Mailbag: Coachin' Poachin', Injury Redshirts, Shelton Johnson And Shelton Johnson, The Only Good Sports Movie
Will someone raid the braintrust this offseason? [Bryan Fuller]
Coaching turnover?
In your last UV you talked about how there's basically air behind Tom Herman as far as possibly available decent head coaches go. What are the odds that Don Brown gets poached by someone? Is that something he would be looking for?
DJ
Also:
What are the chances that one of our coordinators gets a look a high level job? Jedd Fisch or Tim Drevno probably are most at risk? Wheatley probably stays to fill in one of their roles if they go so he can be with his son for a few more year so that’s probably not a huge deal. Is this something that is concerning to you? I didn’t see it specifically flagged in your post today, nor did it really matter with Durkin moving on and the staff staying put.
Similarly, any shot at OSU getting some of their staff poached (and maybe less loyalty to Urban for a chance to move up the ranks)?
Go Blue!
-Jim Dudnick BBA ‘01
Don Brown is a minimal threat to leave. He's 61 and is a DC lifer in the same way that Bud Foster is. Nobody gets a first-time head coaching gig in their 60s unless they've been promoted from within. FWIW, when Michigan hired him Jim Harbaugh said he went into that hire trying to find someone who could provide some stability and Brown provides that. This is another reason grabbing Brown was such a good move.
Things are more uncertain on the offensive side of the ball, where both Fisch and Drevno could pop up on smaller schools' radars. Fisch has already been mentioned as a potential option at FIU by Bruce Feldman. Drevno hasn't come up yet. Meanwhile they're coordinator types under Jim Harbaugh, who runs the show on O. Usually guys like that have to put in at least five years before they start getting mentioned.
Meanwhile, these days the pay bump when you get a head job at a smaller school is small or even nonexistent. Ron Turner was making 550k at FIU; Drevno is at 800k. There aren't many non-Power 5 schools who could make a compelling offer to high-paid Michigan assistants.
Fisch is 40; Drevno is 47. Both have some time to find the right opportunity before their window of opportunity shuts. They're likely to be patient, passing up jobs like FIU as they wait for a Power 5 opening like DJ Durkin got. Even then, do you want to sign up for a meat grinder like Purdue? Probably not.
I can't say with certainty that both guys will be back but I wouldn't worry about losing them to an AAC team, and it doesn't look like there will be any plausible openings in the Big Ten this year. (Purdue: nope.) I'd bet Michigan gets everybody back.
[After THE JUMP: redshirts, Shelton Johnsons, omnipotence paradoxes]
Injury redshirts
Hey MGoStaff,
The big downer from Saturday is it looks like Jeremy Clark suffered a season-ending injury. Assuming that is the case, is he eligible for a 6th year? What is the process for obtaining that 6th year? What are the odds he gets it?Much has been made about how many redshirts have been "burned" so far this season? I seem to recall that a player can redshirt even if they play a few snaps early in the season. Is that true? What's the cutoff?
- socrking
Players can get a year back as long as they only played in the first four games of the season. One snap after that and it's over, as Mario Ojemudia found out a year ago. But anything up to four is fine. In the event that a true senior suffered the same injury Clark did, his return would be a slam dunk.
Clark already took a redshirt year, though, and that complicates things. To get a sixth year a player has to lose two years of competition to injury. Many freshman redshirts are voluntary and don't count. Clark will have to prove that he was hurt as a freshman to return next year.
Here is the part where I say that's touch and go since the NCAA is so persnickety about sixth years, but since MSU manage to scam one for Ed Davis—who dressed, travelled, won multiple scout team player of the week awards, and was the recipient of frequent press conference hype—maybe the doors are wide open? I don't recall news that Clark was injured as a freshman but at least his MGoBlue bio isn't selling him out by implying he was healthy.
The process for getting a sixth year is to wait until the guy graduates, assemble your paperwork, and apply. I couldn't tell you the odds because I'm not sure if he was injured as a freshman, how injured he was, or how Ed Davis got his sixth year. The latter suggests they're pretty good, as does Harbaugh's assertion that they'll try.
As for Michigan getting some redshirts back for players who have seen the field: yes, that is possible if they did not play against Rutgers and don't play the rest of the year. Guys who are definitely not getting that year back: Gary, Onwenu, Bredeson, Evans, Asiasi, McKeon, Crawford, McDoom, Kemp, Bush, Mbem-Bosse, Hill, Hudson, and Metellus. Players who have seen the field but could still be eligible for a medical redshirt: Eubanks, Nate Johnson, Kingston Davis, Dwumfour, Gil, Uche, and Long.
