Sam says Oats would come

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Brian May 16th, 2019 at 2:02 PM

Wilson Decommits

Jalen Wilson will not in fact wait for the new hire to start looking around:

In my opinion, this is Bad.

Roundtable Revelations

Let me transcribe a bit of the WTKA roundtable for you here. First from Sam on Billy Donovan:

"The talk in coaching circles is that … he was really a cheater in a huge, huge way early in his tenure. And then, as he got established he didn't do it any more. … There's like a before and after Anthony Grant."

Grant was at Florida for the first half of Donovan's 19-year tenure in Gainesville. His departure in 2006 was between Donovan's two national titles; after the second title team Donovan had his worst stretch after getting established at Florida with a three year run in which Florida went 8-8, 9-7, and 9-7 with just one first round exit to show for it. After that Donovan went on a four year run that went E8, E8, E8, FF and won the SEC title three times.

So if the coaching chatter is true Donovan had an extended run of elite teams in a post-Grant world. Coaching chatter is just that—when Roy Williams got Donovan investigated they didn't turn anything up. Potentially informative about Donovan's ability to operate within the strictures Michigan would put on any head coach.

[UPDATE: also potentially irrelevant since Sam says Donovan took a pass. At least they poked?]

Then Sam on Nate Oats:

"Nate would not interview. If you're going to go after Nate Oats, you have to give him the job. … If you offered Nate the job, would he come? Yeah. My opinion. … You call him you can get him. You can get Nate."

Later:

"Let me be clear for Nate's benefit: I have neither seen nor heard anything about Nate Oats being a candidate for this job."

And on Juwan Howard:

"[Lack of head coaching experience] is not a disqualifier for Juwan Howard … He's the exception. I'm not telling you that he's going to be the guy but he is definitely under consideration for this job. He is not looking at any other college options. He's gonna be a pro coach at some point."

He also asserted that it was unlikely to be an internal hire. Like everyone, he's on board with doing as much as possible to keep staff continuity.

[After THE JUMP: It turns out I don't hate the idea of Shaka!]

The most NBA Jam candidate

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Shaka Smart has been brought up. You may remember him from such games as Shaka Smart Is Shown His Liver By John Beilein and such recruitments as Not Quite Getting Mo Bamba. Shaka has a giant, fully-guaranteed contract but Texas might be happy to let him walk after a disappointing four year tenure.

Texas has two bids in that time, a 6 and a 10, with two first-round exits. They did win the NIT this year, and Smart has some mitigating factors. 5-star PG Andrew Jones was set to be a star after a high-usage freshman year; he was diagnosed with leukemia shortly after and has played just 12 games since. Smart's also lost a ton of tight games over the past three years. Texas in Kenpom's "luck" stat: 348, 263, 332. Shaka's VCU tenure did not have a similar pattern. It's likely the luck is just that.

Like a lot of B12 teams, Smart's Kenpom rankings are better than his record (39, 70, 36, 25 at Texas FWIW), but guys like Steve Prohm aren't at Texas. Smart has leveraged his spot in Austin into elite recruiting classes. In four years he's gotten three five-stars and nine more guys in the 40-70 range. Jaxson Hayes, one of the only sleeper-ish recruits Smart has gotten, is projected as a lottery pick in the upcoming draft. Texas is recruiting better than anyone other than the one-and-done blueblood factories. And they were in the NIT this year.

His VCU tenure was legitimately excellent, outstanding even outside of the Final Four run. Smart never had a team ranked worse than 56th on Kenpom and went 18, 25, 30 in his final three years. Five straight bids with a couple 5 seeds and a 7 from an A10 program is superb. But:

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Havoc did not come with Smart to Texas. This is like watching a John Beilein team suddenly degrade to average in TO rate once he gets a major job. What's the point of Shaka without Havoc? So far there isn't much of one.

Shaka is in a spot where you can only get him if you don't really want him. Maybe you could squint and put Shaka's recruiting with Yaklich's defense and that would work out, but that's apparently contingent on out-bidding the Cavs. Here's a 180: I hate the idea of Shaka way less than most of the fanbase. An assassin on the recruiting trail has a relatively high floor, and Michigan would be buying low on a guy who's been snakebit the last few years.

Etc.

Porter Moser's name has receded and he just hired an assistant so chances are that early blip was just folks looking around for the guy who fits the "Michigan Man" stereotype most thoroughly. At least you are learning this with a link and not a tweet that starts with "Sources: Porter Moser" pasted into your slack chat:

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Thoughts and prayers for me in this trying time.

Chris Beard: still nope.

"He's a great coach. He has history at Texas Tech and he proved he can win there immediately,” ESPN college basketball analyst and former Michigan player Tim McCormick said. “He's a hero and he makes a ton of money, so I think it's really going to be a challenge for Michigan to get him.

“If he was interested, I would think that that process would've already started, and it doesn't appear that that's the direction it's going."

This puts the talk about his daughters down in print:

As McCormick pointed out, whether Beard would even be interested in Michigan is another matter, especially considering his daughters live a few hours from Lubbock.

Guy is getting paid a brazillion dollars and has a very compelling reason not to go far away.

EMOTIONAL DEVASTATION LEVEL

8.3, why Wilson gotta go like that cool it for like a week

Comments

Blue_In_Texas

May 16th, 2019 at 2:47 PM ^

Guys - 

I live in Austin, Texas and have seen many UT bball games the last few years. I am not a huge college bball fan other than watching M, so I don't have a ton of input on the coaching change, other than to say that Shaka Smart would be an awful choice. Period. I cannot stress strongly enough how poorly he underperforms in a weak league. Please, God, anyone but him. 

vanarbor

May 16th, 2019 at 2:57 PM ^

Yak would be a horrible hire, it's entirely overreaction and recency bias from the fanbase. This guy was in high school a few years ago.

