CC: Gruden's Out There
As many of you have heard, there is a rumor that Gruden is being interviewed for the job. He hasn't been discussed half as much as the other candidates, maybe due to the fact that people don't consider him a realistic 'get'. Now that this is swirling around, as are rumors about everyrhing and everyone, what would you guys think of having the former Super Bowl Champ as our HC?
I for one have mixed feelings. On the the one hand, he's a huge name which would attract a lot of media and recruit attention to our program. He has NFL experience and has won at the highest level. He's nationally heralded as great head coach and i for one like his firey personality. On the other hand, I don't really see him talking to kids about academics or homesickness/family issues. A lot of people underestimate how important it is to have that mentor metality in college coaching and I'm not sure if Gruden is that type of guy.
I will say this: I rather have Gruden than a 58 year old Les Miles.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:07 PM ^
Gruden would give Michigan a serious opportunity to win 9 games next year and he would be a killer recruiter. He has a great defensive mind and he's interested in the spread. Plus he's 47. There wouldn't be a more perfect get (at this point), in my opinion, save for maybe Gary Patterson.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:16 PM ^
IIRC, Gruden has only ever been quartebacks coach, wide receivers coach or offensive coordinator when he wasn't a head coach. I don't see any evidence that he has a great defensive mind (not saying I wouldn't be interested, just that defense isn't his specialty).
January 8th, 2011 at 8:27 PM ^
I don't think you have to be a defensive guru to have that kind of mindset. Like Harbaugh who obviously was an offensive guy, I feel like Gruden is a smashmouth type of guy who will bring a mentality that says "take it to the opponent." Don't have any doubt he would bring a philosophy of tough D and an offense that can grind it out in the trenches if need be.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:50 PM ^
January 8th, 2011 at 8:55 PM ^
Monte Kiffin at Defensive Coordinator. But yeah give Gruden the right coordinator and we'll be fine
January 8th, 2011 at 9:07 PM ^
In order to have a great offensive mind, one has to have an even better defensive mind. You cant run an offense without knowing what the defense is doing. Youre job as an OC is to study defenses. No question Gruden will shape up the Michigan D if hired. He wont be in charge of it but at least he wont make his DC run a defense he is not familiar with and one that doesnt work in the Big Ten. Im not hating on RR, I fully supported him, just merely stating a fact.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:27 PM ^
IIRC I remember hearing JG is a X's and O's genius. He knows a lot about both. He specializes in a version of the Tampa 2 on D. On O I believe it's the West Coast. He is mainly offensive minded but can hold his own on D as well.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:29 PM ^
He's also been studying Chip Kelly's spread very intensely. He seems to be fascinated by it so I wouldn't be shocked that if he comes here (big if at this point) he'd be incorporating variations of that as well.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:32 PM ^
I've seen this numerous times on the board. I would like to see where he said that (not doubting you). That would be awesome with Denard at the helm!
January 8th, 2011 at 9:03 PM ^
Yea, I've seen it a lot, too but I actually have seen him talking about it on TV. Wasn't on a specific podcast I could post or anything. From his MNF stuff he does seem to be a guy who loves to break down film so wouldn't surprise me if it's actually true. Definitely would be able to fit Denard into that which is a plus. I need him as my QB!
January 8th, 2011 at 9:47 PM ^
Here is a link where he talks about learning the spread offense.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:05 PM ^
Well luckily there is already a thread about this on this board from 2 hours ago that is 190+ comments long. That should give you a pretty good idea what everyone thinks.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:09 PM ^
That thread is all over the place. They're not talking coaching, they're talking media.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:06 PM ^
I don't know who "Harry Lomason" is...but
Gruden spotted in Ann Arbor...
January 8th, 2011 at 8:12 PM ^
I have a friend who texted us to tell us that he was waiting a table for someone who just interviewed for the job. He doesn't follow football very closely so he didn't know exactly who it was. We have been trying to get a description from him but he's still working. I'm now assuming that this is who he was talking about.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:16 PM ^
Are you serious, or is this another my friend is a waiter who overheard/saw someone post.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:28 PM ^
I'm serious. I wasn't going to start a rumor with this but I'm willing to lend credibility to one.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:18 PM ^
Ask him if he was blond!!!
January 8th, 2011 at 8:20 PM ^
And likes playing with knives.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:20 PM ^
If he ordered baby arms with extra dipping sauce it's Gruden.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:24 PM ^
This is almost identicle to the "My waiter friend overheard them talking about Harbaugh" right down to the "he doesn't follow football".
