Big Ten teams were allowed to schedule OOC games this week?
I thought I heard Jim Delany say that Big Ten teams were allowed to schedule Out of Conference games for this week because of the early Big Ten finish, but none did.
Am I confused, or was that the actual policy?
In any case, what are the restrictions on inter-team scrimmages when the CBB season is still technically going on?
Can players/coaches from a non conference team that is completely done with its season play in a scrimmage against Michigan, even an informal one?
I guess that Beilein and the rest of the Big ten coaches would rather have the extra rest and internal practice, but I'm curious what all the options were.
We want Radford! *clap clap clap*
Can anyone call Next?
Well, Trey, THJr, Nik, GR3 are still pretty busy, but I heard Mitch is READY!
I thought the same thing after game. If I were a coach, and it were legal, I would entertain asking another school to scrimmage later this week. Two weeks off is a long break before playing again.
Yes - a scrimmage is exactly what I was thinking this morning too. Even with MSU - why not? Don't keep score.
Would you trust Izzo's team to play cleanly in a non-scored scrimmage against Michigan?
claiming that they did win.
to report it that way
I get the worries but they aren't going to want to travel far that's for sure. This would work if no one is juvenile about it. WOOPS - I see the flaw now.
ZERO interest in playing the spartoons in anything that's "a friendly" -
That's just not how I feel about them!
think there are a lot of variables that go into the effect it will have on certain teams. For us, it cuts both ways. Yeah, we have momentum right now and it would be nice to keep playing, but we sure as hell would be playing without Livers. It is possible that the two weeks gets him back to nearly full health.
Additionally, those guys played HARD at the BTT and I know that conventional "fatigue" is not that much of a thing when you are 19 and 20 years old, but at some point you do still burn out mentally. I think that the second round of the NCAA may have been a problem for us if this were a conventional year.
In this way, it helps that we have played ourselves into a higher seed, because whatever rust there is will probably not be enough to be an issue against a 13 or 14 seed. And then we could be getting our flow back just in time to play the more difficult second game of the first weekend.
All in all, I think that the extra week off will result in us having to sweat through one half of ugly basketball against a hapless foe in a "closer than it should be" type game in the opening round. However, I think our second weekend chances are, on balance, aided by the time off.
If any team had chosen to have empty weeks at the beginning of the season, they probably could have scheduled games this week. But every other conference plays according to the calendar. Most of the mid-major and above are playing their tournaments this week. Only a program like Sparty would want to play a team that ended up 8 games behind Lipscomb.
All of the other big conferences have their tournaments this week. So I don't know who Big Ten teams would play.
I don't think teams from smaller conferences would want to get beat up right before tournament time. That would be a real confidence killer for a team that could be headed to the NCAA tourney.
It doesn't need to be a big ten conference team or major conference. Just a team whose season is over and is fresh blood. Could even be an Ivy League team or whatever. Get Michigan to scrimmage against a team with different sets so they dont know whats coming. Plus the freash blood of the other team will likely bring out more competition than against your own team.
I doubt any team who just lost in their conference tournament to end the season is going to call their players together to go get the shit kicked out of them by a B1G school that is headed to the tourney. That would be pouring salt into your players wounds.
I disagree. Take an Ivy team who didn't make their conference tournament (only top 4 do), as well as a team who brings only their players coming back for next year...and I think their players would be up to the challenge of playing a closed door game against the hottest team in the country. Also if I were the coach of another team, I'd use the opportunity to give some younger players an opportunity.
I guess we will agree to disagree then. From the Ivy League schools perspective I don't see much to gain. One scrimmage, a year in advance, isn't going to have a huge impact on what they do next year. If we are talking a scrimmage a week before the season starts with a full roster i get it, but this is a year in advance.
He suggested they could have slated a D-II game this week rather than in the early season when you'd normally see it. But it would have required knowing which team would be available to play because of their schedule.
Their best choice would have been to find an A-Sun or Big South team that would have enjoyed one more paycheck.
Is Pioneer HS busy?
Anything to get a different look . . .
