Bill Connelly on Army's cut blocking & NCAA rule changes

Submitted by Communist Football on September 5th, 2019 at 11:54 AM

In 2018, the NCAA responded to complaints about cut blocking in the triple option offense by barring blocks below the waist 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage. This led Army to receive more 15-yard penalties for illegal blocks in 2018 than they had received in previous seasons.

That season, Bill Connelly posted a great analysis of the rule changes and the NCAA politics around player safety and cut blocking.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/9/18/17873532/ncaa-cut-block-rule-army-navy-air-force-georgia-tech

Connelly's bottom line:

Every team uses at least a few option principles, but six FBS teams have primarily run the triple option in recent years. Four — Army, Navy, Air Force, and Georgia Tech — have been more committed than anyone else to the flexbone. Offensive success rates for those four:

  • 2017: 46.5 percent
  • 2018: 44.3 percent, while facing lots of weak defenses through Week 3

The difference gets starker if you just include the service academies. It gets less stark if you throw in New Mexico and Georgia Southern, which run somewhat different offenses.

So far, there appears to be a slight dip under the expanded rules. We’ll see if it becomes a long-term trend. If it does, the different blocking requirements will have played a role.

Denard In Space

September 5th, 2019 at 12:06 PM ^

i've always wondered how teams that cut block like this avoid serious injuries to themselves and other teams. just seems like that technique, no matter how well-practiced, runs the risk of taking out a knee. maybe an actual football person can explain more about it? 

Robbie Moore

September 5th, 2019 at 12:09 PM ^

Not sure what the hell the OP is saying but it really is simple. They dive at players knees. That may not be a deliberate intent to injure but that doesn't matter much if it's your knees getting cut  Officials should fucking enforce the rules. 

madtadder

September 5th, 2019 at 12:13 PM ^

They're saying that since the NCAA changed the rule to be more inclusive of cut blocking penalties, those teams have had less offensive success (or at least, they did through part of last season). Here's a decent writeup before last season about what changed: https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/8/30/17472936/block-below-waist-rule-ncaa

FatGuyTouchdown

September 5th, 2019 at 1:40 PM ^

You have no idea what you're talking about. Cutting isn't just diving at the knees, and you can still cut within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. You could never just run up on someone and dive from the side. And there's no statistical evidence whatsoever that a proper cut block is more dangerous than a regular block. Football is a dangerous game, and somehow teams that play Army, Navy, and Air Force don't have half of their DL go to the injury report the following week.

Hold This L

September 5th, 2019 at 12:21 PM ^

The coaches in there, spcecifically the GT coach says blocking below the waist is no more dangerous if it’s done within 5 yards or beyond 5 yards. I agree if the difference is like a foot or two or even a yard. But the difference between 2 yards downfield and 8 yards is significant. The blockers are building up more speed when they dive at the defenders legs. So that statement I disagree with. 

CRISPed in the DIAG

September 5th, 2019 at 12:34 PM ^

Pretty much this. When you're playing on the line most of the 200 thoughts flying through your head are dealing with where the hit is coming from. Someone rolling at your legs isn't a huge surprise. Upfield, you're focusing on the assignment and only mildly concerned about a block coming from a non-play side.

passwordishail

September 5th, 2019 at 12:23 PM ^

The last thing we need right now is another DT getting dinged-up on full-fledged hurt due cut blocking.

I am also skeptical of Dwumfour playing in this game, despite assurances from coaches this week that he is "good to go." On O'Hara's TD run in the first quarter last week, Dwumfour was one of the two guys who got to O'Hara before O'Hara was able to escape. Part of the reason he was able to escape was due to Dwumfour coming out of the scrum really clutching hard at a hand / arm (1:33 - 1:36 of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OVPzFtjKHo).

 

It's hard to see on the right edge of the frame, but Dwumfour looked to be hurt and if memory serves me correctly (haven't made it thru a full re-watch yet) did not return to the game. I am nervous about his health for this season and how much he is actually able to play. 

reshp1

September 5th, 2019 at 12:42 PM ^

Harbaugh overall has been surprisingly candid when talking about injuries. It's that he declines to answer a lot that gives him the reputation of of being misleading, but when he actually answers, it's usually accurate. 

TheCube

September 5th, 2019 at 12:32 PM ^

STOP. PLAYING. SERVICE. ACADEMIES. 

You can celebrate your pseudo-jingoistic pregame festivities against another tomato can where the military can be invited for free etc. 

 

hammermw

September 5th, 2019 at 12:45 PM ^

As someone who was an undersized OL in high school, I used to cut block all of the time. If done properly, you aren't diving at the person's knees. It's more at their ankles. Just trying to trip them up. I'm not saying that there aren't people taught to take out knees, but that certainly isn't how I was instructed.

For me, it was very effective tool in dealing with DT's much larger and stronger than I was. There was definitely an art to it. Have to time it right so they don't just jump over you. I would bet if you watched these teams closely, you would notice that more often than not, they aren't going after the knees.

UMAmaizinBlue

September 5th, 2019 at 1:53 PM ^

Thanks for the insight. Your point brings to light how this can work without intent to injure. I still hate the practice as the alternatives on a miss are 1) you lose and your QB gets pressured or 2) you cut the knees, increasing risk of injury. To me, any technique where 2/3 of the outcome options are failure doesn't seem sound.

MotownGoBlue

September 5th, 2019 at 2:25 PM ^

The OLine may not always be targeting the knees but they end up as collateral damage with this type of blocking.

Once a player lowers his helmet, dives, or leaves his feet to block, his vision and trajectory aren’t always clear...simply diving at someone with the intention of cutting them down is not a proper way to block, imo. 

reshp1

September 5th, 2019 at 3:00 PM ^

For one, knees injuries aren't on the level of seriousness as head injuries. They can end careers, but head injuries can ruin lives.

For two, a cut block isn't that dangerous as long as both players play with sound technique. It's not really any different than trying to tackle someone low. Occasionally, you have things like the Newsome injury happen because he just happened to be planting that leg as it's being cut and hyperextending the knee while it's under load, but generally the defender is unweighting his legs and trying to shove the cut blocker down with his arms. Where it's dangerous is where he's engaged with someone else and can't unweight his legs, but that's why such a block (chop block) is illegal.

BBQJeff

September 5th, 2019 at 3:19 PM ^

Air Force runs the same offense and utilizes the same cut blocking scheme as Army.  We played them in 2017 and didn't suffer any D-line injuries.  

kcc

September 5th, 2019 at 6:07 PM ^

Are there any stats on what the increase (if any) in injury rate is for teams playing triple option teams / flexbone offenses vs. any other types of offense?