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Season Kickoff Mailbag Part 1: BPONE And What Happens If Everyone Is Hurt Comment Count

Brian August 21st, 2019 at 12:11 PM

Mailbag! Most of these are twitter questions. I'm not answering anything that's directly addressed in the upcoming season preview, so if your question didn't get picked maybe that's why. Maybe.

The Black Pit Of Negative Expectations is not a mental disorder, it is a defense technique based on a rational extrapolation of past feelings to future events. BPONE trades lower highs for higher lows and is thus a wise approach for people who may wander into the streets to rend their clothing and wail without BPONE.

BPONE is therapeutic. Never tweet during BPONE.

To me, "play every game" implies more than some goofy one-off trick plays. If I had to bet, we're going to see McCaffrey get one or two drives per game. This isn't a Henson/Brady situation where the starting job is truly being contested during the season—Patterson is the starter. It is a spot where Michigan has so much faith in their backup QB that it makes sense to get him some meaningful reps in case Patterson is unavailable at some point.

[After THE JUMP: quit asking me about worst case scenarios you BPONE maniacs]

I wouldn't file running back with the other two. Three standard deviations of bad luck there is

  • Wilson and Charbonnet both get hurt.
  • Turner can't pass protect.

Michigan's offense has a lot of stuff in it that can mitigate a guy who can't pass protect, and the brief flashes we've seen from Turner with the ball in his hands are encouraging. And maybe they can bring in Van Sumeren to pick guys up on passing downs. RB actually feels like one of the more stable situations on the team. Unless Charbonnet is an instant star the ceiling isn't high; the floor is.

I would also expand the interior pass rush concern to be more of a holistic "DTs are just guys" concern. Kemp, the steady guy who is the good run defender amongst the available options, was an average-at-best run defender last year who looked good because the guys next to him were often bad.

We know what Just Guys DTs look like: last year. Replacing Lawrence Marshall, Bryan Mone, and a little bit of Aubrey Solomon isn't going to hurt. (Losing Aubrey Solomon's potential hurts, but in terms of on-field impact dude had 4 tackles last year.) They can only get better there. Jeter and Hinton are going to have more positive impact than the three departed guys; Kemp and Dwumfour should get meaningfully better, particularly Dwumfour.

Cornerback, though… I do not like it. Deleting Ambry Thomas—and if he's not even in camp I think he might get back for the second half of the season—is real bad. Michigan has been a maniacal man-to-man team under Don Brown and now faces a situation where their second CB is an untested who-dat recruit who looked middling in spring; their third CB is probably safety Brad Hawkins.

Zone? I'm thinking zone. But that's like asking Rich Rod to run manball. It is easy to see Michigan's season founder on the rocks against good passing attacks, if any happen to develop on the schedule. Right now it's Notre Dame and maaaaybe Iowa, which at least has a couple tackles and a returning starter at QB.

Michigan did run a few snaps in a 3-1-7(!) last year featuring both Hudson and Glasgow, but those were strictly limited to passing downs. More generally, Michigan has not been able to run three-man lines without getting gashed—this comes in for more discussion in 5Q5A.

Meanwhile the Big Ten is not the Big Twelve, and Ohio State is not necessarily last year's Ohio State team. It seems like Fields is a work in progress as a pocket passer and will be much more of a runner than Haskins. The answer to "how do we beat OSU?" may not be adopting a defense that works in Air Raid, the Conference.

I don't see a whole lot of obvious candidates that I haven't already talked about. Over the course of the recruiting profiles I've asserted that Erick All should be a WR and that George Johnson III may as well play in the secondary since Michigan's going to have four slots on campus next year and he's the guy who's most safety-shaped.

Other than that it's going to be dudes bumping down from DE to DT (Julius Welschof if he's not done filling out) and other minor moves from one linebacker spot to another.

which Drevno misstep haunts your soul the most?

— Darth Burrito (@TisActuallyJohn) August 20, 2019

Alaric Jackson and it's not close. Other situations, like Michigan striking out on a series of high-profile tackles, are mitigated by the fact that Alabama and Georgia are paying kids six figures and Michigan is not. And Michigan had a decent backup plan after Leatherwood/Wilson/etc went elsewhere by picking up Stueber, Filiaga, and Honigford. Swinging at Ulizio is understandable since it's a transition class.

That leaves Jackson. For context, this was the class where Michigan booted Erik Swenson and was blindsided by Devery Hamilton decommitting. Michigan replaced those two guys with Stephen Spanellis, an interior OL. This meant a year after taking a tackle class of Ulizio, Michigan lined up zero or one tackles depending on your opinion of Ben Bredeson's viability on the outside.

Then they flipped Jackson, an in-state OL ranked in 3.5* territory by 24/7. Late recovery! Not an ideal prospect but he's an OL, so you can get dudes from three-star lottery tickets. Then they fail to send him a LOI on Signing Day. They chose air over a guy who's got a shot at going in the first round this year.

