247: Big Ten expected to have all 14 schools for football season
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Sometimes the simplest response is the funniest.
Your dedication to posting utter fucking nonsense on every post is honestly impressive.
The writer doesn't really get the quote. "I'd be surprised to play and have only 12 of 14 teams playing" means nothing as to whether he thinks anyone will play in the fall. It just means he doesn't believe they'll have a season where a couple teams are left out.
“To clarify, Schapiro expects all 14 schools to be able to play this fall, unless state policies prohibit campuses from opening.”
He was saying both that he expects all schools to be playing football this fall, and that he can’t see playing without all 14 schools.
I'm assuming the second quote is Rittenberg clarifying Schapiro's quote. But that's not what Schapiro was quoted as saying. So maybe Schapiro actually said that, but if he did why not quote that instead of what Schapiro actually said which was "I don't see a football season this fall where 12 of 14 teams play". Those two things have very different meanings and if there was a follow up question to clarify then why not quote that?
Exactly. Journalism is an awful state these days in and out of sports. It always kills me when an announcer or writer will say: "so and so is only the 3rd player in the last 20 years to accomplish x" and then not identify who the other two were.
Sweet. Hopefully things progress nicely towards that goal.
The SEC could vote as early as next week on players returning to campus as early as June 1st or 15th.
Joel Klatt said in interview the other day he talks almost daily to University Presidents, athletic directors and coaches and from what he gathers there is a 98 pct chance there will be some form of CFB season this year.
Says may not be all the teams and some may actually play their home games in other states. He also added it's basically the teams out west that are unsure what will happen next and that the SEC is pretty much at 100 pct and likely with some fans in the stands.
It will only take one student in a large lecture class to test positive for the virus on each campus to bring the season to a screeching halt. The season may not see October.
The start of the season should be pushed back to at least mid-October. Odds are just not on the side of an uninterrupted season.
COVID19 is more ruthless than homer referees working in Ohio Stadium in November.
How would pushing back to October help ? Seems like it would hurt. They should start the season in August, or late February.
That is simply not true. There has been no indication from those opening back up that would be the way they would handle it. That's completely unrealistic to expect those standards. The pro sports that have talked about returning said it's not possible to react in that manner.
I'm not sure why you think starting in mid-october would make that any better either considering this isn't going anywhere. We are living with a virus. People are going to get it and likely a lot considering around 80% of us haven't had it yet either.
Didn't the Bundesliga cancel a game when 2 guys tested positive before the match?
People talk a lot of smack like ‘oh ... people are going to get it anyway’. No... we DO NOT want people to get it. Many people ‘getting it’ are having long-term health problems from it. So ... acting like this is the flu is trivializing it as a disease that is something to live with. It’s not.
If some in the scientific community are correct in predicting that COVID comes back hard during flu season, then pushing the season back to October would ultimately cause less football as opposed to more.
There really is no right answer here.
Maybe just have all the players use these instead of regular helmets?
Pushing it back makes it worse as the second wave will hit during fall.
Pushing back makes zero sense.
Opinion or source?
Wow. I’m just think how crazy it would be for UM and MSU to be playing home games in Ohio or Indiana. Could you imagine the shitstorm that would be blowing toward Lansing if that were to happen...
I was thinking this exact thing the other day. Let's say we have most of the Big 10 states good with playing but Herr Governor decides it's not allowed in Michigan.
I'd think Cleveland, Indy and Chicago might work out well for home games for Michigan and State both.
Same thing if Rutgers had a problem. They are nearish New York, I could see it happening. Heck Rutgers would probably make more playing their games away anyway.
Big cities are the last place that college football games should be occurring. If Michigan wants to play its season, it should play in the Fargo Dome.
Yeah cause the virus doesn't travel well inside enclosed buildings.
we have our own problems with people in charge in chicago/illinois
Not saying this will happen or even in the talks, but I feel 10 game conference only schedule would be the most feasible. Cuts down on travel, it allows the conferences to have autonomy over their policies. This still would allow for conference championship games, and the commissioners could develop a plan for bowl games and the playoffs. You can do this all without the NCAA.
At this time Michigan is still on lockdown although some are back to work.
Where I live they are allowing 25% occupancy in restaurants with tables six feet apart. I don’t see how this is going to lead to putting students on campus and in classes plus filling up the Big House. It has been said by conference leaders that students need to be on campus and in the stadium for games to be played. In my view, I just don’t see this progression happening without a vaccine.
College administrators need to have a plan A through Z to be ready for what will happen. Right now we have heard their plan A, which is predicated on everything going perfectly.
If the season started in mid-October it would last into late January 2021.
