Cade's passing in second half--not as bad as it looked?

Submitted by TomJ on September 27th, 2021 at 11:11 AM

First, disclaimers: I'm not a football expert. I never played, nor coached. I'm just a fan who watches the game closely, sometimes in the presence of people who are far more knowledgeable than I. If I am wrong I will gladly admit it and am eager to have it explained to me.

Several threads have speculated that Cade's 1/5 on his last 5 throws was due either to the effects of the targeting hit he took, or his tendency to fold under pressure. Maybe those things are true; I don't know. But maybe instead of those explanations, or in addition to them, it looked worse than it was. 

https://youtu.be/CNsZjvIcd48?t=366
1st and goal, right before halftime, 10 seconds on the clock. Schoonmaker slips and almost falls on his face as he comes off the line and Cade's pass is far in front of him. Could the inaccurate pass have been due to the slip? With just 10 seconds on the clock, Cade must have been under instructions to let it go on time, so maybe this was just bad luck.

https://youtu.be/CNsZjvIcd48?t=377
1st and 10 from their own 34, middle of 3rd quarter. This is a very good throw to the sideline which gains 8 yards. Ball is low so there's no way the defender could break and make a play.

https://youtu.be/CNsZjvIcd48?t=407
1st and 10 from their own 21, start of 4th quarter. Pass is low, but Sanistril gets his hands on it and should probably have caught it. I don't think this throw was as bad as it looked. Maybe Cade was trying to keep the ball low to avoid a big hit from #5 who was closing fast. Maybe I'm just looking at it with rose-colored glasses.

https://youtu.be/CNsZjvIcd48?t=419
2nd and 10 from same spot. Incomplete over the middle. Either this was a terrible throw because All was wide open, or miscommunication, with Cade expecting All to sit down instead of continuing his route. If All sits down this is right on the money and a big gain.

https://youtu.be/CNsZjvIcd48?t=431
This wasn't actually a pass attempt, but at least it was a called pass. 3rd and 10 from same spot. Flushed from the pocket by a 3-man rush (this was the problem!), Cade scrambles for a short gain. From my view I didn't see any other options since receivers appeared covered.

https://youtu.be/CNsZjvIcd48?t=465
3rd and 5 from their own 25, middle of the 4th quarter. Incomplete pass to sideline. I'm not 100% sure this is on Cade. He hesitates before throwing, and I think he expected Henning to cut the route off sharper and aim for the sticks. Instead, Henning rounds off his break and heads for a spot 5 yards downfield of the marker. Cade's throw, which he makes as Henning is in his break, goes right to the marker and is safely low.

Eastside Maize

September 27th, 2021 at 12:03 PM ^

It was bad. He throws off his backfoot and doesn’t go towards the target. Unless a pass is tipped, there is no reason Cade should be 2 hopping the ball to receivers doing a 5 yard out.

energyblue1

September 27th, 2021 at 1:09 PM ^

If you are referring to the 5yd out by AJ Henning, that is equally if not more on Henning for a bad route.  He rounds the cut instead of a precise cut.  He is also drifting out further by another two yards.  

The Throw was short but an accurate route and AJ could have come back for the ball or got down for it as it would have been at his feet.  Still a Bad throw but also a bad route.  Imo this is fundamentals and timing as well as play calling.  For a passing game that didn't have a ton of timing which is what happens when you're at the end of a game and thrown 15 or so passes...  you literally have no timing.  Thus, given the alignment and defender lined up off the ball that should have been a quick slant and no lber to bat the ball..  Instead throw a timing route on a 5yd out... 

Golden section

September 27th, 2021 at 12:09 PM ^

1st and goal, right before halftime, Schoonmaker slips and Cade's pass is far in front of him. Could the inaccurate pass have been due to the slip?

No, McNamara is looking right at him. Schoonmaker is 4 yards deeper than the defender and in front. A little more air and a little less in front. That is totally on Cade whether it's a timing play or not.

Passes 2 and 3 weren't great but catchable. The ball was in front of All so not sure watch you are seeing there.

This wasn't actually a pass attempt,  3rd and 10 from same spot. Flushed from the pocke, Cade scrambles for a short gain. I didn't see any other options since receivers appeared covered.

Not sure what you are watching. Corum is the check-down guy 8 yards up field. When Cade starts to scramble the lb leaves Corum and rushes the QB. A short easy pass and that could have been a huge gain. 

Cade seem like a one read guy right now. Honestly watching this makes me feel worse about the passing game. 

