Bacon said something interesting on 105.1
He said his souces wouldnt go on record so it is not in Endzone, but a caller brought up that Bandon made personel recommendations when he came in to watch film on Sundays with the staff (so not cool) and said he was thinking of firing Hoke midway through last season and bringing in Greg Schiano. Did anyone else hear about this or have any more information?
As mentioned Bacon said he couldnt go into it but the way his voice sounded it wasnt difficult to tell there had to be some truth behind it.
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But the truth is, we actually dodged it.
August 25th, 2015 at 6:18 PM ^
It actually doesn't surprise me. Why would he sit in on meetings if not to meddle with shit?
August 25th, 2015 at 6:20 PM ^
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August 25th, 2015 at 6:25 PM ^
You think that's bad?! 2 years ago at a home basketball game, Michigan up by 15 or 20 pts, DB walked right by my aisle seat and I gave him a nice "Hello Dave" and held out my hand for him to shake. He snubbed me. Walked right on by. Like I didn't even exist.
I can put up with a lot. To do a horrible job handling the shane morris incident? Sure. Almost fire hoke to bring in another mediocre coach? Ok. Completely ruin Michigan athletics? Fine.
But i'll be damned to have the AD at the school I attend be so cold hearted to walk right on by my extended hand.
Luckily I got one of those free pizzas from a cheerleader later that game so that turned things around.
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Good point. Wasn't really thinking. I don't think I actually said Dave to him, but after the past year I'm used to referring to him as that so i'm guessing that's why i typed it that way. Not sure how to edit comment though.
August 25th, 2015 at 7:04 PM ^
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August 26th, 2015 at 4:32 AM ^
No it's not "disrespectful" to refer to a famous public figure by their first name you fucking asshole! What respect did he deserve anyway? Who gives a fuck about his age? Take your authoritarian bullshit and stick it up your ass where it belongs! Did scum Brandon (I hope that was respectful enough for you) get interviewed a million times by people who didn't know him but called him Dave? I bet so, but I guess they are officially sanctioned enough for you, as spokesmodels for the corporatocracy, such that they are allowed this unwarranted familiarity.
Aside from getting his autograph several times outside the stadium tunnel gate when I was a kid, the only times I ever ran into Bo was at Crisler. I often sat close enough to his seat to see him but I never bothered him in his seat. However there were three or four times when we crossed paths in the aisle or on the floor on the way to or from our seats and when we were face to face I'd get a big smile and say Hi Bo, or How ya doin Bo? & he'd get a big smile and shake my hand and put his other hand on my shoulder with a squeeze as if we were old friends, but he didn't know me from Adam! Maybe he recognized me from previous encounters, my look is certainly not generic, but I doubt it. Either way he sure as hell wasn't offended & didn't take it as "disrespect."
If it was good enough for Bo it's infinitely better than Dave deserved. The OP should've addressed him as dirtbag. I hope that too would've been respectful enough for you.
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I absolutely think this was the case. And sitting in on film sessions was something known a while ago about Brandon.
But add to it the fact that Shane Morris was foricbly started in now the infamous concussion (yes it was!) game ...
Derrick Green was started over Smith and Johnson and at the time, some speculated that it was Brandon who wanted this "highly-touted 5-star" RB on the field and forced Hoke's hand ...
The myriad of burned redshirts to get kids on the field seems like it very easily could have been dictated by Brandon, wanting to showcase the "best talent" in order to draw fans ...
Recently players said that under Hoke you didn't know if you were starting or not, playing or not and most importantly ....why not.
All of it sounds to me like a very meddling and intrusive AD, trying to manage the program through a puppet head coach. Something that would NEVER, EVER fly with a Jim Harbaugh or Les Miles (related to the 2011 search). Like I said in another thread, I would love to have a beer with Hoke and get the real story ....and not just the Bacon book version.
What Hoke dealt with in working for Brandon.
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Most if not all of us at the time thought that Nussmeier was the answer to our problems. Hindsight is 20/20 my friend.
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August 25th, 2015 at 7:36 PM ^
I get the feeling that Hoke was so grateful for the opportunity to coach at Michigan that he abandoned his good judgment out of loyalty to the guy that hired him (and, maybe some fear about getting fired). I would bet that Hoke never would have allowed an AD to dictate personnel decisions when he was at Ball St or SDSU. I do think that Hoke is an average D1 head coach, and that an average coach would do better than 5-7 with the talent that Hoke recruited to the roster. From this, I have to come to the conclusion that there was something going on in the department (see Brandon) that was hamstringing him a bit. Now that we got Harbaugh though, I am exstatic that this was the case, assuming it was.
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August 25th, 2015 at 7:23 PM ^
fits the demagod personality type so perfectly. Completely clueless about his own abilities. What an asshat.
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The state of Michigan should have a restraining order on Dave Brandon.
August 25th, 2015 at 8:21 PM ^
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August 25th, 2015 at 9:26 PM ^
Okay, fine. We can put a restraining order on them, too.
August 25th, 2015 at 11:39 PM ^
How about just putting a 20' fence around Cedar Heights and putting them all in there?!
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August 25th, 2015 at 8:25 PM ^
to shove it. Could you imagine Brandon trying to do that to Harbaugh? Harbaugh would have pulled Brandon's spine out of his body and stapled it to the front door with a sign a warning any other idiots who wanted to "help" him...
August 25th, 2015 at 9:27 PM ^
I have a better visual for you: Imagine if he does that to Bo. Bo might very well level Schembecher Hall.
August 25th, 2015 at 8:45 PM ^
I am sure Dave Brandon is doing the same thing with Geoffrey at Toys R Us.
August 25th, 2015 at 9:02 PM ^
Had he gotten the chance to bring in Schiano, we would never be any better than a 7-5 to 8-4 team with continue ass whippings from MSU/OSU. He would've been fired after 2-3 years and we'd start all over again. What's worse, we would've lost out on any chance at Harbaugh likely forever, and would've likely entered another 10-15 years of complete irrelevance. Possibly permanent irrelevance.
That first year with Hoke winning the Sugar Bowl win must've convinced Brandon he was a god among men who could get away with whatever he wanted. What the hell did Mary Sue possibly see in this guy that she had to go out of her way to endorse him?
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August 25th, 2015 at 9:29 PM ^
August 25th, 2015 at 9:18 PM ^
Another couple interesting bits I caught Bacon saying today was that when Brandon made the call to Hoke to offer the job, Hoke couldn't say yes right away because his wife wasn't there, and also once he accepted that Hoke told Brandon he was "looking forward to working with Forcier" to which Brandon told him he was going to have to wait a month or so on that one.
Then iirc, Brandon announced at the same press conference announcing Hoke that Forcier left the program. Hoke had to see what was up right then I bet if he didn't already know.
August 25th, 2015 at 9:23 PM ^
Wasn't Forcier already gone by then? I thought the news of him flunking out broke around Christmas.
August 25th, 2015 at 9:43 PM ^
1/20/11. And states "This has been rumored for weeks, and confirmed, in part, by David Brandon at the Brady Hoke introductory presser"
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I just want to say this thread is gold. If you get a chance to listen to the 105.1 interview podcast I HIGHLY recommend it.
http://detroitsports1051.com/episodes/john-u-bacon-joins-drew-marc-in-studio/
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