Angelique says no decision on TRO today
November 11th, 2023 at 10:41 AM ^
Have I missed any posts over the last couple weeks making him public enemy #1? Lest we forget he’s responsible for most of this shit. And someone explain to me what was on his resume that JH thought this guy should be on staff? Hopefully not a military infatuation.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:43 AM ^
Nah, I get it.
But, F B1G...that's why.
November 11th, 2023 at 11:01 AM ^
And someone explain to me what was on his resume that JH thought this guy should be on staff?
He was a volunteer assistant for several years before being hired as an analyst, so they had a body of work to go by. If you're talking about why they took him on as a volunteer assistant, well, I don't think they're going to be that picky about an unpaid position. You basically just want a hard worker.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:35 AM ^
WIN
THE
GAME!
November 11th, 2023 at 10:36 AM ^
Horrible news. Hope it doesn’t deflate the team. OL needs to play their best game today
November 11th, 2023 at 10:36 AM ^
I firmly believe that there are "powers that be" that are pulling strings behind the scenes to destroy Michigan football. There's no way the judge gets switched then ignores a tro against the big 10's clear over reach with out due process in the 11th hour.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:41 AM ^
Strange happenings all around.
November 11th, 2023 at 11:34 AM ^
I’m sorry, but there’s nothing strange about a judge who has obvious conflict of interest connections to the plaintiff recusing themselves.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:37 AM ^
Pretty shocked by this decision. I though injunction might be harder but TRO case was pretty strong in my opinion.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:37 AM ^
So, all of the posters (I wasn’t one of them, BTW) that everyone insulted, called trolls, downvoted, were right. And all of our so called experts, insiders, etc were wrong.
And, in the end, the scum won. And, anyone who believes that not having Harbaugh on the sidelines for this game is not a huge disadvantage for us is misguided and naive.
College athletics, football in particular, is a disgrace.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:45 AM ^
People were predicting what would happen based on what commonly happens. I expected a ruling on the TRO before the game, and was adamant about that. I'm pretty shocked they didn't rule on it based on what I know, seems like a very outlier response.
November 11th, 2023 at 11:28 AM ^
The judge (Connors) did rule - he “declined to grant” the TRO. In what basis remains to be seen, but Michigan’s legal argument was obviously not persuasive.
November 11th, 2023 at 11:36 AM ^
there was plenty of smoke last night from national reporters talking to legal experts about judges hesitating to litigate the bylaws of voluntary organizations for fear of establishing precedents
November 11th, 2023 at 10:38 AM ^
What a crock.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:38 AM ^
Win the game
November 11th, 2023 at 10:38 AM ^
GO FOR TWO AFTER EVERY TOUCHDOWN WIN WITH MALICE
November 11th, 2023 at 10:38 AM ^
Extremely disappointed. Goes to show “the insiders” knew nothing.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:39 AM ^
This is why they should have dumped everything credible they had on everyone else BEFORE the suspension came from the B1G.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:39 AM ^
Starting to think that was smoke.
November 11th, 2023 at 11:38 AM ^
yeah, this is actually the first time I have started to believe that we are completely fucked. Absent the NCAA being as toothless as usual, there is no way out of this and I’m worried being so standoffish with apparently so few cards up our sleeve has backfired
November 11th, 2023 at 10:39 AM ^
That wouldn't have mattered. The complaint was over 200 pages, anyway, and you wanted a quick ruling, right?
November 11th, 2023 at 10:39 AM ^
When all's said and done, burgers and iPhones will have gotten Harbaugh suspended for half the season.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:43 AM ^
It's so fucking pathetic when all these other teams stack their roster's with millions of dollars worth of 5 star talent, that don't play school to boot.
November 11th, 2023 at 11:04 AM ^
That's not a competitive advantage though. OSU, Georgia, Bama, they don't get an advantage from buying players, only in person scouting.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:40 AM ^
It really is Michigan vs Everybody, now that judicial time has weighed in.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:41 AM ^
If you the the NCAA takes forever to complete something, the United States Judicial System would like to say: “Hold my beer.”
November 11th, 2023 at 10:45 AM ^
Watch, the NCAA will railroad Harbaugh with utmost haste. Meanwhile Kansas.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:41 AM ^
It would be awesome if Harbaugh went to the stadium and coached the game. What’s the NCAA or Big 10 gonna do?
November 11th, 2023 at 10:44 AM ^
They would count any result as a loss for michigan.