 

TomJ

September 27th, 2021 at 3:28 PM ^

On the scramble play, Corum is 3-5 yards behind the LOS. Cade would have to throw across his body, while on the run, and even then Corum would have to beat a couple of guys to make a 1st. Pretty risky through IMO. Cade probably thought for an instant he could make it to the sticks, and by the time he realized he was wrong he was past the LOS.

I'm not going to die on this hill, because an accurate pass to Corum would probably have picked up the first down (and more--Corum!) but I can see why Cade didn't want to take the risk.

energyblue1

September 27th, 2021 at 12:17 PM ^

Working backwards..

3rd and 5, Cade throws an out pattern to AJ Henning, this is where route running and timing is very important.  AJ rounds that route rather than a hard cut to the out.  Didn't set his route well and wastes a couple steps drifting out.  The throw likely complete with a good route from Henning.  Why are our WR's still not running precise routes?   WHY...........why.. why.. 

    Note, on this play call given the defense, it should have been a slant or under route.  Out route is much harder to throw for a QB/REC that don't have great timing.  This looks like AJ and McNamara need to work on this a ton!  LSU, Joe Burrow and the Summer of 1000 throws..  AJ will never be an elite receiver if he doesn't run precise routes! 

The pass before, the 3 man rush crushed the oline, what were they doing?  Also, Cade flushed and hard to know without the coaches film to judge what was down field.  Ended up being a solid pick up by Cade, i call this a win when 8 were dropped into coverage and he still had to scramble....  bad for the oline on protection. 

2nd and 10 throw to All, this was a missed throw, not by much.  Just off enough, led a bit to much that All couldn't get to it.    He wasn't expecting All to sit down as he cuts behind the defender to the inside.  Just a missed throw.  Timing did seem a half second off as he waited to throw till All cleared his defender when he should have seen the defender couldn't react to All's cut. 

1st and 10 from own 21 throw to Sainristil, This was the play right before the last one, Sainristil should have caught this ball and didn't sell out to get it.  Low yes, very catchable.  A better throw hits an in stride Sainristil  is a first down and possibly a lot more if he is able to beat the other defender. 

Jumping to the first and goal, The slip might have affected it but it shouldn't have.  Cade put a little to much juice on that throw for no reason.   That's a touch pass every time due to how wide open he is.  Take a tad off on that throw and it's a TD.  I thought the TE recovered well after the slip.  There was no defender back and they couldn't have recovered to defend the pass.  Little touch tiny bit less zip and it's a TD putting the game away going into the 2nd half... jmo. 

 

Just my nonprofessional analysis.  Passing game has no rhythm and that's likely why they tried the back to back passes to get the passing game going.  Hard to get qb's and receivers in rhythm when they don't operate.  This is why I wanted them to run the passing offense last week more than they did.  It's not fair to ask them to bail out the offense when the run game is struggling.  And the run game struggled because we didn't force Rutgers to defend the entire field, horizontally or vertically.  Didn't attack the edges, didn't attack them throwing.  

Offense needs greater balance for success.  Needs to throw somewhere around 25 times per game regardless of how well the run game is going.  These receivers and the qb need bones thrown to them as well. 

WR and Routes, timing matters and AJ Henning needs to be a big part of the passing game.  Don't care what anyone thinks when I say this.  It was my big issue with Pattersn / Black / DJP..  run better routes, precise routes now practice them with the qb.   AJ Henning is the best athlete on the team and needs to be running routes daily and the coaches need him to have timing with either qb! 

Moleskyn

September 27th, 2021 at 12:21 PM ^

Actually, after looking at these clips (and hearing some of Devin Gardner's commentary on this morning's MMQB), I don't think Cade was making the right reads.

Based on your clips:

  1. Despite Schoonmaker's slip, he was still open. Pass should have been there. HOWEVA, Erick All was also wide open and was a safer throw. Cade missed it.
  2. The throw to Baldwin was fine, but if you freeze it at 6:24, Cade is still scanning the field looking for a throw. Schoonmaker is WIDE OPEN crossing the field and would have had a big gain if Cade had thrown it. Hard to be too down on Cade on this play since he completed a pass, but MAN. Blown opportunity, not sure what he was seeing.
  3. Not a great pass, but agreed that Sainristil should have caught it.
  4. I think this was a bad pass to All. Should have been there. HOWEVA, freeze it this time at 7:06. Again, Cade is scanning the field and Schoonmaker is again WIDE OPEN, and it even seems that Cade is looking right at him. That was a case of taking what the defense is giving you, rather than trying to force the ball down field. All was still open, so it wasn't a terrible decision, but again, had an open guy for an easy completion and he just didn't throw the ball.
  5. Tough to see this OL give up a pressure on a 3-man rush. Cade made the right call to bail out and scramble, but he had an opportunity to throw it over the defender's head to Corum! Would have been a first down.
  6. Gotta have that throw.

