CC: One reason to keep Jim Harbaugh???

Fuck all this. Best I can tell is Harbaugh has had an offer on the table for a while but has let it sit on his desk. He's dragging his feet waiting for an NFL offer. So his heart is not here anymore. That's all I need to know. Warde's game is to get Harbaugh to self select out and save the athletic department millions. Reasonable enough but what happens if no NFL offers materialize and Harbaugh signs the extension? No you have some kind of longer commitment to a man who has proven he is not committed.

Clemson was shitty for years before Dabo.  Dabo likely cheated his ass off but everyone down there cheats and Dabo does it better. Not sure Harbaugh is passionately underhanded enough to pull a rabbit out of a Clemson hat.

That seemed quite the non-sequitur remark.

Your OP breaks no new ground and is lacking in substance. The comparisons to Brian Kelly’s 2016 season at ND have been made numerous times before across many threads. 
 

The quick way to sum up the discussion is this:

Someone will argue that Brian Kelly was given a second chance after an abysmal season and after having general success over his first six seasons. They will compare Harbaugh at Michigan to Kelly at Norte Dame during their first six years and say that there is evidence for a turnaround just like Brian Kelly administered. 

Others will respond that this analysis misses a few key points. First, Kelly had coached ND to a National Championship and an undefeated season during the first seven years of his tenure. Second, of the games that ND lost, all but one game of the 2016 season they lost by one score and was therefore “competitive” in every game, whereas in Harbaughs’ “down year” Michigan was hardly competitive in most of its losses. Third, that Kelly made a commitment to change himself and his staff to achieve a turnaround; where is the evidence that Harbaugh is doing this when he won’t even commit to his current job?
 

If there are other parts of the comparison you feel need to be discussed, then please bring them to our attention. But your OP is just a re-tread of the same talking point(s) that others have been using to support retaining Harbaugh. 

“I have not seen one that discusses the reasons to keep Harbaugh vs firing him.”

You cannot be serious. You can’t swing a dead cat around here without banging into several every day, and it’s been that way for weeks.

That did not happen... yet

bringing him back with the chance to prove himself and beat Ohio State and make it to the Big Ten championship: I thought that was clearly implied in my post. Regurgitating all of the talking points about his failures is missing the point, and frankly annoying. (And setting up a straw man argument implying that I don’t think anything better is attainable is disingenuous, intellectually deceitful, and obnoxious). Yes, he was not hired for a solid tenure. He was hired for an excellent tenure. He has had a good performance, but not good enough. Giving him one or two more years with all of his devotion its not unreasonable - in my estimation.

So what your saying is that the success and failure of a coach is not their accomplishments or winning percentage or bowl wins or championships. It's whether or not they lived up to the expectations when they were hired. 

So by that logic, Jim is a failure even though he won 9-10 games a year and stabilized (outside of this year) a defunct Michigan team because he failed to beat his rival, win a big 10 title and win a championship. 

If Matt Campbell does the same exact thing but comes in with lower (non savior expectations) then he might be considered successful with the same resume? That doesn't seem very fair to Harbaugh. He's not in control of the hype or expectations. The fans and media are. 

If you told me after the Rich Rod and Hoke years that we would hire a coach (let's say it was Matt Campbell level coach) that would have a solid tenure and average 9-10 wins a game but still struggle to break through to being elite, then i'd say that was a successful hire and we are headed in the right direction.

Instead, everyone here is acting like we are suddenly bottom feeders of the BIG 10 because of a COVID impacted year where almost everything went wrong (yes everyone had to deal with it but not every team was impacted as significantly as Michigan or Penn State for that matter). Take a step back, analyze the realities of the situation and make a educated assessment. Are we as good as OSU under Harbaugh? No (that's been the case for two decades). Are we as good as PSU, ND, or Wisconsin? Most of the time, yes. Are we as bad as we were under Hoke or Rich Rod? No.