Beaumont nearing capacity, supplies running low
As I'm sure many of you have heard, Beaumont Hospitals are nearing capacity. As of last night they had admitted 635 known or suspected COVID patients.
All of the local hospitals are now asking for donations of PPE. So help out if you can.
Also, there's this...
"During a conference call Monday night, state officials said no COVID-19 patient who has needed a ventilator has been removed from the ventilator -- they have either died or are still on it."
Stay safe out there everyone. And by out there I mean in your house.
March 25th, 2020 at 11:49 AM ^
Swine flu was declared a public health crisis before a single American died, IIRC, but keep repeating bullshit.
March 25th, 2020 at 11:56 AM ^
Correct. Also it was significantly less deadly and not nearly as contagious.
Why do so many people believe, and then constantly repeat, lies?
Is it true that’s it wasn’t nearly as contagious? Deadly for sure as the death rate was microscopic but they were projecting half the population of the US to get it at one point. Of course it ended up being ~20% but I’ve seen some projections for Covid to about that with others being higher
Really wish I had an answer for your last sentence. It's a problem of a magnitude that is impossible for me to put into words. I think ultimately, it will be the end of our society as we know it.
Think or hope? There will be permanent changes to aspects of our lives, particularly international travel and hopefully expanded health care infrastructure. Life as we know it will return and thrive eventually.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:27 PM ^
this is true. obama did this in April then declared a national emergency in Oct.
similarly, Azar, head of HHS, on Jan 31 declared a public health emergency on Covid19.
March 25th, 2020 at 11:55 AM ^
Mineral King - why don’t you walk away from the blog for a little while and write us a full diary on all of the things that the government could have and should have done to bettter mitigate the seine flu to back up your assertion:
At a minimum please address:
1. When did the president know it was a serious threat and when did the president tell the people
2. how many times in each case did the president downplay the threat.
3. Did the president say that everyone could get tested when they couldn’t
4. What actions were taken (and how quickly) to ensure that there was adequate testing equipment
5. were there shortages of masks, what was done to address those shortages.
I look forward to your diary.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:01 PM ^
I'm not normally one that calls for having accounts banned (or put on a time out at least), but this guy and at least one Qtard I've seen post here need to go.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:10 PM ^
Agreed. These folks need to be eliminated ASAP. They are dangerous to public health at this point
March 25th, 2020 at 11:57 AM ^
Go pretend to be Shea Patterson somewhere else.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:37 PM ^
The 4K ended up being 40. It was a lie, like everything else the Prez says.
We really should have left you in Mississippi where you belong.
Jesus H. Christ on a popsicle stick. This guy, ya'll. I don't even pretend he's Shea anymore because it's so insulting to Shea.
March 26th, 2020 at 12:24 PM ^
Every time a Michigan person supports 45, particularly a football player, and especially about healthcare, a little part of me dies inside.
March 25th, 2020 at 11:52 AM ^
The only way out of this anytime soon will require a massive scale up in supplies for hospitals to keep healthcare workers safe and patients who need vents breathing, along with widespread testing at scale.
It seems like there's a lot of action and mobilization to do so on all fronts, but the clock is ticking for a lot of people, as this thing takes a few days to get people really sick if they've got a bad case and quite a few more if they'll recover.
The next two weeks will be telling as to how this is going to play out. Here's to hoping we're able to get it done. Feel grateful for and in awe of those in our healthcare system at the front lines of this thing.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:04 PM ^
It isn't just supplies, but actual ICU units, beds, doctors and nurses. And the supplies, which are near depleted.
The Defense Production Act should have been quietly activated two months ago, with the feds coordinating centrally. But here we are, in dumb fuck Idiocracy come to life (except without the redeeming qualities).
'Murica, fuck yeah.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:35 PM ^
We have a NP friend working at an elder care facility in SE Michigan. The only PPE they have are gloves. No masks or face shields. She's been reusing the same paper mask for a week now. We took her some cloth masks yesterday, which hopefully is better than nothing.