On closer look, this reflects more on Cade than on Gattis to me. At least in terms of having open receivers to throw to. Guys were open, Cade was either not seeing them or not hitting the throws in the second half. 

Now, maybe that reflects on Gattis in terms of what he's coaching Cade to be looking for. Hard to say. But in a game where he needed some easy completions to gain yards and build confidence, he left opportunities on the field. 

Blue@LSU

September 27th, 2021 at 12:48 PM ^

I think this was a bad pass to All. Should have been there. HOWEVA, freeze it this time at 7:06. Again, Cade is scanning the field and Schoonmaker is again WIDE OPEN, and it even seems that Cade is looking right at him. That was a case of taking what the defense is giving you, rather than trying to force the ball down field. All was still open, so it wasn't a terrible decision, but again, had an open guy for an easy completion and he just didn't throw the ball.

But then freeze it again at 7:07. It looks like they are playing zone. So Schoonmaker was open at first, but then All's defender drops him to cover the area where Schoonmaker is headed. He probably would've been hit at about a 5 yard gain if he had caught the ball.

Then All breaks open once the defender abandons him to stay in his zone. All found a nice hole in the defense and it looks like a blown coverage by either the LB not playing deep enough or the safety not coming up to cover.

I think Cade made a good read here, just couldn't put the pass where it needed to be. He may also have rushed the pass because Vastardis was about to get beat on his block and the defender was almost in his face.  

Moleskyn

September 27th, 2021 at 1:15 PM ^

But then freeze it again at 7:07. It looks like they are playing zone. So Schoonmaker was open at first, but then All's defender drops him to cover the area where Schoonmaker is headed. He probably would've been hit at about a 5 yard gain if he had caught the ball.

That's my point though. I would have taken the easy throw for 5 yards, and at least given Schoonmaker a chance to break a tackle and extend it. But beyond that, for someone who needed some rhythm and some quick wins, that easy throw could have helped.

That said, I did recognize that ultimately, All was open and it wasn't a bad read to target him:

All was still open, so it wasn't a terrible decision, but again, had an open guy for an easy completion and he just didn't throw the ball.

Bottom line, whichever way you slice it, it was a bad play for Cade. He had an easy throw he could have made that would have given the offense a 3rd and manageable at worst (or a first down at best). The throw he did make, he missed.

I do want to say, amidst all this negativity toward Cade, I am not advocating to bench him. He was legitimately bad in the second half, but that alone is not justification to bench him for JJ. I think the optimistic take is that guys are getting open, and hopefully he develops to recognize where the open guys are, as well as making consistently accurate throws.

Blue@LSU

September 27th, 2021 at 1:22 PM ^

I wasn't trying to say you were wrong, just that I think he made a good read here. Going to either receiver would've been fine, but All was a better choice IMO because it was beyond the sticks and wide open. And I do think his pass was probably rushed once Vastardis got beat on his block.

And I agree 100% with sticking with Cade. JJ has shown some good stuff against Western and N. Illinois, but it's not a good idea to throw him into the fire against Wisconsin. Cade has shown that he can make the throws and makes good decisions with the ball. Hopefully the timing and accuracy improves.

HollywoodHokeHogan

September 27th, 2021 at 12:26 PM ^

You keep saying he’s throwing the ball low to be “safe.”  While throwing the ball two feet above the ground does make it less likely to be intercepted, it accomplishes that by making hard for anyone to catch it, including the receiver.  I don’t think trying to skip the ball off a receivers foot is an intentional strategy.

M-Dog

September 27th, 2021 at 12:36 PM ^

Wisconsin's offense sucks.  But their defense was born to stop the offense that Harbaugh wants to run.

Will Harbaugh adjust and run the offense he needs to run, not just the offense he wants to run?

The amount of scotch left in your bottle of Glenlivet by the fourth quarter will answer that question.

 

M-Dog

September 27th, 2021 at 12:50 PM ^

Yeah, it's really odd.  It's not like the offensive staff has been uniformly bad all the time.  They have shown some flashes where they are able to identify and call what works. 

Then they just . . . stop.

I would love to be in some of the meetings and hear why.

