December 19th, 2020 at 12:35 PM ^
I’d rather poach Tom Allen
December 19th, 2020 at 12:38 PM ^
Indiana recruiting rank for 2021 was #61.
December 19th, 2020 at 12:43 PM ^
Who gives a shit? He got Indiana in the top ten for the first time in 50 years.
December 19th, 2020 at 12:57 PM ^
In a Covid year where we had 15 players out, PSU had 15 players out and they didn't score that TD, I don't care what anyone says. They took advantage in a strange season, but they aren't that good.
December 19th, 2020 at 1:13 PM ^
They whooped our ass and gave OSU all they could handle. Give them the respect they've earned. It's not that difficult.
December 19th, 2020 at 3:19 PM ^
As much as we can rightly poke fun at the many limitations and foibles of rival coaches (Franklin, Fleck, Allen, etc. are all most idiosyncratic eccentric people in life) there is one aspect that fans have to acknowledge: they can fire up their teams to play with a lot of heart - sometime it can turn a series, a quarter, a half or even a whole game. It is not going to be more important recruiting talent, developing that talent, and actual hard core X's and O's game planning and adjustment but it is a factor.
This season is very odd and it is hard to assess many things but the overall perception is that the coaching staff can't get the team up for even one game.
December 19th, 2020 at 3:23 PM ^
Excellent point. Franklin is not a great coach, but if his players aren't always fired up, then they fake it really well.
December 19th, 2020 at 5:53 PM ^
I don't know. He's had some ugly losses, like 49-10 and 42-7 to us. They didn't look too fired up those days.
December 20th, 2020 at 1:22 PM ^
As it has been pointed out many times before. Those with experienced lines and skill position players often fared much better than those who did not. Indiana had a lot of experience this year. No spring practice, a short training camp, Covid rules was not the time for Michigan to break in 4 new O-linemen, a new QB and a young WR corps.
December 19th, 2020 at 1:27 PM ^
So one successful year during COVID.
December 19th, 2020 at 1:38 PM ^
So Harbaugh sucks because he had a bad year during COVID, but Allen is overrated because he had a good year during COVID. Got it.
December 19th, 2020 at 1:38 PM ^
EVERY team in CFB had to deal with COVID.Why is UM so special that its been a huge out for why we are so terrible? Why is it such an excuse that some teams did well and others not so well and COVID gets the blame?
December 19th, 2020 at 1:40 PM ^
The Michigan football excuse machine is always well oiled and running efficiently.
December 19th, 2020 at 3:59 PM ^
Yes, but this lacks context. Not every conference, state, city, university or athletic department handled covid the exact same way. Some teams were absolutely more disadvantaged than others. The question is whether Michigan was one of those teams and, if so, how much grace should we extend to JH?
December 19th, 2020 at 4:06 PM ^
How many other teams legit lost their best player on offense and defense for the year because of the B1G cancelling the season early?
December 19th, 2020 at 1:38 PM ^
2019 was a successful year for IU. Allen is basically building a program from the ground up. IU hasn't been decent since Bill Mallory was their coach and his final years were pretty terrible. They had one season with a winning record since 1994 before Allen took over.
If you are blind to the improvement of their program, maybe you just don't understand the level of ineptness of their program since the early 90s.
December 19th, 2020 at 3:44 PM ^
No disrespect to a great year for Indiana, but is a single great year enough for Michigan to ordain the next coming? Maybe the next recruiting cycle improves but ranking of 61 is bad.
December 19th, 2020 at 12:46 PM ^
Yes, mainly because it's Indiana. Not sure what Indiana's avg rank is, but Allen is doing so much more than Michigan with so much less.
If Allen had Michigan's brand, history and resources, he would be recruiting like Michigan does or better and be winning like Michigan wants to win.
December 19th, 2020 at 1:57 PM ^
With Michigan's brand, history and resources Rodriguez, Hoke and Harbaugh should have been great successes, right? So, is this about three coaches who did not perform to expectations or are our brand, history and resources not everything we thought they were?
December 20th, 2020 at 1:26 PM ^
This is the answer and it’s a bummer. Michigan isn’t as good as we think it is. Prior to WWII sure.
