I’m paraphrasing, but Brian said a Ferentz-Gattis matchup with no talent.

So no, we did not see that last year.

I brought that up in the thread about no longer playing MSU.

We don't need to play MSU every year. They are trash morally.  They need us, we are their season.

I'd sign a petition to make it every other year.

Yeah, you see that often enough in games that I'd classify it as two guys just getting worked up.

Back in the Tressel era, OSU's Robert Reynolds choked the Wisconsin QB (Jim Sorgi) when he was down after a play.  IIRC, Reynolds tried to pull something on Chris Perry also, but got shoved off him.

(EDIT: I should really scroll down before replying.)

Here is the play.  Right after the play is over the D-lineman for OSU twists Perry's ankle and you can see Perry immediately grab it.  I'm still pissed about that.

Dantonio was such a piece of dirty shit.

Tony Henderson #79 piling on already knocked down Ohio St. QB Kirk Herbstreit in 1991 comes to mind.  There are plenty of examples of poor sportsmanship in UM vs. Ohio St. That's gonna happen in rivalry games at times.

But at MSU the problem is endemic because it's a program made up of 2nd/3rd choices, indignant rejects, also rans, transfers and all out thugs who should not be playing college football.

https://youtu.be/f4J4s2Z0xMY 

Or we didn't need to use the passing game because we were running at will. McCarthy completed 60% of his passes and we didn't have to punt until garbage time. 

This is a little harsh but I agree that the passing attack underwhelmed in this game. I think we have a group of really talented receivers but it seems like they are being underutilized. We're going to need them in big games, especially against Ohio State and I hope the coaching staff has them ready.  It seems like every drop back goes to Schoonmaker or Edwards out of the backfield. 

A few weeks ago I told my buddies "I hope Harbaugh doesn't get so obsessed with running the ball that they don't even try to test State's secondary". And that's what happened. Ultimately it didn't matter but I thought this game was pretty frustrating for long stretches and we made their terrible backfield look pretty good. This could've been a 350-passing-yard game/coming out party for McCarthy but instead he had like 150 yards. I mean, it's fine, I guess? He's trying to perfect the blueprint that will beat Ohio State - but they're going to need to throw the ball too. M has a capable QB and good WRs, they should use them. 

Michigan averaged 5+ yards/carry, with a long of 17. MSU sat back and dared Michigan to run, so they did. Don't get bored with success. Did a few too many field goals get attempted? Maybe. But that was the case until the last two or so conference games a year ago.

Not sure why this is negged.  State sat back but then held us to field goals.  We played right in their plan, but their offense got throttled.  The defense may be unable to suffocate better teams

They are really good, but man are they brutal to watch.  The second half against Nebraska was terrible football.  

With that said, I'm going to enjoy watching them pound the shit out of Sparty this weekend.

I disagree with you.  Schoon makes some great catches and his hands are better than the WR's IMO.

And about Michigan passing more to the WR's?  What are you going to do, take carries away from Corum?  Stop passing to one of the best TE's in college football?  Stop passing do Edwards out of the backfield?  What one of the above  are you going to cut back on to pass more to the WR's?

Agreed

The actual humans I know that went to MSU are disgusted by their teams actions. I have heard rumors that 20 more players are being investigated for further suspensions.

I'm pretty sure posters to /r/cfb self-select to go beyond pure tribalism. And on top of that, the voting system buries the shit posts. If you're nasty there, then you'll face the wrath of every other fan base in CFB, and not a lot of people have the time and pathology to go down that path.

Also re: MSU media…We don’t know about the first assault without Matt Charboneau. Matt Wenzel (MLive) wrote a column unequivocally condemning MSU. Hell, even Couch wrote something along the lines saying Tucker needs to feel heat now and moving forward due to his players’ assault.

Comparoni is trash. Many fans are trash. Not all of the MSU beat is parroting the trashiest of the trash tunnel takes.

He explained it badly (off the cuff - it happens), but there is absolutely nothing conspiratorial about lazy corrupt rentier aristocrats not doing their jobs.  Crissakes half my professional life is trying to get others to do their jobs, employees and contractors with financial need to stay employed, and these administration bigwigs are a hundred times worse.  They want nothing more than to do nothing, especially when that's the more lucrative option.

So when presented with a problem where doing something (something real) is a lot of messy work for the upside of "it's right", vs. just sit on their hands and watch the money roll in (because Dave is right - this kind of crap is good for TV), I mean. . . what else would happen?  Accountability?  Now that's dreaming.  Dave is absolutely not crazy for concluding that these corrupt asshats will choose to do nothing.  It's what they do!  It's all they do!*

*Except change the rules midseason for Ohio State

Upvoted 100%.  Tucker inherited a program of thugs.  We don’t have enough information about him to know if he encourages it, but I don’t get the impression that he does

The answer is pretty simple, kick the 4 guys suspended out of the football program and out of the school.  Tell them to go elsewhere.  Do that once, make it your policy for the future, and this kind of crap will end.  If any other Division 1 or 2 team/school wants them, they know exactly what they’re getting.  You think George Perles or Duffy Daughtery would put up with this behavior?  No way.

Swinging a helmet at someone’s head could easily be considered a felony.

You could literally kill someone or send them to the hospital.

There is no justification. What the fuck.

10 (or 7 or whatever) on 1 is NOT a fight. 

They literally broke a dudes nose. Swinging a helmet and striking the back of the head if a guy could be very dangerous if not lethal (and he did it multiple times,  not just once!)

Im sorry but I don’t understand takes like this. Even on a football field this behavior is well beyond the pale. The fact it happened well after the game as both teams are walking in the tunnel, and one of the guys attacked wasn’t even in full pads or a helmet? Fucking hell that SHOULD land a few people in jail. This isn’t just “guy got punched once on the field” which is typically just suspension territory.  We’re into aggravated assault territory with literal physical damages. The sort of thing that would cause jail time if it happened on the street. 

What a horrendous take. That stuff wouldn't happen on the field. You don't see 10 on 1 beatdowns when both teams are present. A player may swing a helmet once, but people are going to step in and stop him, not run away like the MSU employee did. Thuggish behavior was elevated to criminal when players thought no one would stop them. Sadly, they were correct about that.