I know Athletes in Action is still "a thing" but do they still assemble teams?
Could we play a Canadian team like hockey does?
If you are serious, the top Canadian teams play in their tournament this coming weekend and lower ranked teams might not provide much of a challenge to the Wolverines. There are some good Canadian players, but they usually play in the NCAA (remember Stauskas?)
I was really just sort of spitballing ideas, I mean, if AA Pioneer was on the table.
But a good note!
They came from Findlay - not Australia. :-)
If he did indeed suggest that, he is a liar.
Division II schools are not allowed to schedule any games this week, because it is after the "last date of competition"--the D-II NCAA tournament starts this week, and anybody who didn't make the tournament has to end their season.
Any teams scheduling games for this week would have needed to play fewer before their conference season. I'm not sure who that would appeal to.
I don't think Nebraska nor PSU expected to be as good as they are this year.
Tim Miles probably saved his job at Nebraska, and Pat Chambers has most of his squad returning for a run next year.
PSU & Nebraska are both at the maximum number of regular season games allowed.
Playing a game this week would have required (1) leaving a "game on the table" prior, (2) being in a position where there would be some benefit to the extra game, and (3) finding a willing dance partner for that extra game (who would ALSO need to be short of the 29-game limit).
Saint Mary's added an extra game a few years ago --- they were looking to get extra reps with Patrick Mills coming off injury, and they scheduled Eastern Washington: a low-tier Big Sky team that didn't qualify for their conference tournament (and thus could play at an extra game). Only instance I can recall of an extra scheduled game.
for a game this week vs a low rated opponent when beating them wouldn't help make the tournament?
Something to bear in mind is that for teams on the right side of the bubble, these games would be no win propositions. For the others, you'd have to get lucky for the opponent to be good enough to help.
This is PSU's spring break week.
Let's say PSU hypothetically hosted Southern Illinois (2nd in the MVC, 100th in RPI) Wednesday night. We'd have: (1) the game was scheduled late, (2) it's spring break week, (3) you're going to have to pay SIU $ to come into town, and (4) PSU technically rents out the Bryce Jordan Center, they'd have to pay the Bryce Jordan Center money.
Add that all up, and it's a big-time $ loser.
And a win vs. Southern Illinois (which is as good as it gets in terms of RPI amongst available MVC teams) doesn't really move the needle in terms of an NCAA at-large anyway.
Maybe we can scrimmage an Alumni team made up of past players.
Trey, we'll work around your schedule . . .
There is still a limit on the number of games that can be played. So, it's not that Michigan -- or anybody else -- can add a game now if they're already at the limit. But it would have been a way to even out the spacing of the nonconference schedule.
From our perspective, maybe. But from Gonzaga's, it would still be high reward, but at a much higher risk.
They could have but it would have meant a random open week in the non-conference schedule and I think most coaches were more focused on getting their teams right at the beginning of the season thank keeping them sharp between the tournaments.
No idea what the rules are about scrimmages but it wouldn't really do much more in my opinion than a practice. A random d-2 or low d-1 school probably isn't running out a better team than Simmons, Poole, Ibi, Duncan, Teske anyways which would be a second 5 for us and nothing in a scrimmage can replace a game atmosphere.
You're too late. That Korean kid over there has next. After him, I think it's the dude in the Albion College jersey. But I'll run with you if you need a fifth.
Little Tom is too bitter to scrimmage us because he is more focused on hurting Michigan than helping his own team. However, Matt Painter and Purdue share a mutual respect with us. Scrimmaging them could keep both teams sharp during this 11 day stretch without a game.
If we could have scheduled a game this week, then we should have combed one of the other conferences who had a tournament final yesterday for a body bag game on Saturday or something.
If we were going to do it, that is where we likely would have gone shopping . . . conferences who's Tournaments ended yesterday like ours did this year.
You would not get a top team, but you actually may have gotten a team that would more closely emulate a true first round NCAA opponent . . . a low/mid major who will give you a fight and a different look.
I wouldn't even care if it was a top team from one of those leages. Even an Arkansas Pine Bluff would be better than nothing.