December 19th, 2020 at 12:48 PM ^
What about Fitzgerald? That dude does a hell of a lot more with less than any other coach
December 19th, 2020 at 12:50 PM ^
He should be a top 5 candidate.
December 19th, 2020 at 12:54 PM ^
He's not leaving his alma mater. He'll have a 30-year career there.
December 19th, 2020 at 12:59 PM ^
If the Bears job comes open, I think he'll definitely look at that. His big thing is that he doesn't want to disrupt his family especially when his kids are in school. Well a job with the Bears would solve that.
December 19th, 2020 at 1:08 PM ^
Maybe that one job.
But otherwise, why leave NU? He went 3-9 (1-8 in conference) last year and no one gave him a hard time. He has job security other coaches dream of. He's already in his 15th season now.
I could see him ultimately setting all kinds of Big Ten records and retiring with 200+ wins.
December 19th, 2020 at 1:59 PM ^
Encouraging anecdote at least that he went from 3-9 in 2019 to the conference championship in 2020. I know it takes the right set of circumstances, but at least we know if can be done.
December 19th, 2020 at 1:08 PM ^
Maybe we take both the DC and the OC.
December 19th, 2020 at 1:28 PM ^
We had already asked for NW permission to interview Fitzgerald when we did the coach search that got us JH. He’s staying put.
December 19th, 2020 at 1:34 PM ^
he would be foolish to leave. he can be there for life. he gets paid well enough and very little pressure there.
December 19th, 2020 at 1:45 PM ^
I have zero clue why Allen was B1G coach of the year instead of Fitz. Make no sense at all.
December 19th, 2020 at 1:49 PM ^
He's in a tougher division.
December 19th, 2020 at 3:46 PM ^
Outside of OSU the East Division was pretty bad this year.
December 19th, 2020 at 2:35 PM ^
Any coach from Northwestern would be an improvement We have more talent across the board then they do and look how tough they are playing OSU. They know how to coach up there kids
December 19th, 2020 at 2:54 PM ^
But they lost to MSU this year so shouldn’t they all be gone?
December 19th, 2020 at 5:27 PM ^
Yep. Thread didn't age well. I'm not interested in giving up 400 on the ground to OSU annually.
December 19th, 2020 at 9:09 PM ^
Exactly, you go all in on Fitzgerald or go home.
December 19th, 2020 at 12:36 PM ^
He's 73 and has been with Northwestern since 2008. At this point his next stop is retirement.
Edit: Actually he is retiring
December 19th, 2020 at 1:13 PM ^
Great link and great career story about the Wildcats DC and former Michigan Wolverine Mike Hankwitz. Well worth the read, I highly recommend taking a look.
December 19th, 2020 at 12:37 PM ^
Their real DC is probably Fitzgerald himself.
December 19th, 2020 at 12:58 PM ^
I would bet that Hankwitz and Fitzgerald have a real good, cooperative working relationship, unlike, say, Harbaugh and Gattis.
December 19th, 2020 at 1:13 PM ^
Gattis is apparently coming back for a third year, so his relationship with Harbaugh can't be all that bad. But I'd bet that Fitz and Hankwitz are philosophically more on the same page.
December 19th, 2020 at 12:38 PM ^
He is retiring after this season ?. And why would we take him? This is Michigan and would should have the money to get a high end d coordinator.
December 19th, 2020 at 12:38 PM ^
My eight ball says: doubtful
December 19th, 2020 at 12:38 PM ^
I believe they talked about the guy retiring after this season. He's apparently been a defensive coordinator for many years.
December 19th, 2020 at 12:40 PM ^
He’s a former M player and M grad assistant under Bo. And yes, retiring after season.
December 19th, 2020 at 12:42 PM ^
Pat Fitzgerald is happy at Northwestern
December 19th, 2020 at 12:44 PM ^
Should we take their o coordinator too?
December 19th, 2020 at 12:47 PM ^
December 19th, 2020 at 1:25 PM ^
The Wildcats’ wildcat is wild, cats.
December 19th, 2020 at 12:45 PM ^
Retiring after this year. 50 years of coaching.