Amazon All or Nothing Michigan discussion
So I have been waiting for someone to post a discussion thread, and nothing has been posted yet unless I missed it. I know you all binge watched it, don't act like you didn't. So what did you think, did you learn anything you didnt know?
I thought it was great. Very well done, as bad as things went last year I expected this thing to be a terrible watch, I was wrong.
Some things I learned
1. Pep Hmilton was calling most of the plays? I figured he was more involved when Drevno came down from the booth but it seems like he was calling them.
2. Chase Winovich is friggin hilarious. He should be mic'd up every game
3.Wilton Speight did not come off great. Honestly I just don't think I would find him likable even if he was a good qb.
4. Don Brown is even more likable then I thought. The guys personality is awesome. Rare combo of being a really nice guy, funny, and the best D coordinator in the country.
What do you guys think? I don't think they could have done a better job with this special, really a great watch.
I want a team full of guys with that much heart. Love Gary even MORE after seeing this.
Speight comes off entitled and bratty. Not likeable at all.
Peters comes off like he just clam baked his dorm room.
How could you not love the Rome trip after seeing this?
1. It's not how much Pep knows. It's about the players know and can execute accordingly.
2. It's like some of you have forgotten about some of the very dumb situational calls our offensive coaches dialed up. Who else remembers the 4th quarter play call against PSU?
Same here--convenient belief systems are the best.
Sounds similar to Darrell Funk. Supposedly the guy could talk O line details to you for days but man was he a bad OL coach.
I wasn't that down on Speight because after the Purdue game injury, he was just trying to work his way back and I still think he would have lead us to a couple more wins if not for the injury. Also, we only see what the editors decided to show us, but O'Korn came across as someone who tried to talk a good game, but just couldn't get it done. You could really see the frustration from Harbaugh and Pep. I also think Harbaugh realizes he blew the bowl game when Pep mentions he didn't feel good about the play when the tight end is in at H Back spot and is about to get the hand off and relays down to Harbaugh that the play didn't feel right, but the let the play run and he fumbles it. Wrong people in for that play.
I've read alot of people wonder what Pep Hamilton does for this team, but I feel a lot better about his coaching after seeing this show.
Don Brown was awesome thoughout, but we had a very young group that wasn't up to being able to take the responsibility of winning games when our offense struggled so much even though he tried to push them to get it done on their own. I don't remember which game or episode it was that Pep just goes, "we can't block anyone". Our Quarterbacks weren't up to par, but didn't get any help from the line.
I'm an old guy who was 10 when Bo took over in 1968, so the Ohio State episode with the reality that we have won only 1 game in 13 years (or is it 14 years) made me sick again. Especially when we were in position to win it. You got the feeling the defense relaxed a bit when the freshman quarterback came in and then O'Korn couldn't stay consistant for a full game.
This show could have been filmed with 5 minutes of access to 5 players, once a week, 30 minutes of practice or meeting once a week, and 5 hours of gameday. That's definitely something that should be considered if there's a next year.
I am watching it right now...got through episode 2. Its better done than expected. Love Don Brown and Rashan's mother is great. Harbaugh is a good father too.
Time for some Sneaky Pete
Agreed - it was sad to see an M student-athlete forced to eat at Red Lobster. Only thing sadder is an M Alum that doesn't have Amazon Prime.
Currently on episode 3, but here are my initial impressions:
1. The show seems to focus more on QB play and totally ignores the deficiencies of the offensive line (and pass blocking by RB's).
2. Speight tends to whine a lot.
3. The show focuses a lot on Pep's role on offensive play calling. I wonder how accurate it portrays his role.
Listening to Jack tell the Vito Antuofermo story, it felt like I was listening to Bo. They sound so much alike.
2. Harbaugh is awkward as hell. Their are moments in the show that made me cringe, but most people know that.
3. Reactions and pre-game was filled down by Harbaugh and Pep because their was a camera on them 95% of the time. Don brown doesn’t exactly have to worry about that so much.
4. Drevno was excluded for a reason. We all wondered why the show took so long. Well maybe the reason was, they needed time to edit the people who left out.
5. Seems like both Wilt and JOK were just as I expected. They are constantly in the mold of the rich white boy. They both had a distorted view of reality.
6. DON FREAKING BROWN. If I was a top100 recruit, that is thee man I would play for.
7. Rashan Gary won over the hearts of any and every fan who watched. He is the true definition of a Michigan man.
8. Jack Harbaugh. Glad he is around, if you have watched to the end, his speech was something else.
9. Update the facilities. I know we got even more money to update Schembechler hall, but my god compared to the best of the best, we are really far behind In terms of being high tech and appealing. It still looks really old.
10. Get them boys into better dorms. Not a great look for recruits to show them south quad. Ugly, get them some Kentucky basketball type dorms near schem.
2. Harbaugh is awkward as hell. Their are moments in the show that made me cringe, but most people know that.
Hey, my dad made me cringe sometimes, too.
