AP poll is out and they...get it right?
AP Poll is out. Will this be indicative of CFP?
Michigan, Washington, Texas, FSU.
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:35 AM ^
Looks fair honestly. I’d gladly take FSU. Texas, I dunno. I know Ok state is ass but Texas for sure has some dudes.
December 3rd, 2023 at 12:58 PM ^
The problem with not picking Fl. State is it totally sends the wrong message and reeks of dishonesty. Football is a team sport and to not include a team because one person got hurt is stupid. Albeit the player who is hurt is the QB, there are dozens of other players who contributed and sacrificed for those wins.
A QB can't win games alone. He needs 10 more offensive players, 11 on defense, a special teams unit and a coaching staff, who are all outstanding, to go undefeated. Actually, Fl. State managed to win a few games without their starting QB. Therefore, you can't negate what everyone else contributed, for one man's misfortune. Those kids can't change who they play or don't play. They have 3 quality wins and are a blue-blood program from a power 5 conference. Most importantly, they've eaten everything on their plate, every time and they have yet to lose to anyone.
As much as I'd love to play them in a 1 vs. 4 matchup, they technically should be a 3 and we get Texas, which is far scarier because Texas has multiple weapons and can beat you in a lot of ways, much like us. This narrative of excluding the SEC would be wrong because they're conference is so great, is B.S. Everyone agreed to play by the same metrics. They lost games and the other's haven't, Period!!!! Texas soundly beat Bama in Tuscaloosa and Bama beat Georgia in Atlanta. Texas should edge out both (Transitive Property), for the college educated dummies arguing otherwise. I have cheese to go with their wine.
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:36 AM ^
It should be.
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:36 AM ^
I completely agree with this, all the way down at least through #8.
Maybe with a 12-team playoff next year it's a little more palatable to drop FSU out of the top 4, but not this year.
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:40 AM ^
Agreed. You just cannot punish a 13-0 P5 champion, regardless of who they played and what injuries they had.
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:46 AM ^
Dennis Franklin is nodding his head vigorously.
December 3rd, 2023 at 12:41 PM ^
Actually the entire Top25 looks to be slotted pretty fair with the exception of 25 Tenn.
That spot shoulda went to Troy (11-2 with 10 straight W's)
or Miami (ntm 11-2 whos 2 losses were to Miami ytm and the team they just beat for the MAC championship)
And I had the top 4 picked exactly as this is in post last night. Yes these ARE the 4 teams and it should be slotted this way.
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:39 AM ^
Know it doesnt mean much in the big scheme of things.
But
WE'RE #1!!!!
That felt good - been awhile...
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:48 AM ^
First time since '97!
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:41 AM ^
They got it spot on right. Go Blue !
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:42 AM ^
Bowls games I would enjoy:
OSU vs Bama
ND vs LSU
UGA vs ORE
Mizzou vs PSU
Ole Miss vs Oklahoma
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:50 AM ^
You forgot Iowa vs USC!
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:53 AM ^
I'm down for Iowa vs USC or Iowa vs OK St.
December 3rd, 2023 at 12:16 PM ^
That game would be amazing…
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:44 AM ^
This is what I've been clamoring for! FSU can be in, but they are the weakest of the 4 as it stands. Texas has the head to head. Hopefully this is how it shakes out.
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:46 AM ^
Why isn't anyone talking about Ohio State? Did they see Ryan dancing with the troops blowing his whistle? Seems like at least one person with a voice would suggest Ohio State has a chance
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:52 AM ^
Ryan Day has a chance of being fired when they lose their bowl without Marvin Harrison
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:53 AM ^
Tennessee is in there for 1 reason and 1 reason only, to give more top-25 wins to other SEC teams to try and push the narrative
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:56 AM ^
ESPN while constantly campaigning that Bama HAS to be in had Bama ranked 5th in there own power ranking
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:56 AM ^
The AP certainly got it right. The CFP Committee better follow suit and perhaps make some last minute changes. That means NO SEC team(s) get in this year.
December 3rd, 2023 at 1:51 PM ^
few things could get me to touch myself faster
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:57 AM ^
AP doesn't care about $$$. Media and committee do. Texas Michigan Bama are amongst the top 3 brands in the game.
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:57 AM ^
FSU's 2nd stringer should be back (easily) for the playoff. Sure hope Warde gets the committee to put them 4th.
December 3rd, 2023 at 12:04 PM ^
Warde probably put Alabama at 1 to appease everyone
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:58 AM ^
The SEC is the best league?
Wake Forest 36 Vanderbilt 20
Vanderbilt 35 Hawaii 28
Miami 48 Texas A&M 33
Texas 34 Alabama 24
FSU 45 LSU 24
UNC 31 South Carolina 17
Missouri 23 MTSU 19
Auburn 14 California 10
Miss St 31 Arizona 24
Utah 24 Florida 11
Alabama 17 S Florida 3
BYU 38 Arkansas 31
Missouri 34 Memphis 31
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:59 AM ^
Indeed, they got it right and let's hope that the CFP committee follows their lead.
December 3rd, 2023 at 11:59 AM ^
This is correct. Be a major slight to all of the non-SEC conferences if the committee passes on FSU. EVERY OTHER conference has sat our multiple years; SEC is down this year and they get to sit.
December 3rd, 2023 at 12:01 PM ^
The rational order.
December 3rd, 2023 at 12:03 PM ^
Warde smiling this morning in the CFP room. I'm going to take that as a sign the SEC is out.
December 3rd, 2023 at 1:53 PM ^
I think it was just the breakfast buffet
December 3rd, 2023 at 12:08 PM ^
ESPN's CFP show put up an image with the title being Michigan beats TCU 26-0 last night. TCU? Really? Now bloviating that Alabama should be in front of FSU. The fix is in. Man, what garbage.
December 3rd, 2023 at 12:11 PM ^
ESPN desperately wants SEC; surprised that they even allowed the contrary view to be put out there. He's right -- games played matter and this is not a beauty contest.
December 3rd, 2023 at 12:26 PM ^
All teams have on days, off-days, some luck, and at times, match-up problems where style of play is a big advantage or disadvantage.
Last nights rant was on TCU being in last year and getting annihilated by GA - and completely glossed over a missed FG by OSU was what got them into the NC game.
Everyone is dismissing FSU, and overlooking completely Alabama's several incredibly close calls including a 4th & 31 miracle last week to a bad Auburn team.
Yes, the SEC has had some great teams - no question, but that should not automatically translate into the discussion that it equates to every single year due to history. There is also plenty of evidence that the SEC has been the pinnacle of "innovative" recruiting practices and pay to play above and beyond any conference forever. "NIL" and pay to play has always been a way of life there forever, not to mention academically questionable practices, over-signing and running off players, etc - they just have done a great job of not getting caught - sign stealing is amateur hour compared to HOW they have maintained that level of players forever.
The SEC has always viewed football as a professional sport - hence they stock-pool talent - once GA brought Smart in as a head coach and Richt (who didn't participate - at least not anywhere near that level) and now they are stacking talent maybe even better than Alabama until NIL.
December 3rd, 2023 at 12:29 PM ^
FSU screwed royally! ESPN loves the fact Michigan has to play Bama
December 3rd, 2023 at 1:11 PM ^
Booger M. speaking the truth. $$$ rules. Bama - Michigan is a bigger draw than FSU - Michigan or FSU - Washington.