2. Luke Fickell:

Pros: built a winner at Cincy. Young. Midwest guy. Knows OSU/rivalries 

Cons: OSU guy (I guess)? Not a power 5 coach? Smaller track record.

3. Matt Campbell:

Pros: Young. Midwest guy. Power 5 coach. 

Cons: hasn't built a winner at ISU (yet)

4. Brent Venables:

Pros: Top notch DC. National titles. 

Cons: No HC experience.

5.Dave Aranda:

Pros: Top notch DC. National title. Knows the Big 10.

Cons: No HC experience. 

 

Whatcha got?

GoBlueSimon

November 9th, 2020 at 8:31 AM ^

People saying Urban Meyer are cracking me up.  You can't even get that guy to say Michigan on the air.  Luke Fickell would be an interesting hire.  Another Bo-esque situation.

I honestly haven't thought about this much because for some stupid reason I still think Harbaugh is going to turn it around.  I feel like Michigan was best under him when he was being loud and crazy on the sideline.  It got the players going.  I feel like since he was told to tone it down Michigan hasn't been the same.

I think the problem Michigan's gonna have is that we're running through the same coaches but a different situation everywhere.  They've gotta be willing to go into the assistant coach, or FCS/D-II ranks to find a guy that will do the job, and that's gotta take faith from the fan base that might not be there.

MDwolverine

November 9th, 2020 at 8:38 AM ^

I'm by no means clued into the world of CFB enough to know whose out there, but I'm very high on Mark Stoops. I know he's not a WOW hire but he checks so many boxes. I'm personally a huge proponent of anyone who can get us to recruit (and develop) in Ohio again. This program has always been at its best when you get kids from Ohio and I'm sure it helps with amping up the intensity of the Game.

tigerd

November 9th, 2020 at 8:38 AM ^

If this travesty continues Manuel will have the most difficult decision. With the athletic programs budget in total disarray can he really afford to just let this staff go and pay all of these contracts out while having to also pay the new incoming staffs contracts? If he decides to keep him for the last year of his contract without renewing he would have to know in doing so he ties the programs hands with recruiting because every other program would use the lame duck negative recruiting tactic. If he keeps him, he takes the chance of miring this program in mediocrity for years to come. Guess that's why he gets paid the big bucks

MJG

November 9th, 2020 at 8:43 AM ^

All this CC stuff is such an exercise in futility. If you really think Harbaugh will be fired this year, no matter the team’s record, I have a bridge to sell you. 

Schemboeller C…

November 9th, 2020 at 8:56 AM ^

How has Matt Campbell not built a winner yet? He consistently has ISU in the top 25 and beats the top dogs in the Big 12 everyone now and then. That’s about as good as it can get at ISU.

SecretAgentMayne

November 9th, 2020 at 9:04 AM ^

1. Dan Mullen (Jim Hackett’s plan B in case Harbaugh turned Michigan down. Honestly, probably too-little-too-late and unlikely at this point as he seems to have a good thing going at Florida, but I definitely think it’s worth Warde giving him a call. The man can clearly coach. 
 

2.Luke Fickell

3. Matt Campbell

4. Mario Cristobal

unsure as to #5 yet, but those are my top four at this point. 
 

plz absolutely no “Michigan men” 

Naked Bootlegger

November 9th, 2020 at 9:23 AM ^

1-5. Dabo Swinney.   There's no way Clemson will retain him after this weekend's embarrassing loss to ND.   His hot seat is on fire.   Why not take a chance on rehabilitating a coach with national championship credentials?

 

/S

Kilgore Trout

November 9th, 2020 at 9:25 AM ^

Fickell is a hard no for me based on the James Hudson thing alone. Seems like he is either extremely comfortable with straight up lying to get his way or legitimately dumb. Seems like maybe both. 

No one on these lists seem do much for me. You win games with offense and recruiting these days. I'd be comfortable giving Gattis a shot rather than a retread. 

Perkis-Size Me

November 9th, 2020 at 9:31 AM ^

Why do people around here keep thinking that Fickell would even consider us? The guy played at OSU, and coached there for over a decade. He would laugh in the face of Michigan extending him an offer, and would probably take the piece of paper it’s printed on, and wipe his ass with it.

Saying this guys an option is almost as ludicrous as saying Urban Meyer is an option. If Michigan wants to extend him an offer, that is their prerogative. They just better be ready to get embarrassed in the media when Fickell immediately turns the offer down and has to explain the reasons why. The reasons that everyone and their mother should already know. Besides, it’s not like the guy Will be hurting for options when he decides to make the jump from Cincinnati. Auburn could want him, LSU could want him, USC could want him. And those are just the schools off the top of my head that might have openings this year.

buddha

November 9th, 2020 at 9:43 AM ^

Eric Bieniemy, Mario Cristobal, Matt Campbell, Chris Klineman, Luke Fickell, Joe Brady...not sure if any of those are realistic but I’m not totally sure if this entire thread is realistic...

