10 year scoring trend vs MSU (from r/cfb)
2004 - 45 points (UM win)
2005 - 34 points (UM win)
2006 - 31 points (UM win)
2007 - 28 points (UM win)
2008 - 21 points (MSU win)
2009 - 20 points (MSU win)
2010 - 17 points (MSU win)
2011 - 14 points (MSU win)
2012 - 12 points (UM win)
2013 - 6 points (MSU win)
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:08 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:11 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:12 PM ^
In 2004 it was 27 in regulation, but . . . yeah it's been bad these last several years.
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:11 PM ^
6 Points. Jesus that is bad. South Florida put up how many? This staff blows.
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:14 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 9:04 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:11 PM ^
in poor Michigan teams actually. 2006 and 2011 were complete anomolies.
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:12 PM ^
I think we're on track for 0-3 pts next year then
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:36 PM ^
We may go negative.
November 2nd, 2013 at 8:32 PM ^
I'm ready for it
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:12 PM ^
This year the trash tornado was our offense :(
November 2nd, 2013 at 9:32 PM ^
Plus one to you, sir.
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:12 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:13 PM ^
MSU's defense is good, but come on. Indiana put up 28, and we put up six. Does Indiana have that much more talent than we do?
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:25 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:41 PM ^
And a better O-line
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:44 PM ^
Yep. And their OL coach is Greg Frey, our old guy under RR. We may want to see if he wants to return.
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:53 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:14 PM ^
I miss Lloyd.
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:52 PM ^
Goes to you good sir. I would give my left nut for a football team like Coach Carr years back.
November 2nd, 2013 at 8:09 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 8:25 PM ^
Carr was 6-7 against OSU, and OSU was ranked in the top 10 (if not top 5) nearly every year he faced them. That record doesn't look so bad right now.
Carr was a very good coach who missed being a truly elite coach because of his reluctance to break tendencies and take more risks. In the 2008 Capital One Bowl he finally did, and it was fantastic - and looking back it was a shame he didn't have that epiphany earlier. But even with his conservatism, he was very good overall.
What is galling about today is that Dantonio has essentially followed the Carr blueprint to a T in building his program.
November 2nd, 2013 at 8:47 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 9:03 PM ^
You're making it sound worse than it was. Carr didn't lose six years in a row. It was four in a row (2004-07) - and the fourth year, Henne and Hart were badly injured but insisted on suiting up. If they had been healthy it's a very different game.
Anyway, OSU's 2006 and 2007 teams that beat us went on to play for the national title. That's pretty different from Cooper's remarkable tendency of losing to Michigan teams than were 7-3 or 6-4 beforehand.
November 2nd, 2013 at 9:06 PM ^
November 3rd, 2013 at 8:54 AM ^
No thank you to LLLLC ball.....being beaten by osu as the norm and losing to Appy St and being poinded by Oregon? Anyone remember Carr taking his team to Purdue and losing to a 3 win Purdue team that year? No thanks!!!!
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:33 PM ^
I don't know why that guy gets a pass on this board at all.
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:14 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:15 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:23 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:31 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 8:41 PM ^
November 3rd, 2013 at 12:07 PM ^
He cherry picked one of my reasons and not even the correct one, lol.
I'd say our current mess is maybe 1% on Carr, 80% Rich Rod Hates OL Recruitng, and 19% coaching (and blaming Carr is more out of possibly misguided spite than anything else).
I hoped that we would be getting more talent out of young OL, but honestly, that was in vain. History shows that anything less than a Junior OL will 95 times out of 100, result in PAIN. I think Funk gets fired early next year if there is no line improvement (which I don't think will happen but you never know). Borges is the wildcard here. If the offense struggles against Nebraska, Northwestern, and Ohio, then I don't see how he survives the offseason.
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:15 PM ^
This made me sick.
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:16 PM ^
Holy Jumpin Jesus Jehosephat. So, you mean to say that the less points we put up on the board the less likely we are to win rivalry games? You are definitely onto something my friend!
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:19 PM ^
What is the cause of this? Very interesting, and possibly not related, but I feel that it is.
What does this say about UM/MSU?
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:28 PM ^
The ball don't lie and neither do the numbers. They've won five out of six. We've become Sparty's bitch.
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:19 PM ^
I'll donate money to pay for a new O-Line coach. Borges is an enigma wrapped in a mystery inside a riddle and coated by the yellow cake of a Twinkie.
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:39 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:39 PM ^
As a CFB fan, MSU vs. OSU is a game I am really interesting in seeing.
Fans tend to overemphasize offense, but MSU's D is real and they have a good shot.
November 2nd, 2013 at 9:01 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:44 PM ^
Mark Dantonio took over in 2007. BTW.
So, yeah, he's had some success.
November 2nd, 2013 at 8:45 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 7:58 PM ^
It is all about the offensive line.
Coach Funk is a fail.
November 2nd, 2013 at 8:02 PM ^
November 2nd, 2013 at 8:41 PM ^
To be fair, MSU is better defensively now than it was then. Dantonio's defenses were nothing special in his first few years.
32 points in three games is still pretty pathetic though. That's a sign something is seriously amiss.
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:26 PM ^
So Michigan wins next year in EL by the score of 2-0.
That is going to be awesome.
November 2nd, 2013 at 11:51 PM ^
We are Alabama in the early 2000s.
November 3rd, 2013 at 12:31 AM ^
November 3rd, 2013 at 12:31 AM ^