He would not be close to a candidate if it was literally ANY other program, let alone us. Let's not pretend Yak didn't have talented defenders to begin with, it's not like he turned the 2013 or 2014 team into elite defenders.

I love Yak but Saddi is miles ahead. I'd hire Shaka 10 times out of 10 over him.

Laser Wolf

May 16th, 2019 at 3:30 PM ^

So is the assumption that Anthony Grant was the driver of some of the shady shit at UF? I ask as a Dayton grad and Flyers fan where Grant is now coach. I’m not saying it’s wrong, just surprised as there was never a whiff of it while head coach at VCU or Bama. 

MMB 82

May 16th, 2019 at 3:33 PM ^

For me, it boils down to not being interested in professional sports; this is just another reason to move the needle closer to outright ennui.

jpwarner

May 16th, 2019 at 3:35 PM ^

It can't be stated enough how badly Beilein screwed us with his timing. Amazes me how little regard he had/has for leaving his hard-earned 12 year legacy in the hands of someone capable. Seems like he just slunk out in the middle of the night, without even giving advance notice to players/assistants.

freejs

May 16th, 2019 at 3:43 PM ^

If this damn school lets money get in the way of getting Oats, I swear to fucking God 

A splash hire is all that could save us right now and that's a splash hire - if he's really available, go get him FFS 

 

 

freejs

May 16th, 2019 at 4:04 PM ^

Yes - anyone who thinks there's a recruit in the country who didn't watch Buffalo in the tournament and wasn't excited by their style of play 

Well, they are wrong. 

They played swaggering heavy metal basketball and I played with enough guys back when I could hoop to know that specific kind of basketball really draws notice. 

 

ERdocLSA2004

May 16th, 2019 at 3:50 PM ^

Hey Brian, what would you consider “buying low” to be for Shaka?  He may be on the hot seat but still has a job and contract, which we would likely have to out bid to get him to come here.  So we’d be paying a guy more money to get him away from his current school that doesn’t seem too keen on him currently.

I guess what I’m saying is I don’t see how we get him at a reasonable price unless he gets fired first.  His contract is pretty huge.

Sambojangles

May 16th, 2019 at 6:18 PM ^

I think it's about performance more than price. Shaka's "stock" was highest coming out of his string of success at VCU, and he cashed in by moving up to Texas. It's down now given the lack of success at Texas, but it's not like he forgot to coach. The bad luck and recruiting numbers indicate he has what it takes, so the time for Michigan to "buy" is now, since he may bounce back and solidify himself in Texas with a couple good years (remember Beilein didn't make the Sweet 16 until year 6, Smart has only been there 4 years).

MC5-95

May 16th, 2019 at 3:59 PM ^

I don't understand why on earth Shaka Smart would want to retain Luke Yaklich. Everyday he'd be looking over his shoulder at a potential successor who's more popular with the fanbase from the start. 

I also don't hate the idea of Shaka as coach. I'd rather go with Juwan or Yaklich though.

bronxblue

May 16th, 2019 at 4:07 PM ^

I don't dislike Shaka Smart either, but that still feels like a weird mix for Michigan.  

I'd be fine with Howard or, to a lesser extent, Smart.  I didn't realize that Smart is younger than Howard for 4 years; it's crazy how long he's been a coach at the D1 level.  It could be a situation like Beilein had for a couple years there where his teams scuttled a bit as luck, injuries, and misses in recruiting wore him down.  I honestly do wonder if Howard would want to coach college, though.

But if UM can't get a bigger-name, especially HC or a guy like Howard (or Becky Hammon!), I think going with Yak or Washington would be better than the buzz around guys like a Cooley.

DCGrad

May 16th, 2019 at 4:26 PM ^

My only issue with Juwan is how long will he be here?  Sam has said multiple times that Juwan wants to be an NBA coach some day.  The question is would we want Juwan as a temporary stop gap (2-3 years maybe) or a guy who may be here for as many years as allowed?

If Smart wins, I don't think he will leave.  Same for Saddi and Yak.  Juwan?  I think he would leave for the first NBA job he was offered.

Jota09

May 16th, 2019 at 5:09 PM ^

That is a bummer about Jalen Wilson, but I'm really struggling to care that much.  At this point, the program hiring the right coach is much more important than our recruiting class.  We will put a respectable team on the floor with or without Wilson as long as we have a coach who knows what he's doing.

I'm a little annoyed that Donovan passed.  He was the one guy that most of us would get excited about.  I could get behind Juwan, Oats, Prohm, and a few others that have been mentioned.  Shaka I'm not sure of.  It is baffling to me he wouldn't bring havoc with him to Texas.  I guess he thought he could just win with better recruits.  Makes me question his coaching chops unless there is some other reason.  

The more people that pass, the closer we are to Tim Miles.  

Carolina Wolverine

May 16th, 2019 at 5:32 PM ^

If the background checks work out, just offer the job to Steve Prohm. Smart wouldn’t be a bad choice at all. I agree Texas probably just isn’t the right place for him. In AA, he probably wouldn’t get quite the recruits he gets at Texas, but he wouldn’t get the guys getting ready for the draft in December either. 

 

L'Carpetron Do…

May 17th, 2019 at 10:16 AM ^

I hate the idea of Chaka Smart. I call this the Wade Phillips phenomenon - how a mediocre coach is somehow always considered for every hot position that comes open (I know Phillips eventually settled into being an excellent D-coordinator recently but as a head coach he was awful but was still mentioned for like every coaching vacancy for years. See also Brian Schottenheimer).