Putting Jackson on the roster radically changes Michigan's last two years. As a redshirt freshman he was the starting left tackle for an Iowa team that put up 55 points on OSU. Michigan was running out Ulizio and Juwann Bushell-Beatty on a team that got two quarterbacks hurt and would clearly have beaten both MSU and OSU with either Speight or Peters available. Replacing Bushell-Beatty with Jackson on last year's team doesn't do enough to beat OSU, probably, but Notre Dame… maybe.

Michigan didn't get beat out, they just shot themselves in the kringle-krangles. Truly the most stupefying decision since I've been paying attention to Michigan football recruiting.

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to slant or not to slant [Eric Upchurch]

Assertions like this were the cause of several testy Don Brown press conferences over the course of last year, and it seemed like he'd won the argument until the Indiana game. Then the DEs got doubled every play and Michigan didn't have the down to down blitzing that could prevent that from happening, because they had to buzz slots. Then they didn't touch Haskins against OSU thanks to injured DEs.

I can see the argument for going back to head-up or even inside leverage this year. Michigan's defense is probably taking a step back and if you're forcing long fade throws you're going to give up some big chunks but you're also more likely to get yourself in a passing down where you can put out your Uche package. And it seems like the guy most likely to be checking those routes is Brad Hawkins, a former receiver who was a jump ball maven in high school. He could be better at defending fades than slants. Probably is.

I think we might see a different approach entirely, or at least one that mixes in more zone. It's tough to predict what's going to happen when you have a long-term, extremely successful coordinator coming off two hamblastings. If I had to pick between the slot fades and the slants, this year I'm taking the fades.

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just slap some glasgow on it [Patrick Barron]

"Most" was easy until Stueber went down. Now it's WLB, where any of Gil/Glasgow/Anthony/McGrone would be fine. I guess that's still easy. Second place is outside WR, where Michigan has four outside guys who are going to be plus players this year and Cornelius Johnson. Three or four of those guys can hit the field at the same time, though. Depriving Michigan of packages where they can put DPJ in the slot and run him at a terrified safety is a hit. Also… QB? If the McCaffrey hype is real, then QB.

Least: tight end could see a huge dropoff if McKeon goes out and Eubanks hasn't improved his blocking. CB and RT, the spots that have already taken half-season hits, are also vulnerable. With CB (and safety) it depends on who gets hurt. Hill or Metellus would be very bad. Gray or Hawkins would be less of an issue.

There are non-playoff scenarios that I think people would be happy with, like going 10-2 with losses to Notre Dame and anyone but OSU, then winning the Big Ten. Honestly ND stands out as a game that will have almost no impact on how people feel about the season once it's over. Did Michigan beat OSU and win the league? Yes? Okay.

Comments

AreYouNew

August 21st, 2019 at 10:10 PM ^

It's not on Drevno one bit, unless it is the position coach's sole responsibility to personally fax/email the letter of intent to targets - which seems unlikely. This blog has a habit of fairly constrained criticism when a coach is here and then going balls-out on "it was obviously all HIS fault" theories once that coach has been discarded.

Why Brian thinks this administrative hiccup was all on Drevno is beyond me but it probably has something to do with it being the most satisfying form of scapegoating for him.

Streetchemist

August 22nd, 2019 at 9:05 AM ^

There's almost a 0% chance it was an "administrative hiccup", they did it on purpose.  I do agree that blaming it all on Drevno is hilarious.  Unless Brian knows for sure that Drevno went to Jim and said, "Jackson is bad, we shouldn't send an LOI", this being pinned on Drevno should stop.  Even if that is how it played out, it should STILL fall on Harbaugh for trusting Drevno, which has been one of his biggest mistakes so far.

Holmdel

August 21st, 2019 at 2:04 PM ^

Logged in to say I'm a fan of Jonathan Chait's writing and didn't realize he was a Michigan man and former Michigan Daily writer.  Go Jonathan Chait!  

Don

August 21st, 2019 at 2:20 PM ^

Kringle-krangles? Sounds like a pastry Mrs. Claus makes every Christmas season. What the ingredients are is anyone's guess. Dried elf nuts? Sugared reindeer snot?

BlindTiger

August 21st, 2019 at 2:43 PM ^

Is anyone else worried about Milton transferring?  He seems very eager (and you can't blame him for that).  He's got an absolute cannon and I'd really love to see him bide his time and come in a couple years down the road, but will he stick around that long?

stephenrjking

August 21st, 2019 at 5:08 PM ^

No. 

Not that someone won’t transfer, because one of the guys in the QB room is going to have to wait a long time to start. But there’s a long way to go before we get to that point. 

Milton is here. He’s on board. They’re coaching him. 