We have the equivalent of Al Borges leading a psychotic shit show of a virus testing, tracing and transitioning plan.
I hope there will be a season but do not expect there to be one. The CV will not allow it.
It's only mid-May; there is a lot of time to see how the situation develops and what the appropriate levels of social distancing should be for large events. Planning different scenarios needs to be done now, but the actual decisions are not due yet.
Well .... the WHO and EU Health organizations are already saying plan on a very bad second wave in the fall. So unless college football thinks it is immune to it, ain’t happening anytime soon.
And yet another person who believes “not until there’s a vaccine” is a reasonable approach.
There is no guarantee of a vaccine in the near future - or ever.
From what I've read sheltering in place slowed infections and the healthy from building immunity. Polio has essentially been eradicated from the US and most modern countries. Last case in US 1984. Vaccines and the healthy with immunities together are needed to minimize covid-19. Basically we just put off the inevitable, viruses do what viruses do.
Agreed. The original stay at home orders were to reduce hospitals from being overwhelmed by COVID cases. That happened. It also prolonged the course of this virus, via the time axis on the graph charts.
Australia is approaching their winter and I have heard via news reports that infections are way below expectations. If our CDC were to model this winter after Australia, we might not see a second wave that has any consequence here in the USA.
Australia and New Zealand are also great examples of locking down early, widespread testing of the population and good public adherence to social distancing rules. All of which do not fit what the US has done or experienced. Infections are down but due to a well thought out and quick response by the gov't.
Its also not known yet if you can get re-infected with the virus after having it. Still a lot of testing needs done on that front as well as a vaccine which may or may not come. The fastest vaccine to market previously was for the mumps and it took four years. Some viruses never have vaccines that work discovered. There have been reports of the virus reappearing in Hong Kong, Singapore, South Korea and even Wuhan.
All that to say, odds are the virus will get worse again but its not certain. The question is what level of rules is the public willing to adhere to that are effective without causing undue economic pain?
Another issue that hurts all this is the fact that the "fake news" and distrust of the media is so ingrained into our culture now that no one believes the sources of actual information and too many believe whatever "tickles their ears".
I’d definitely front load the conference schedule and hope you can get all the games in. Between Rutgers proximity to NYC, MD and DC, Michigan and Detroit and Northwestern and Chicago, the odds of at least one school being in a location with restrictions on large gatherings is quite high. Even if you limit to to the teams, coaching staff, tv crews, medical staff, refs etc you are talking about multiple hundreds of people.
The logistics of a sport like football and the realities of the requirements of even limited social distancing are not very compatible.
There will only be 12 if Whitmer has any say in the matter.
Can you explain why you think if it's safe to have games that the governor would choose to prevent them from happening? What motivation would there be? Do you think she's putting restrictions in place just for shits and giggles?
She's putting restrictions in place because she's too dumb to realize they cause more harm than good.
She'll probably figure it out in about a month when she has to figure out how to cut 30% of expenses out of the state budget.
Football is safe because 18-22 year olds are a very low risk group and there's no evidence asymptomatic people are anywhere near as infectious as symptomatic people.
Yes, I'm sure the governor has no idea that this is tough on the economy and hasn't weighed that into her decision making process at all.
Oh, she knows what damage will be inflicted. The question is, knowing it, why does she continue to use a "one size fits all" approach for the whole state?
Evidence that asymptomatic people are nowhere near as infectious as symptomatic price would be much more persuasive.
“As the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) unfolds, an increasing number of reports have indicated that some infected persons may not exhibit signs or symptoms of illness, including persons who are presymptomatic (SARS-CoV-2 RNA is detectable before symptom onset) or asymptomatic (SARS-CoV-2 RNA is detectable but symptoms never develop) (1–8). The detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA in presymptomatic or asymptomatic persons does not prove that they can transmit the virus to others. We describe evidence that supports the concept of transmission while presymptomatic and asymptomatic, which we found during a rapid literature review conducted at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in early April 2020.”
Always enjoyable to read cogent comments concerning the dreaded COVID-19 death virus. Be careful, sheep get very angry when you upset their worldview.
It may be a DNC behind the scenes job to keep blue states locked down through the election. I guess harming the economy will help Biden to be our next president.
Yes, that's a much more reasonable explanation than "the governor doesn't want a crap ton of her constituents to die."
Keep your politics to yourself. Next time is a ban.
Are you kidding? Am I missing something? Why did you only respond to that comment when all these comments are political?
I think it was meant for everyone above in this thread. There were a lot worse threads over the past 6 weeks, some threads were so bad, I was surprised that got to survive so long.
Does it really matter if Rutgers plays?
Rutgers is hoping to get furloughed by the league