Shit...start using college dorms...they are empty now. Isolation. Location. Med students...
March 26th, 2020 at 10:06 AM ^
and what do you know...now using college dorms as staging areas to treat patients...
Activated two months ago when no one foresaw the rapid spread of this disease in no small part to the Chinese government trying to cover up their gross mishandling of this.
If China handled this properly this could have been handled with far less fuss beginning in late December.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:08 PM ^
The next two or three weeks are going to be tough. The number of U.S. deaths from this is probably going to rise very quickly as we're in the exponential growth part of the curve, because of all the infections that happened before social distancing kicked in.
But our social-distancing efforts should start to show in the curve at some point in April, and some of the resources we're now mobilizing will start to become available. Some of the drugs we're clinically testing now could come into greater use. I think we'll start to see positive trends in the second half of April. We've got to find a way to hang in there until then.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:12 PM ^
we're not two weeks from this anymore. Hospitals will be over run by Monday in NYC and other large metro areas.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:22 PM ^
That's what I mean - from now through the next 2-3 weeks is going to be the most brutal stretch, with the biggest surge in patients. The curve will continue growing beyond that, but should start slowing down.
Let’s seriously hope the next 2-3 weeks is when we get the worst. If that’s the case and we get some recession in the critical care need it would be a huge step in the right direction.
Let’s all say a prayer. Even the atheists and agnostics for good mojo.
Maybe, by hoping we open back up for business by Easter, Trump is hoping a lot of dead people get resurrected?
My neighbor is a doc that's getting drafted into the COVID19 fight at Beaumont (I'm about 3 miles away from the Troy hospital). His wife sent out a plea over our subdivision Facebook for N95 masks because they are so short on supplies. This situation is absolutely bonkers.
Edit: Henry Ford reaches capacity at two hospitals. Buckle up, everyone we're in for a bumpy ride.
March 25th, 2020 at 11:56 AM ^
This has always been the main danger of covid-19 - that the sheer volume of patients can overwhelm a health system.
People have tried to rationalize away the news from Italy/China/Iran by saying that our hospitals are "better" than theirs. No matter how good your hospital is, there is always a load capacity, and if the numbers become too high, its quality of care will suffer. We've got to keep those numbers down.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:05 PM ^
...which is something far beyond the sensibilities of anyone thinking we can return to "business as usual" by Easter.
I don’t think anyone thinks we can be “business as usual” by Easter.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:36 PM ^
...and I didn't even mention Spain, which now has more confirmed deaths than China.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:41 PM ^
Well we don't know how many deaths China actually had because they fudged their numbers worse than Enron.
Oh, you had asthma? I guess that's your cause of death.
Be mad at Trump or whoever all you want. The whole world was caught off guard because of the Commie POSs.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:48 PM ^
I can believe that China's fudging the numbers. And we're all paying the price for their initial incompetence.
But it was clear by late January that there was a severe health crisis in Wuhan. And not everyone was caught off-guard by this virus - South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and Japan were ready, having learned from SARS.
The rest of the world, unfortunately, didn't take it seriously. The U.S. is certainly not alone. But why we turned down the WHO's offer of tests is beyond me. And why some people (even on this board!) to this day keep trying to rationalize away this outbreak as "no worse than the flu" or a sign of "bad health care" in other countries is even harder to understand.
The whole world was caught off guard because of the Commie POSs.
Yeah, it really wasn't. At all. China went to the WHO almost immediately. They lied their asses off to their citizens, and media, but nobody outside of China was "caught off guard". On the contrary. We had months to prepare. We did nothing. Worse, our president downplayed it (kind of how commie china did, huh?) and lied for weeks. He's still lying. He's always lying.