 

 

I Like Burgers

September 27th, 2021 at 2:25 PM ^

My guess is that Michigan is and has been able to be good at 1-2 things offensively.  When other defenses can identify those things and stop them, Michigan doesn't have the talent and/or scheme to adjust.

The Rutgers game was a good example of that.  Ran the ball down their throats on the opening drive. Rutgers adjusted, and then Michigan didn't have a counter and struggled to run the rest of the game.

Michigan either expected to be able to run on them like that all game, and that's all they schemed for.  Or, once Rutgers adjusted they just don't have the talent to be able to attack downfield to open the run game back up and were limited by what they could do offensively.

That, and there's a sizeable amount of Lloydball in Harbaugh's DNA where he gets a lead and then just turtles and refuses to attack out of fear of turning the ball over.

butuka21

September 27th, 2021 at 12:30 PM ^

I like Cade, and I know everyone's favorite player is the backup QB, but now is the time to play JJ in some form or capacity.  I am no expert, but we have not had a difference maker at QB since forever, and that is a huge reason why we can't beat ohio.  I believe JJ to be that guy.  IF your plan is to run the ball 80% of the time, then why don't you get him in there.  I was only able to watch some of the 3rd and 4th quarter.  On the drive that I did get to see, Cade threw two consecutive balls that hit our receivers in the hands.  Those need to be caught. 

Pumafb

September 27th, 2021 at 12:31 PM ^

Throw 1 - Horrendous throw. Has nothing to do with the almost slip. Cade's arm slot is terrible and he throws a bad ball because of it. This should have been a touchdown. A competent QB puts this ball on him.

Throw 2 - The throw is low, but not completely terrible. I'm fine with it.

Throw 3 - Another terrible throw. Regardless if he catches this or not, it's a short crossing route and needs to give him a chance to catch and run. No excuse for throwing a dirt ball here. 

Throw 4 - It's a terrible throw. There is no miscommunication. Cade short arms it. If he puts that on him, it's a catch with yards after.

Throw 5 - Doesn't matter. He ran

Throw 6 - Another bad throw he short arms. I don't mind this being down and away a little, but he is short on top of it. We have separation here. Get the ball to a catchable spot. Deep outs are possibly the hardest throw to make, but a Michigan QB should be able to make them. 

Pumafb

September 27th, 2021 at 2:37 PM ^

I did. The throw before he needed to drop his slot down to get the ball through the window he had. On this throw it was not needed. It was a very bad throw to a blazingly wide open TE. The QB's in our program, like almost all, miss badly for 1 of 2 reasons. Either their feet are not right or their slot isn't right.

TeslaRedVictorBlue

September 27th, 2021 at 12:35 PM ^

you give your qb 5 chances to do well in an entire half. he hits on 1 pass. so you pack it up and go uber-conservative. that doesnt speak to confidence in your offensive game plan or your QB. Cade threw for 19902843 yards in hs - he's not milton. Yet, they appear to be turning him into milton.

Moleskyn

September 27th, 2021 at 1:26 PM ^

This is a bad take. He had limited chances in the second half because they couldn't buy a first down, so they didn't run many plays overall. They actually tried throwing the ball and were pretty balanced.

Here's a recap of the 2nd-half drives:

  1. Drive #1
    • Run (gain of 3)
    • Penalty (false start)
    • Pass (incomplete)
    • Run (gain of 2)
    • Punt
  2. Drive #2
    • Pass (complete, gain of 7)
    • Run (gain of 2)
    • Run (no gain)
    • Penalty (delay of game)
    • Penalty (false start)
    • Punt
  3. Drive #3
    • Pass (incomplete)
    • Pass (incomplete)
    • Pass (resulted in a scramble for 7 yards)
    • Punt
  4. Drive #4
    • Run (gain of 1)
    • Run (gain of 4)
    • Pass (incomplete)
    • Punt
  5. Drive #5
    • Run (gain of 9)
    • Run (gain of 6)
    • Run (gain of 2)
    • Run (no gain, but facemask on Rutgers)
    • Run (gain of 3)
    • Run (no gain)
    • Run (loss of 2)
    • Missed FG
  6. Drive #6 - kneel-down possession

Drive #5 was justifiably run-heavy because it was late and there was value in burning as much clock as possible. Prior to that drive, Gattis gave Cade plenty of opportunities and nothing clicked. And that's why we're now spending time dissecting the passing game in the second half.