They'd have to have medical documentation that those guys were hurt, and that might raise some eyebrows. OTOH, football is tough and everyone's always kind of hurt. I'd guess that at least a couple of the nominally burned redshirts get restored.
How to give us Amazon's money.
Hello,
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Go Blue,
Dillon
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The other Shelton Johnson.
Park ranger Shelton Johnson
For context to the following email, when I did Shelton Johnson's recruiting profile I noted that there is a famous park ranger named Shelton Johnson, which made the Google image search a bit of a surprise. Serendipitously, Shelton turns out to be a Michigan alum:
Hello!
This is Park Ranger Shelton Johnson. I had noticed that there's a football player with the same name who currently is on the roster for the UM football team.
I just wanted to communicate with you folks that yes, I am from Detroit, MI, but that I'm also a graduate of the Univ. of Michigan ('81) with a B.A. in English Literature. I was also invited by the Univ. of MI to give the commencement speech for graduating English majors back in 2011. I was a student in Michigan's M.F.A. Program in Creative Writing before I became a National Park Ranger. While I was a student at Michigan I also won a Major Hopwood Award in Poetry.
One of your bloggers did note that I worked with the film maker Ken Burns on his documentary film "The National Parks, America's Best Idea" which came out on PBS back in 2009. I also convinced Oprah Winfrey to camp in Yosemite in 2010, I'm a published novelist, and I've had quite a bit of media coverage due to my work to restore the once forgotten history of the Buffalo Soldiers who protected Yosemite and Sequoia National Parks over 100 years. That's why there are photographs of me on line wearing a Spanish American War era cavalry uniform.
If you go to my Wikipedia page you'll also find a photograph of myself with President Obama at the White House which was taken back in 2009. I was there with Ken Burns because of his National Park Film. I've had articles/profiles about my work in media such as the New York Times, the San Francisco Chronicle, the L.A. Times, ABC News, the CBS Sunday Morning Show, National Public Radio, Sunset Magazine, and the New Yorker magazine.
The funny thing about all of this is that when I first heard about the "Other" Shelton Johnson, I wondered "who is this football player who keeps coming up when my name is googled?"
Please pass on my regards to Mr. Shelton Johnson, and let him know that I wish him all success in his career at Michigan, and beyond!
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
The "Other" Shelton Johnson
Yosemite Valley
Yosemite National Park
Yosemite CA 95389
This has been your Michigan Difference of the week.
QB futures.
Hi Brian,
Purely for fun, with Speight having two years of eligibility remaining, Peters redshirting, and McCaffrey part of the 2017 class, How would you handicap the qb situation playing out, say, over the next 5 years?
Thanks,
Troy Mamas
Hudson, OH
The most likely scenario is that Speight starts for three years. Voluntary removal of a starting quarterback only happens to Al Borges recruits—
*record scratch*
—oh, right.
While Speight starting for three years is still the most likely proposal, there was a ton of chatter inside the program about how impressive Brandon Peters was this spring and fall; since he is a true freshman he should get better faster than Speight and I would not put it past Harbaugh to install a guy he recruited if Speight continues playing like he has this season. If he hits that Rudock improvement trajectory then it's his job, obviously. It's say it's 60-40 Speight, with McCaffrey redshirting.
Uh....
Or maybe a question for a one-play one-on-one with him: If Michigan threw a bubble screen to Jabrill Peppers lined up out wide, would SAM Jabrill Peppers tackle him for loss, or could ball carrier Jabrill Peppers evade SAM Jabrill Peppers?
-Eric
Can God make a stone he cannot move? Did this email throw me down a Wikipedia hole after I googled and found the Omnipotence paradox article? I don't know, and yes.
Precursors and omens.
Hey Guys,
I'm afraid you are sadly mistaken on the Khalid Hill 7-10 Block... Similar blocks have occurred before. One particular in quite dramatic fashion!
Ronnie "Sunshine" Bass accomplished a similar feat on the final play of the championship game in Remember the Titans! Enjoy:
Ye gods, I had never seen a second from this movie. It is a bad movie. The only good sports movie ever made is 8 Mile. I swear to God anyone who mentions Happy Gilmore in the comments will have had their eyes replaced by bananas. We took your eyes! We gave them to someone who can use them for good, like a sushi chef! You have to look through bananas now!
October 13th, 2016 at 3:00 PM ^
ANYONE THAT DOESN'T LIST SLAPSHOT AS THE GREATEST SPORT MOVIE OF ALL TIME, is a communist buckeye fan! /s
October 13th, 2016 at 3:03 PM ^
I think what we've learned today is that Brian has horrible taste in films. I bet he liked Gigli and Jersey Girl.