If, in the fullness of time, he falls significantly behind both top guys and looks like a good bet to get passed by a younger guy who is either currently on the roster or who is about to join it, then he’ll probably transfer... but at that point we won’t be worried about it. We’ll just understand that this is what happens. 

I was never “worried” that Peters would transfer. He did, of course, but by the time it happened Michigan had put three other guys on the field that looked like they had more upside than Peters and his transfer was fait accompli and well accepted by everyone. 

Barring a shock transfer this week, by the time we see a guy shuffle off the roster, we’ll almost certainly have a good idea that it is possible and understandable. 

njvictor

August 21st, 2019 at 6:54 PM ^

Am I worried? Kinda, not really. I feel like the QB position is in pretty good shape even if he does leave. Have no idea if he would leave if he doesn't win the job in 2020, but if McCaffrey stays in 2021, then I could def see him transferring. Either way, I'm not too nervous especially with McNamara, Johnson, and McCarthy lined up

los barcos

August 21st, 2019 at 2:44 PM ^

Must have slept through the whole Alaric Jackson saga.  I know Brian has been talking about him for some time now, but just assumed he wanted to come and we never offered.  What's the actual story here - I imagine this was a non-commitable offer?  (Seems to make more sense than the fact that some dope never sent over an LOI).  

 

EDIT: Ah, discussed above.  Apologies.  

markusr2007

August 21st, 2019 at 2:50 PM ^

I just want to say that, in the context of Michigan football, BPONE has existed for decades.

It is nothing new.

C3P0 said it best: "We seem to be made to suffer. It's our lot in life."

 

 

M Ascending

August 21st, 2019 at 4:17 PM ^

Back in my (and Bo's) day, BPONE was known as the "Michigan Screw." It was exemplified by the incredible number of games that we should have won but found a way, in the end, to lose; often under ridiculous circumstances.  Check out The Big Chill football viewing scene. "We're not supposed to lose until the 4th quarter!" MSU 2015 would have been the ultimate, all-time Michigan Screw, were the term still in use. 

Benthom11

August 21st, 2019 at 3:13 PM ^

Finally someone says that RB isn't a big issue.  I haven't understood this feeling that RB is a big problem spot just cause Evans and Higdon are gone.  

 

CB depth is scary, and pretty mind blowing.  Ambry's injury and Myles Sims' transfer are a large reason for the current situation, but the '19 and '20 classes have me a bit worried for the future too.  Hopefully they can land one of the remaining targets for '20 and Perry, Turner, Green, Seldon develop.  

mwolverine1

August 21st, 2019 at 7:34 PM ^

It's because we want to beat OSU and go to the playoffs. If you want to do that, you need difference makers at all positions. Or someone transcendent somewhere else to make up for it. Our RB crew could yield a difference maker but they are almost entirely unproven. When you compare what we're expecting out of them to past playoff teams, it's hard to see us coming out favorably. 

And yes these are very high standards, but the fanbase has made it clear these are the expectations. 

bdneely4

August 22nd, 2019 at 8:56 AM ^

I understand your point in that we want difference makers at almost every position to compete with OSU, but I don't think RB is that position where we don't have that.  What is the difference between what we have this year in RBs and what OSU had when Dobbins was a true freshman?  We have Tru, Turner and Charbonnet.  OSU had Dobbins and Weber who were both pretty unproven at that time.  Charbonnet and Dobbins had very similar recruiting rankings.  There are positions to fear when comparing our team to an OSU team, but I don't really think RB is that position this year.

Mgoeffoff

August 21st, 2019 at 3:48 PM ^

There are non-playoff scenarios that I think people would be happy with, like going 10-2 with losses to Notre Dame and anyone but OSU, then winning the Big Ten. Honestly ND stands out as a game that will have almost no impact on how people feel about the season once it's over. Did Michigan beat OSU and win the league? Yes? Okay.

Any scenario is OK so long as we beat OSU & MSU and win the B1G.  The problem with that scenario is it means we can likely only lose one or fewer conference games because OSU never loses two.  That as always is a tall order.

LJ

August 21st, 2019 at 9:18 PM ^

Yeah, but OSU never loses two because they never lose to us.  If you're presuming we beat OSU (really a prerequisite to winning the division), it's pretty likely OSU ends up with two conference losses, and we could have two as well and still win the division with the tiebreaker.

Mgoeffoff

August 21st, 2019 at 11:07 PM ^

They have an incredibly easy schedule.  They get MSU, Wiscy, & PSU at home.  Assuming they lose to UM, their most difficult road game would be Nebraska, NW, or Indiana.  It's hard to see them loosing any of those, but you never know if things go south on Day & Fields.

stephenrjking

August 21st, 2019 at 5:11 PM ^

Hard to see any scenarios where this year’s OSU game isn’t the most important game since the 1998 Rose Bowl. It is, almost certainly, the last available focal point in the timelines in which Michigan either stakes a place amongst elite programs or slides into permanent second-tier status. 