Moleskyn

September 27th, 2021 at 5:29 PM ^

Through the first 4 drives of the second half, Michigan ran 12 offensive plays. Of those, 6 were designed passes. That's an exact 50/50 split. If you want this team to be an air raid, I don't know what to tell you.

If they had actually moved the ball and been able to execute more plays, they would have ended up with more chances to throw. That's why I said your initial take was bad; you focused on a secondary measure. The low number of pass attempts in the second half was more due to the lack of total plays run than anything else.

energyblue1

September 27th, 2021 at 2:52 PM ^

They hadn't been balanced from this point.  Not in the first half at all.  And the second half, agree they couldn't get a drive going so they opened with two passes in the 3rd possession.  First pass of this drive should have been caught for a first down by Sainristil.  Low but he could have caught it and still would have had the 1st down.  2nd Pass, just led All a bit too much, not many would catch that pass.  3rd was the scramble for 7yds.  Horrible protection 3 man rush and Cade had to scramble after 2 seconds.  Still, open receivers and he ran the ball.  But overall 7yd gain but at this point what's going on and Harbaugh now needed to be on the line with Gattis/Weiss/Cade and company about the next drive and manufacturing yards and first downs to get points. 

It's just impossible to get into a rhythm when a QB throws 11 times a half and less than 20 times a game!  Then when the bread and butter isn't working say bail us out.  It's not fair at all. 

Lets also get on the receivers for letting the ball hit the turf and rounding routes. 

Lets address play calling, goal line to end the first half should have had a plan to get 3 plays in with that time left and still a couple seconds for the 4th and a time out. 

Play calling, 3rd and 5 and they call a 5yd out, timing route to Henning?  Henning rounded the route as well as drifted out another 2yds, that's horrible for an out route.  Has to be cut hard, has to set a defender to keep them on their heels so they can't break on the throw.  Has to have their head flipped on the cut looking for the ball to get there.  This was a bad play all around.  Timing and rhythm clearly wasn't there.  It should look like they ran it 1000's of times this off season and it looked like they put it in this week.. 

BlueSky

September 27th, 2021 at 12:35 PM ^

Completely agree on the consecutive throws to Sainristil and All.  Both balls hit the receivers hands and while moderately difficult catches, they should be made.  Hands have been an issue before.  
 

I want to see CJ and Baldwin featured more.  They haven’t had hands issues.

saveferris

September 27th, 2021 at 12:44 PM ^

The passing in the 2nd half wasn't really the problem.  It was the 35 yards rushing that was the problem.  We did a pretty lousy job making yards rushing between the tackles on 1st and 2nd down and if you're facing 3rd and long all the time, your conversion rate is not going to be great.

M-Dog

September 27th, 2021 at 12:53 PM ^

Perhaps we should have stopped rushing between the tackles against a team that was selling out to stop that, and proved by the second half that they indeed could.

Admit it, we all had a little thought in our heads after three games that we tried to suppress that whispered: "We have a historically good running game.  We can run on anybody any time. It does not matter how they defend us."

Well, we can kiss that shit goodbye.

 

TeslaRedVictorBlue

September 27th, 2021 at 12:54 PM ^

Just to be clear. we threw the ball 5 times and netted 7 yards in the 2nd half, and that's not a problem, in isolation? If you can't run, then shouldnt you at least be able to be somewhat competent at throwing if you're at a big time school in a big time conference? It shouldnt be entirely on the run offense to be able to throw. Seems like a shitty gameplan.

Passing doesnt REQUIRE running. That's what teams that cannot pass say. Running opens up passing lanes and exposes a defense that crowds the line. But, not this offense. If running fails, you have to have some other options to get yards - can't just be.. OH WELL. becuase im pretty sure MSU, wisky, osu, and psu are going to rutgers us to death and they have much better players to do so.. nastier too.

GRBluefan

September 27th, 2021 at 12:47 PM ^

I appreciate the analysis and the time & effort which went into it, but i'm sure we could go back and dissect every Michigan QB over the past 20 years and find a lot instances where there is shared blame for poor performance.  But at the end of the day, it is poor performance and it needs to be better.  In the second half, he had an incredibly happy set of feet...with totally clean pockets his feet were bouncing all over the place and he just looked flat out jittery.  Maybe there was a good reason, maybe not, but it was definitely a problem.

True Blue Grit

September 27th, 2021 at 1:26 PM ^

Great point about the interceptions.  But if he's being overly cautious in achieving that and not willing to take any chances, our passing game will never become what it needs to be for us to win a conference championship.  Great QB's don't sit back and dink and dunk the whole game, or only just look for wide open receivers with no one near them.  