/packs bags for Bolivia
October 13th, 2016 at 3:05 PM ^
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October 13th, 2016 at 3:15 PM ^
That Shelton Johnson email is an all-timer. Not WD burns down Dave Brandon level but pretty great entertainment value.
October 13th, 2016 at 3:41 PM ^
October 13th, 2016 at 4:01 PM ^
As a big fan of Ken Burns' work, I thought Shelton did a great job in the National Parks series. He and Shelby Foote (in The Civil War) are two of the best of inteviews in all of Ken's works IMO.
October 13th, 2016 at 4:05 PM ^
I haven't seen the National Parks series yet but I learned last week that Ken Burns is a Pioneer graduate and that his dad taught at Michigan. I thought that was cool
October 13th, 2016 at 4:08 PM ^
I was just reading Shelton's wiki and it says he's a Cass Tech class of '76 grad. Small world...
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Honestly, I'm surprised that Schiano couldn't get a decent job. He pissed off a lot of people, but he turned Rutgers - Rutgers - into a legit program. He had the Bucs going in the right direction before they canned him and then they went right back to the dumps again (with Illinois's current coach). The guy rubs people the wrong way, he has some bad PSU connection, but the dude can flat out coach. How he didn't latch on somewhere is a bit of a mystery.
Also, "Remember the Titans" is a good movie. It's sappy Disney at its finest. It's also Denzel Washington in his prime, which is one of the greatest actors of all time during his best years.
Not likely "Happy Gilmore"... well... you're wrong.
"The Big Lebowski" is essentially a bowling movie, and frames the story around bowling. It certainly isn't your standard sports movie, but the whole movie is even paced like bowling.
But it isn't the only good bowling movie, I mean, we already know there are struggles enjoying great "dumb" comedies, but "Kingpin" is awesome.
Not to be outdone, Woody Harrelson is also great in "White Men Can't Jump".
Movies like "The Bad News Bears" (the original) greatly mix the abilities of Walter Matthau and his ability to be both funny and a great dramatic actor.
"Field of Dreams" is just one of the greatest movies of all time, and stars the great James Earl Jones.
But James Earl Jones also stars in one of the greatest mix of family/sports movies with a movie called "The Sandlot".
Rapid Fire:
"Raging Bull", "Rocky", "Major League", "The Fighter", "The Hustler", "Moneyball", "Cinderella Man", "Million Dollar Baby", "The Wrestler, "Talladega Nights", "Eight Men Out", "The Mighty Ducks", "Dodge Ball", "Space Jam", "Warrior", "Finding Forrester", "Rocky" sequels, "Horse Feathers", "Requiem for a Heavyweight", "The Hurricane", "Caddyshack", and "Rush", all good to great sports movies for what they are, whether framed around sports or about sports themselves.
And that doesn't even bring into play sports docs.
October 13th, 2016 at 3:21 PM ^
Cinderella Man
C'mon, the 2006 team's theme film and a great movie.
October 13th, 2016 at 3:23 PM ^
--Raging Bull
--Rocky 1
--Field of Dreams
--The Natural (somewhat corny but at all times awesome)
--Hoosiers (indisputably great)
--Brian's Song (the original)
--Hoop Dreams (documentary, awesome)
All the above are awesome, these next ones are good:
--Miracle
--Remember the Titans
--Pride of the Yankees
October 13th, 2016 at 3:59 PM ^
Field of Dreams and Hoosiers.
I told my friends my test on whether or not to marry a girl was whether or not they liked or cried at the end of Field of Dreams. If not, no sense in it. If so, lock it down.
October 13th, 2016 at 9:28 PM ^
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October 13th, 2016 at 4:00 PM ^
Yeah, I have to agree, wolverine1987. Not with the exact list, but certainly the cosmic existence of one.
Brian, I think you owe it to us to explain your reasoning to us in more detail if you haven't already. It's either that or an extra 5 min with Jamie Mac discussing Illinois-Rutgers
October 13th, 2016 at 4:00 PM ^
Yeah, I have to agree, wolverine1987. Not with the exact list, but certainly the cosmic existence of one.
Brian, I think you owe it to us to explain your reasoning to us in more detail if you haven't already. It's either that or an extra 5 min with Jamie Mac discussing Illinois-Rutgers
October 13th, 2016 at 4:00 PM ^
Yeah, I have to agree, wolverine1987. Not with the exact list, but certainly the cosmic existence of one.