LJ

August 21st, 2019 at 9:21 PM ^

Seriously?  People say this every damn year.  If either UM or OSU is out of the playoff picture, the game is very likely less important than 2018 and 2016.

And what's with this "if we don't win this game, we're going to be permanently relegated to second-tier" that people are always saying?  What on earth is that based on?  We've been losing this game for almost 20 years and no on thinks we're permanently second-tier now.  Why this this year suddenly so important?

Bill22

August 22nd, 2019 at 12:26 AM ^

You sure about that?  I don’t think any impartial observers see Michigan as an elite program right now.  I think that’s what he’s saying.  Beat OSU and we are back in that discussion.  Lose and we will continue to take a back seat to the big boy programs (Ala, Clem, Ok, Ga and OSU).

LJ

August 22nd, 2019 at 7:57 AM ^

Obviously we're not an elite program right now.  That's not what these people are saying.  They're saying, "if we don't win this MEGA IMPORTANT game THIS YEAR, that's it for us.  Permanently second tier."  There's no basis for that.  Instead, it's what you're saying.  We'll be second class until we start winning these games, but when we start winning them, we'll be back in that discussion.  Just like every year.

Bodogblog

August 22nd, 2019 at 11:39 AM ^

Yes, exactly this.  In a similar vein it's, "If Michigan doesn't beat OSU this year, they never will", or "If Michigan doesn't beat OSU this year, when will they".  IF NOT NOW, WHEN????? 

I don't know, maybe next year? 

These types of things apply to the MSU's of the world, trying to climb the ladder and hit elite status.  They have to have several years of great seasons (check for MSU), then translate that to recruiting (check for MSU, but then they raped everybody), then translate that better recruiting to sustainable results at an elite level (/wrong answer buzzer, 3-9, recruiting has fallen off a cliff), and then it's possible to hold it and jump into the elite tier. 

That's not true of Michigan, i.e. it doesn't work in reverse at a blue blood.  Any time you get a good coach at Michigan you can recover and get back to elite status.  Someone could argue Tennessee, but we're no where near UT levels of failure. 

MGoShorts

August 21st, 2019 at 5:20 PM ^

Is it just me or does McCaffrey always run with the facial expression of a man who really needs to take a dump?

Vasav

August 21st, 2019 at 5:37 PM ^

Yea, going to the Rose Bowl after beating Ohio State would have me way more amped than getting into a playoff. Beat Ohio is goal 1. Win the big ten is goal 2 (and heavily dependent on goal 1). Playoff is something I care about, but not a whole lot, although it's pretty dependent on the first 2 anyway.

ShadowStorm33

August 21st, 2019 at 5:46 PM ^

Honestly ND stands out as a game that will have almost no impact on how people feel about the season once it's over.

I get what you’re saying, but I’m going to be really pissed if we lose to ND. It’s bad enough that Harbaugh and Warde had to rush them back on the schedule, when it meant two straight road games, opening the season there last year and having them in the middle of our B1G schedule this year. That reeked of desperation, and having to play them on the road week 1 probably cost us last year’s game. But they better not go 0-2. 

I don’t care enough about having ND on the schedule to bend over backwards for them only to lose the games on top of it. I’d much rather go 2-0 against Arkansas (who’s games we had to back out of to fit ND) than 0-2 against ND.

Bill22

August 22nd, 2019 at 12:31 AM ^

Originally I was glad Harbaugh made a hard push to get ND back on the schedule ASAP.  Growing up, it was my favorite game of the year.  First or second week of the season, tons of excitement, nationally televised and we often won!  I imagine Harbaugh felt the same way about it.  In retrospect, I agree with this take.  It was a bad deal and it’s probably time to kill this ‘rivalry’ for good.

bdneely4

August 22nd, 2019 at 9:04 AM ^

I had a similar perspective with ND and thought well at least we will get them home at the beginning of 2019.  Then I looked at the schedule and realized our home game was towards the latter part of the year in the middle of a grueling B1G schedule.  Warde did not negotiate this well.

Bill22

August 21st, 2019 at 11:52 PM ^

My prediction has been 10-2 with a loss to ND and someone besides OSU with a Big Ten Championship and no playoff bid.  Everyone should be very happy if that’s the final result, regardless of the Bowl outcome.  Beat OSU and win Big Ten must be accomplished.  Anything above and beyond that is gravy.

Alumnus93

August 22nd, 2019 at 4:20 AM ^

Great write-up on Alaric Jackson...and I do actually remember Brian being pissed at the time we passed on him.  Wonder who actually decided not to send Jackson's LOI.  Did Drevno as OL coach, have full authority? Or does this get decided by Harbaugh ?  This one seems so odd, especially when so many here were in angst for the incessant OG takes and no OT.