At this point they have to cut ties with Harbaugh. There’s not a ton of talent on this roster, but the talent that is there will all be looking to transfer.

And putting together a recruiting class in this dumpster fire is going to be impossible.

Whoever takes over next season is going to have a post-Carr level mess to clean up.

I generally respect your viewpoints, but what have you seen in 5+ years of hairball's esteemed resume to say that he should remain our coach:

• 0-5 vs OSU including the 2 worst defeats in the modern era
• 3-3 vs MSU
• ZERO B1G titles and/or CFP appearances
• 1-4 bowl record
• best road win is vs #20 Northwestern
• 0-15 as an underdog

this is what we have to show for $7.5 million a year???  I'm done with this ass clown.

Wrong on Tom Allen.   And what does cultural fit even mean now after this debacle?   

Up to this year, I would say he had been reasonably successful, winning 8-10 games every year while in a difficult division.  College football happens to be a merciless sport where only four teams get a shot at the national title, which sets the bar brutally high.  It's tough for our program to clear that bar, and agonizing to think that we were right there in 2016.

But this year has been a total collapse.  Yes, we had some untimely Covid losses and have had bad injury luck, but we look absolutely terrible right now in all phases of the game.  It's shocking. 

Griffin, please quit making excuses for the guy.

If this happened or that happened  or if this was this way or that was that way...enough of this shit, that's a lot of things that happened....a lot....that was just not good enough.

He needs to go, his tenure has been haphazard, not focused, too many changes with the asst. coaches, recruiting doesn't make sense too often, lack of developing a QB. Guys like Mattison and McCaffrey leaving are just head scratching. 

He needs to GTFO asap.

Interesting observation, i.e. that the powers may be have been pushing him to be someone he isn't.

But JH needed to be pushed. Like it or not, Manball is largely dead at the top levels of college football (Wisky being a notable outlier) and even fair to good teams can run spread and RPO effectively. It seems like JH was pushed into bringing in Gattis with the expectation that he'd open it up. And sometimes they DO open it up... until they make a few mistakes and then revert to Manball runs into the line because you don't trust your QB to throw downfield.  I found it real hard to believe that Gattis was calling those off-tackle QB runs.

This in-game waffling prevents the offense from having any identity. Can you say now that you know what a "Michigan offense" looks like and be confident that they are going to run and execute that "Michigan offense", come hell or high water whenever you watch? I suspect the kids can't either. And that's a huge problem. Not having trust in the plan and trust in the coaches leads to confused, tentative, half-assed play.

It seems like this staff doesn't trust its offensive players enough to commit to a consistent plan that the players are capable of executing.  I hope they never tell these kids, "eventually, we're going to put in some more complicated stuff and really open things up."  When the time comes, just put it the wrinkles.

Maybe they shouldn't trust this team to execute all the bells and whistles that can get put in. But it sure seems like other college kids are capable of executing their respective offensive schemes well enough to have an identity. 

All this being said, 6 years in, and there really should not be this much of an identity crisis among the coaching staff.

That is looking like a Toledo-level embarrassment.  Tucker seems completely in over his head there, yet he has a win over Harbaugh.  It's unreal.