Brian, I think you owe it to us to explain your reasoning to us in more detail if you haven't already. It's either that or an extra 5 min with Jamie Mac discussing Illinois-Rutgers
October 13th, 2016 at 6:52 PM ^
I don't mean Rollerball although the original was OK but Blood of Heroes aka Salute to the Jugger with Rutger Hauer, 1989. In a post apocalyptic future there is the game of jugger - a combo of football and rugby. The object is to advance the skull of dog across a field and spike it on a stick in the ground.
Look for it if you can find it - structured like a real sports film it of course leads to the climatic showdown game in the league of the Nine Cities.
October 13th, 2016 at 3:24 PM ^
But one thing is for sure, Purdue already has a better record than ND. Man, that was fun to write!
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October 13th, 2016 at 3:40 PM ^
was interviewing for the Texas job. Wonder if Purdue would be a good place; they have a history with mustaches
October 13th, 2016 at 3:26 PM ^
Brian,
Would it change your opinion if we all just acknowledge that 8 Mile was a remake of Purple Rain?
October 13th, 2016 at 3:32 PM ^
Hope this is a good update...
VIP Note on #Michigan and four-star offensive line target TJ Slaton h/t @Andrew_Ivins: http://michigan.247sports.com/Board/59424/Contents/VIP-Note-Michigan-and-TJ-Slaton-48218548 …
October 13th, 2016 at 3:35 PM ^
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Reminds me of something Homer said in The Simpsons when he started smoking weed. He went to Flanders' house and asked him "Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that he himself would not be able to eat it?"
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October 13th, 2016 at 4:33 PM ^
Wow as melon scratchers go, that's a honey doodle.
October 13th, 2016 at 6:26 PM ^
Since Brian brought up the Supreme being, does that mean we can pray for the troops now?
/s
October 13th, 2016 at 3:47 PM ^
w/Kevin Costner & Jennifer Garner, pretty good.
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October 13th, 2016 at 3:52 PM ^
I recently watched My All American (2015) starring Aaron Eckhart, which I had never heard of previously.
It's all about University of Texas football and Freddie Steinmark in the late 60's. College football is fun.
Rating: Mark-skel and P-bert give it one thumb up + one respect knuckles.
October 13th, 2016 at 3:51 PM ^
I can't believe no one has mentioned The Longest Yard with Burt Reynolds. I hate that they did a re-make with Adam Sandler cause when I'm scrolling through the channels and see The Longest Yard, I always hope it's the Burt Reynolds version but it always ends up being the Adam Sandler re-make.
October 13th, 2016 at 3:53 PM ^
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October 13th, 2016 at 3:56 PM ^
Brian made some solid points about coach-poaching. To add to that, even if Drevno or Fisch were to take another job, I wouldn;t be too concerned. If both were to leave at the same time, then I would be worried. Like Brain said, I don't think Brown is going anywhere.
October 13th, 2016 at 4:15 PM ^
is also the oline coach. While the oline's performance has been decent, Drevno came in with a pretty good reputation. I'd like to see what he can with a line where most, if not all, of the oline players are his/Harbaugh recruits.
October 13th, 2016 at 4:07 PM ^
rocky
karate kid
both directed by John Avildsen
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miracle was "pretty ok too" but not quite in the same class
i used to like hoosiers but really the last 30 minutes are like the same thing over and over again.
actually "stick it" is pretty good too.
October 13th, 2016 at 4:08 PM ^
Hello (the other) Shelton Johnson from a fellow MFA grad!
October 13th, 2016 at 6:47 PM ^
Alumni are everywhere and into everything! Great to hear from the ORIGINAL Shelton Johnson!
October 13th, 2016 at 4:10 PM ^
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October 13th, 2016 at 4:11 PM ^
I'll take the banana eyes too. Happy Gilmore is a great movie, right up there with Tommy Boy in the pantheon of great movies. As for other great sports movies, I like the original Bad News Bears. Kelly Leak "es un bandito!"
The "other" Shelton Johnson failed to mention he was in Super Troopers.
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For God's sake, unless you're one of those 'i kneel during the National Anthem' types.
October 13th, 2016 at 4:53 PM ^
So a bit of a correction...Don Brown was head coach at UMass. He didn't do well. It re-affirms your point that he'll want to stay as DC but just to clarify.
October 13th, 2016 at 8:30 PM ^
He actually did really well at UMass. He led them to their best five year record in program history, including two conference championships. He apparently left of his own accord to take the DC job at Maryland.
October 13th, 2016 at 11:59 PM ^
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