MIMark

November 9th, 2020 at 10:10 AM ^

1. Luke Fickell. Great HC experience. Brings an exciting young DC. Mentored under both Tressel and Meyer. Understands the rivalry.

2. Neal Brown. Young, hungry, scrappy, and no sense of entitlement. One of the nation's premiere offensive minds. Great run at Troy with conference championships. QB is a transfer from a bad Bowling Green team who was okay there and is now lighting up defenses, so good indication of Brown's player development. Took over the mess left by Holgorsen.

3. Scott Satterfield. Very similar to Brown. Great run at App State. I have Brown above Satterfield because almost all his experience is at one place. Note, Satterfield was the QB coach at App State during the horror of 2007. He coached Armanti Edwards. The guy can flat out coach. Of course the optics of the hire might be troublesome. 

4. Any major offensive assistant from Alabama or Clemson. I want to go offense and I want a piece of those winning cultures. Sarkisian is going to be a head coach again sometime and he joins Lane Kiffin, Mike Locksley, and Butch Jones as fired coaches who have their careers revived under Saban. Assuming alcoholism is in the past, he's worth a look. For that matter, maybe Butch Jones given his run at CMU.

5. Lance Leipold. He would be a home run hire for Iowa. Worth a serious look here given his job at UWW.

BigSi

November 9th, 2020 at 10:49 AM ^

While I would love a big name hire like Mullen or Meyer, that seems very improbable. Our program is a wreck, there are positions (DB,DT) that lack talent, and our fanbase is very demanding. This is a high pressure job! I would like us to hire someone who has been successful developing players and building a program.

Here are some coaches that don't get talked about enough, but I think could be a good fit:

Dave Clawson -- The job he has done at Wake Forest is amazing. He has very little talent to work with, but is winning football games. Was successful in turnarounds at Fordham and Richmond (Won conference titles at both schools).

Tom Allen -- He has done a really nice job at Indiana, they develop players and recruit excellent skilled players.

Bryan Harsin --  Great track record as OC and HC at Boise State.

Mark Farley --- Great track record at N. Iowa in FCS. Might be a little bit of a reach and there is a good chance he will coach at Iowa once Ferentz retires.

MIMark

November 9th, 2020 at 12:05 PM ^

Clawson was an outstanding coach at Bowling Green. Complete rebuild job. He can recruit Ohio and Michigan. 

But I'm not sure he would leave Wake Forest. He mentioned family in the region in his intro press conference. He's got more than just money on the mind.

MHWolverine

November 9th, 2020 at 10:57 AM ^

I really wish Warde was gone! He's in Harbaugh's back pocket and will never fire him or do what needs to be done. We need an AD with some balls, that wants to win at no coast! That's just how you need to be in college football if you want to compete with the OSU's, Alabama's and Clemson's. I know it's not a popular line but what Michigan needs to do is contact Urban and convince him that this is where he needs to be. 

OSU didn't stop Ryan Day from poaching two of Michigan's best coaches so why can't Michigan get or at least try to get Urban? Nobody really know's what he'd do, everybody has a price. Even if it's not Urban, they need to find the right guy and I have no confidence Warde will find him.

MGoStrength

November 9th, 2020 at 10:57 AM ^

I'd like to see us go Bo 2.0 by bringing in a Meyer subordinate.  The best candidate to me seems like Hafley.  Just like Bo, he can simply copy Meyer's system and do what Meyer did to make OSU so successful.  He might even bring over some young up and comers and return the coach poaching favor to OSU by hiring Hartline.

MGoStrength

November 9th, 2020 at 1:17 PM ^

Hafley never coached under Meyer.  Hafley coached one season at OSU under Ryan Day.

Good call, but since Meyer is still there and Day's basically running Meyer's program I'm thinking it's almost just as good.

Defense improved a ton under him, but he had Chase Young, and two first round corners.

I think the key there is the improvement.  All those guys were there the year before, but they produced much better with Haflely at the helm.  And, he was also a great recruiter and has already done so good work at BC in that regard too.

Perkis-Size Me

November 9th, 2020 at 11:27 AM ^

I don’t know enough about the actual landscape of who’s available and who’s any good, but I’d love to find a young up-and-comer who knows how to recruit well and can coach a modern-day offense. Find a competent DC but it doesn’t need to be an elite DC. Honestly, these days it’s offense that wins championships, and defense is mattering less and less. 

Find someone who has no ties to Michigan who can come in here and tell us how it really is. Blow up the whole thing, right down to the foundation stones, and rebuild it back up with a new image and new culture. There are problems here that go well beyond Harbaugh, are deep-seated, and I think we need someone with a completely fresh, outside perspective to come in. 

SharkBuckeye

November 9th, 2020 at 11:53 AM ^

FWIW, 2 of last three coaches that OSU hired were not big-name guys:

Tressel -- was head coach at Youngstown State

Day -- was an assistant at OSU, no head coaching experience.