November 11th, 2023 at 11:07 AM ^
I'm suddenly a fan of the idea that Santa/Warde announce he's been stripped of his HC title.
And appointed Special Consultant to the Football Program, and then puts on the big headset.
::sigh:: A guy can dream.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:41 AM ^
Allow me to interject here and say that we should not express vitriol at the judge - this was always a risk in being forced to engage in this process with our own conference, so we will simply need to win today. The judge is also a local resident and so are a lot of us, and people talk, and I really don't want this place to sully whatever reputation it may have in the middle of a crisis in which we have been forced to participate by a series of injustices enacted by our conference leadership.
That said, for Petitti to win this particular round is infuriating, but we do have a hearing to look forward to as well as a game in about 80 minutes.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:45 AM ^
Well said. I was feeling a bit concerned about getting the TRO granted today and the judge being accused of the same hastiness and lack of due process that we are accusing Pettiti of. In a way, this is the high road. Win the game today. Win in court next Fri. That being said, the fact that we are in this position in the first place is BS.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:47 AM ^
Hes won a few rounds now
November 11th, 2023 at 10:53 AM ^
If the judge is prevented from making a decision, that's one thing.
If she won't, not sure I agree with you, that's the job.
This is a clear-cut case of a wrong being hastily enacted and the TRO injunction the manner in which that wrong is prevented pending full review.
Punting here because you aren't sure is weak sauce. Make a ruling one way or the other, then verify 11/17 in a hearing.
Judges decide things.
I'm not saying she should be pilloried, but not doing your job is definitely something for which you can be criticized.
November 11th, 2023 at 11:03 AM ^
Criticism of the current state of affairs and not ruling today is fine. I am referring more about anything which might be over the top and ad hominem. I just wanted to toss a reminder out there that disillusionment or disagreement with the legal reasoning is one thing, but name-calling or other abuse is quite another.
I mean, I disagree with it myself and here I am.
November 11th, 2023 at 11:14 AM ^
November 11th, 2023 at 11:03 AM ^
Our own bias’s or not. She failed at her job and gave poor legal reasoning. There is nothing wrong with holding her accountable. The Big10’s timing of announcement was egregious and intentional and any impartial qualified judge should see that and be insulted by that alone. Claiming there is no irreparable damages as reasoning to not grant a stay ( not a lawyer not sure I’m wording that correctly) is being purely and obnoxiously obtuse to the matter.
Her reputation deserves to be damaged. Making a decision on the grounds of not appearing to be favorably biased is every bit as morally bankrupt as making based on being favorably biased
November 11th, 2023 at 11:14 AM ^
Amen. As much as we may disagree with the decision we have to respect the rule of law and act with composure.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:42 AM ^
JJ and this Defense have to prove we are the best. We win this game by 10 we jump to #1 and go for win 1000 next week
November 11th, 2023 at 10:42 AM ^
Everything about how everyone is handling this, across the board, is meeting the total stupidity of the entire scandal.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:42 AM ^
A judge who does their job is going to try to allow the other party a change to respond. The court will then need to review case law, do their own research, and draft an opinion. This takes time. The timing of the litigants is NOT the court’s problem. That is why being passive and waiting for the official discipline, rather than the notice of possible disciplinary action, was a mistake. Played right into the hands of the BIG.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:45 AM ^
What could UM have done prior? The TRO requires you to prove harm to the party involved, there was nothing they could have done at that point because a notice is not actual harm.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:47 AM ^
Yeah, the TRO was written and ready to go as soon as the B1G released their ruling; as you noted you can't get a TRO if there's nothing to restrain.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:52 AM ^
Because the conference had threatened disciplinary action. You go on that. The worst likely thing is that the judge declines to rule until the conference acts. You simply needed to move before they did.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:50 AM ^
And this kind of legal genius is why everyone should bypass high-priced lawyers and just rely on the internet instead. Brilliant!
November 11th, 2023 at 10:53 AM ^
Lolz.
November 11th, 2023 at 11:00 AM ^
The other lawyers have appeared according to the court records.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:43 AM ^
We always make fun of the SEC but they wouldn't have done this shit. They support their schools to a fault.
What kind of a conference submarines one of its flagship schools that has a playoff and national championship shot? The SEC is figuring out how to get multiple teams in.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:43 AM ^
I mean I get that the Big Ten's bush league move put the legal system up against it time wise but still infuriating to see that the Big Ten essentially got rewarded for acting in extremely bad faith.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:45 AM ^
It's sort of insane the judge came to this determination but at this point I have given up expecting sanity in these proceedings.