Yeah. It’s the biggest bunch of bullshit. China began building a new hospital to be ready in 10 days almost 2 months ago to the day. And Wuhan population is 12mm. That should have been a fucking red siren with a giant megaphone attached to it. If we had real leadership at the very top, then state and local leaders would have been more likely to act more quickly as well. To try to shrug this off as “no one” really responding quickly is the weakest ass excuse. We aren’t talking about “no one” we are talking about the fucking president of the most powerful country in the world. He’s supposed to do better.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:02 PM ^
I heard that on NPR yesterday. Scary stuff, guys. It will get worse (probably much, much worse) before it gets better.
Keep a stiff upper lip.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:13 PM ^
I mentioned this before on another thread but Jiffy Mix in Chelsea is hoarding N95 masks. They stocked up in January in anticipation of this.
Well then I'm done with their corn muffins!
Get this info in the right hands so 5he masks can be repatriated to health care workers
March 25th, 2020 at 12:17 PM ^
My wife works L&D at a regional hospital in Upstate NY. The hospital cannot provide PPE to staff so they are buying masks themselves from ebay, Amazon, etc. Prices are 10x normal in some cases. Looking at reusing filters and disinfecting them on their own.
I'm worried that the lack of PPE will lead to 50% of healthcare workers in theis country being sick 10-14 days from now. And they either will have to Qtine for 14days (good luck operating at beyond capacity with half staff) or MUCH more likely work thru it.
Governor Cuomo is now mandating all NYS hospitals prep for minimum 150% capacity, 200% ideally.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:31 PM ^
they should report the price gauging to the atty general at the state and federal level.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:24 PM ^
- This is a false flag designed to hurt President Trump.
- Enemies of Trump wanted to do a "financial reset" and COVID-19 is their method.
- There's a cure ready but it won't be released (by the Deep State) until after the election.
- IV Vitamin C will cure coronavirus.
- LOL
- MGoBlog user Western_
March 25th, 2020 at 12:38 PM ^
And it's a global conspiracy. The whole world is shutting down its economy just to spite the U.S. government, they all hate us that much.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:39 PM ^
Please ban this imbecile who's spreading info that will kill people.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:32 PM ^
Perhaps someone can enlighten me on exactly why all of these Covid patients are mostly going to Beaumont? I know people that work at multiple different hospitals and there are some hospitals who don’t have a single known Covid patient as of today. I’m aware Beaumont is massive but it’s an honest question.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:51 PM ^
I'm 100% assuming things here, but my assumption is unless you're going to ER, the cheapest insurance plans require care to be scheduled through your primary care physician. Even if you aren't doing that due to insurance purposes, search online for what you are supposed to do if you think you have it:
Call your doctor before going in: Before going to the doctor’s office or emergency room, call ahead and tell them your symptoms. They will tell you what to do.
I'm guessing if it turns into an emergency situation, you've already suspected you have it, and have called to try to get tested. People are calling ahead while symptoms are mild. So then, it has to be was the PCP is telling patients. It has to be one of the following:
- Loads of local PCP are connected to Beaumont financially
- Beaumont currently the most prepared, so PCP are pointing patients there as best chance of survival
- Beaumont got the first case or two, and has a large network, so there is a concerted effort to keep COVID-19 cases contained by keeping it limited to as few hospitals as possible.
DMC, as a for-profit hospital system now, isn't reporting anything to the public.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:47 PM ^
All of you are ignorant. If there were a huge surplus of beds, ventilators, and supplies laying around for decades or years people are all “why do we have all this surplus laying around” and “what a waste”. Now that we need it people are all “where is it all” and “why aren’t we prepared”.
Why didn’t you throw to the other receiver Shea?
March 25th, 2020 at 12:55 PM ^
Give it up already.
March 25th, 2020 at 12:59 PM ^
Lots of people. Maybe quit being a big Nancy.
Lots of people.
Yes, they do. All health programs, publicly and privately funded, have some form of per-case cost basis. Among the costs rolled up are overhead costs of administration, staff, inventory on hand, etc. To keep those down, excess supplies are strongly discouraged, even prohibited.