Drevino is the one who calls the run game and Pep is the one who calls the passing game. It was a shared duties.
2) Chase IS great. He and Bush and Gary very well could
All be gone next season.
3) Wilt looks like he’s never lifted a weight in his life. Likes to eat a lot. Expected to just be the starter? I dunno. Seems like his teammates like him. Girlfriend pretty much called him out. That was great.
4) Don Brown was by far Harbaughs best hire. Matty is great but the way Brown brings the fire is unmatched.
5) really feel for grant Newsome. I think he would’ve been another great #77. How the fate of one play can alter ones trajectory never ceases to amaze me. Athletics..especially football...can be very humbling. I have no doubt that grant will make it big someday...in something tho....he is wise way beyond his years (I read his tweets occasionally and I’d elect him over 80% of the politicians out there).
6) wish I could go back In time to be a freshmen or sophomore again even if it was for just a semester. Sigh.
I do find it stressful to watch, at times because I know what is coming (especially w/ QB’s) but I love the off field spotlight on our players. Impressive group of young men and props to Coach Jim for taking his daughter to the trainers with an infected ear.
Love seeing the footage of the campus. Damn, I've gotta get back for a game soon.
Towards the end of episode 3.
I have never, and will never, love having a man coach our team as much as Don Brown. After watching this whole series, I can't see how any recruit would want to play for a guy as much as him. I'm 5'10" with a dad bod and he made me want to get up and hit someone. I LOVE DON BROWN!!!
Probably been mentioned. But I love how the players listen to Don Brown when he's talking/yelling. All eyes are on him. I'm so glad he's our DC.
Some of you are reading way too much out of a few hours they decided to show us.
Most airtime goes to Harbaugh obviously. His home life, his family are highlighted, as are his attempts at motivating the team.
Pep gets a lot of run. He comes off good in the series. You can tell he cares about the QB's. Drevno gets very little airtime save for one segment when the oline visit his house. He must have been cut out once he left. Absolutely no Jay Harbaugh, no Greg Frey, no other coaches at shown much at all except Don Brown.....
.....Don Brown He comes off as good as anyone in the show. He's freaking awesome and I would kill to play for him. His halftime speech of the Florida game was only 30 seconds but It gave me chills. 30 Seconds and I was ready to put on shoulder pads and go kill some fools.
QB's get the most attention of any position group (by far)Speight comes off as a rich entitled kid who is proud of his "dad bod". John OKorn gets ALOT of airtime. He's comes off as a "try hard" kid who who just isn't any good. He has a good attitude out there and try's the rah-rah talk more than any offensive players. He'll be successful in life, but not at football.
Gary and Winovich are highlighted a lot early on in the first few episodes. Surprisingly very little Mo Hurst coverage considering he was an All American. Just a Segment showing him as an Uber driver. Higdon has a daughter. I feel he's primed for a breakout year. I had forgotten how many long runs he had.
It was depressing looking back at all the losses last year due to poor QB and offensive line play. And that final loss to South Carolina in he bowl game was just stunning to rehash. I still can't believe how much they rolled over and gave that game away.
In other words, while it might’ve looked like they rolled over, the real problem was that they were on their 3rd-choice RT, 2nd-string QB, etc.
One thing I noticed and began to realize- Calling the plays is one thing- designing them is what the coordinators do as well. A lot more behind the scenes here that we didn’t see- Pep, Drevno and Coach Harbaugh are probably all in together in designing and implementing plays, and then game planning.
It was a young team, and a very injured team. Playcalling, decision making, the youth and injuries surely doomed this team last year. Let’s hope we see differences this coming year.
All in all- I think the players and the coaching Staff grew last year from the adversity. Again hoping to see some advance this coming year. Go Blue!
Peters is the coolest dude around. Guy can't even spell stress. "Whatever bro".
my favorite moment was when the guy in the uber asks Mo Hurst if he has season tickets?
"Yep".
LOL, the 2 people in that car might both love Michigan football, but they are WORLDS apart.
my favorite moment was when the guy in the uber asks Mo Hurst if he has season tickets?
"Yep".
LOL, the 2 people in that car might both love Michigan football, but they are WORLDS apart.
my favorite moment was when the guy in the uber asks Mo Hurst if he has season tickets?
"Yep".
LOL, the 2 people in that car might both love Michigan football, but they are WORLDS apart.
That guy was a goober
I can assure you that he is representative of the average U of M Student season ticket holder.
sadness also, and yes it probably is a typical M student these days (football knowledge-wise).
Also makes me realize how uber obsessed we all really are with M Football. LOL We're the sad ones in a lot of peoples eyes.
There's no shame in being uber focused on academics. Most college kids use Saturday as stress relief.
Also, I bet if he had said "hey I'm Moe Hurst", or if it were basketball where you actually get to see player's faces for more than a minute, he would have recognized him.
Jack Harbaugh is awesome.He is the star of the podcast and should have had a bigger part in the show.