RXwolverine

September 27th, 2021 at 12:54 PM ^

Why are we always making excuses for the inept plays of our team? Harbaugh needs to be held accountable. The team he has fielded this season has many problems and they are about to be exposed if they don’t make some changes. If Cade is the guy harbaugh his hanging his job on then so be it. But if this season fails (9-3 or worse) then he needs to be canned. 

joeismyname

September 27th, 2021 at 3:13 PM ^

So 9-3, which was pipe dream optimism 4 weeks ago, is now a fireable offense? 
 

look, l will be as frustrated as any with any loss and lack of better passing attack, but there were many preseason projections of 5-7, 6-6 for this team (which I think would be better conversation for firing Harbaugh)

abertain

September 27th, 2021 at 1:04 PM ^

The offense isn't productively using PAP. That is the most effective play in football. They did use it for a couple of gains in the first half, but you have a limited package in this game. Why do you not run some end around? Why not screens? Then you can fake the inside give and end around and give those receivers time and space? It's like once JG loses the flow of the game he doesn't have another answer, but this has been the case for years. 

The best offense under Harbaugh was in 2016. I think that offense incorporated the run and pass game well. This team has a better run game, but it's not linked to the passing game. They seem to either be passing or running, which takes away the advantage of calling plays. 

Honestly, I don't think JG has it. I'd love to see Michigan politely move on at the end of the year, move Bellamy to receiver coach and try and get more juice in the offense and more connectivity  between run and pass game. 

PeteM

September 27th, 2021 at 1:09 PM ^

I'm still in the pro-Cade camp.  He was great last years against a Rutgers team that won 3 Big Ten games, very good this year against NIU and WMU, and good in the first half Saturday.  That's not a massive data set, but includes still more good than bad.  In my history a Michigan fan quarterbacks who aren't spectacular physical talents (Griese, Rudock, 2016 Speight) can be very successful if that are accurate and put the ball in the right place.

DrewGreg

September 27th, 2021 at 1:12 PM ^

I think your arguments above are fine - but you are indeed looking through rose-colored glasses. The good news here is that the plays are there. Guys are open and good routes are being run (for the most part). The bad news is that on all 4 of the incompletions you tagged above, the reason for the incompletion is a bad throw from Cade. Whether his double pumping and then throwing or a little too bouncy - all 4 of those throws should have gone for big gains or a score. They were all bad, but the two throws to the TEs were especially bad. The miss to Schoonmacher in the end zone is inexcusable and shaped the complexion of the rest of the game. And the next miss on an absolutely wide open All is certainly not the receiver's fault as you suggest.

joeismyname

September 27th, 2021 at 3:30 PM ^

The other good news though is that in the overall larger sample size (not one half with 5 throws) Cade has been mostly good and not turned the ball over. 
 

I don’t think every half is going to involve the other team possessing the ball for 75% of it and us only having like 18 snaps. Also, Cade has proved otherwise he can hit those throws and that will also help open up the rushing attack….also, i have to believe we will attack the edge more in the future as well (hoping)

DrewGreg

September 28th, 2021 at 9:26 AM ^

Absolutely. It's possible that Cade had his bell rung a bit and that made him a bit more indecisive. I don't think Cade is Milton or O'Korn, but if he even completes half of the throws the OP talked about - the game looks different. I think the optimist's take is that it's good to get this type of game out of way against an inferior opponent. I would expect to see a sharper performance on Saturday. 

TSimpson77

September 27th, 2021 at 1:15 PM ^

After the roughing the passer call, Cade's footwork turned to crap. He got happy feet and couldn't put a drive on the ball. I'm 100% sure that Wisconsin will see the same thing and like the past 3 years will be head hunting quarterbacks

MFanWM

September 27th, 2021 at 1:23 PM ^

Without having a defined understanding on the route (e.g. reads to sit-down in zone, etc), it looked a bit like some slight misses, but my memory in watching the game was that it appeared Cade  was not stepping into all of his throws which led to slinging the ball a bit more 3/4 or sidearmed than normal. 

Many of those just felt a bit like a small slice on a golf drive as the best direct example I could think of, so my unprofessional read is that slightly better routes and cleaning up a few mechanics should clean those up fairly quickly.

chronic

September 27th, 2021 at 1:30 PM ^

Interesting perspective and some of it seems feasible.

And, unfortunately, Sainristil just isn't good at catching footballs.

And that playcalling is barfola...