January 8th, 2011 at 8:32 PM ^
...and he woke up in a tub of ice with a surgical scar on his side.
January 8th, 2011 at 9:07 PM ^
Listen here, my cousins uncle is Gruden wifes friend and he said Gruden was meeting with Dave Brandon. No bull!
January 8th, 2011 at 8:38 PM ^
Some one else spotted him in Ann Arbor and I know that someone just interviewed for the position in Ann Arbor (as opposed to Baton Rouge or Scottsdale). For all I know there could be two coaches in Ann Arbor tonight and he got the other one. Take it or leave it. Like I said above, I'm not trying to start a rumor, only give credibility to it.
January 8th, 2011 at 11:20 PM ^
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/fwiw-michigan-football-vip-and-my-waiter-fr…
Seems as credible as the XXX just put a downpayment on a house (on the weekend) threads.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:57 PM ^
January 8th, 2011 at 8:28 PM ^
I saw this as well, the whole story started that we were interviewing him in Arizona. So this whole thing is turning into BS>
January 8th, 2011 at 8:06 PM ^
Gruden.....I guess the biggest question I have with him is does he put in 5 to 7 yrs like Sneaky Pete did. I think none of us want him here for 3 or 4 yrs tops and then we have to go looking again.
If Gruden can give us at least 6 to 7 yrs then I think we can handle it. One thing is for sure he will run the hell out of the ball. Should be able to assemble a great staff and I think his personaility should be able to lure big time kids to the program.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:16 PM ^
Carroll was at USC for nine years.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:07 PM ^
January 8th, 2011 at 8:14 PM ^
With Gruden I think it's all about his love for football. That is evident when hearing him on MNF. I think he wants to spread his passion for the game with the younger generation, what better place to do that than AA
January 8th, 2011 at 8:18 PM ^
Tom Brady. One word for Tom and it's a done deal. Put it on the board
January 8th, 2011 at 8:27 PM ^
I think the question to ask is what role the NFL coach in question played in player personnel decisions. In a lot of ways, a college HC is more like an NFL GM than an NFL HC. Case in point, Mike Sherman has been fairly successful at A&M, but then he was very involved in the front office in Green Bay.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:07 PM ^
any coach that has won a super bowl and thrived in oakland is welcome to come to a squared
January 8th, 2011 at 8:16 PM ^
Be careful what you wish for.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:18 PM ^
"Won a Super Bowl" usually implies being the head coach at the time.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:31 PM ^
Urban Dictionary-
Gruden:
January 8th, 2011 at 8:23 PM ^
Had Super Bowl rings...although his were from Denver, not Oakland.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:07 PM ^
If someone can shed light, I would be thankful. What happened to Gruden at Tampa in the end. I remember that he was fired and what was the reason. If I remember right, did some players complain that he was too tough. For some reason I seem to think that, I am probably way off. Thanks for the help.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:11 PM ^
where 9 and 3 and we lost 4 straight games to end the season.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:15 PM ^
Ok. Thanks. So he didn't have any problems with players and didn't lose the team. I would think he would get another chance since he won a super bowl. Sorry, I don't follow the Bucs is why I am asking. If it was all about losses then fair enough.
January 8th, 2011 at 9:00 PM ^
it was because the players on the defensive side of the ball quit on the team.Alot of that had to do with are DC leaving for tennessee.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:08 PM ^
am a fan of the Tampa Bay,so i wouldn't mind him coming to coach Michigan,plus it seems like he enjoys coaching younger kids.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:11 PM ^
OMG I JUST SAW DAVE GROHL COMING OUT OF ZINGERMAN'S WITH THE SAME WOMAN WHO CLEANS BRANDON'S OFFICE'S BATHROOMS! I'M TELLING YOU, THIS IS IT!
January 8th, 2011 at 8:23 PM ^
cmon, just let us have our fun
January 8th, 2011 at 9:03 PM ^
Was Krist Novoselic also hanging out w/them?
January 8th, 2011 at 9:37 PM ^
January 8th, 2011 at 8:11 PM ^
I mentioned to my wife that Gruden is now getting thrown around in association with the coaching position, and she said she'd sign up for the women's football academy just to see how Chucky runs it.
Yes, she said Chucky.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:13 PM ^
lol I'm loving the fact that your wife knows his nickname, even more so that she actually uses it in a sentence.
January 8th, 2011 at 8:15 PM ^
Married well. Kudos.