The last time Wisconsin played at Crisler with fans Wahl was just a wee lad. [Marc-Grégor Campredon]

Hoops Preview: Wisconsin 2022-23, Part Two Comment Count

Seth February 24th, 2023 at 1:55 PM

THE ESSENTIALS

WHAT #44 Michigan (16-12)
vs #64 Wisconsin (16-11)

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WHERE Crisler Center
Ann Arbor, MI
WHEN Sunday, 2PM
THE LINE Kenpom: M-5
Torvik: M-5
TELEVISION CBS (Stream link)

THE OVERVIEW

Michigan's on another February tear. They are now 5-2, the #1 team in the conference, and #11 team in the country to Torvik since they checked on the groundhog. Michigan is also coming off their biggest win of the season, a 13-grit sandpaper affair at the RAC. As is often the case, freshman progression has been the difference. Dug McDaniel has become a defensive pest instead of a liability, has found his range on jumpers, and has reduced his turnover rate to ~1/game instead of ~3. Tarris Reed is turning into a switchable four; if we had any way to get a Hoop Lens account back I would show the two-bigs lineup has been Michigan's best look all year. Your eyes will have to suffice.

As a result a team left for dead a month ago is now squarely on the bubble, needing two wins in their last three games to enter the Big Ten Tournament with a foot in the NCAA. Two of those games are at #27 Illinois, and at #25 Indiana, who beat Michigan by a point at Crisler on February 11th. Avenging their other February loss on Senior Night would be a much easier path than trying to two-up their performance in Piscataway.

Missing Terrance Williams II, Michigan played terribly in Madison, allowing a Badger team that rarely rebounds its misses an extra 15 possessions off the offensive glass. Jett Howard was responsible for a lot of those breakdowns, but 26 minutes of Will Tschetter did as much to doom them as the atrocious-even-by-Trohl-standards officiating. Michigan beat MSU with an increase in minutes for Tarris Reed, and got back a hobbled Williams last night, but was without Howard, who remains questionable for Sunday.

Wisconsin played just as badly, and are coming off another Trohl job where the visiting Hawkeyes shot 3/28(!!!) from three. The Badgers have just four other wins in 2023: two vs Penn State, one over a nosediving OSU, and a 63-60 homer over Minnesota that's the reason people who follow Gopher fans now know the Badgers since 2016 are 23-8 when they get Larry Scirotto in Big Ten games, and 69-51 when they don't.

Their tournament resume is built on OT victories at Marquette, Iowa, and Penn State, a win over USC, and a 43-42 "victory" versus Dayton. A 1-2 finish versus Michigan, Purdue, and Minnesota, and a first-round BTT exit could conceivably leave the Badgers on the bubble. If you can't summon it for this Michigan team, I ask you, as a basketball fan, what would you give for a Wisconsinless postseason?

THE US

My graphic [click to embiggen]:

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faq for these graphics

Dug's banana has been changed to a lunch pail; if his ORtg gets over 100 we'll drop the cyan, but there's a lot about his spray chart that might not be sustainable.

THE LINEUP CARD

My graphic [click for big]:

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Gilmore now has his brick.

[Hit THE JUMP for grossness]

THE THEM

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He's added weight since 2021, but Wahl's still guarding guards. [Campredon]

We've seen this team recently so I'll point you at the previous preview. Bullets and updates:

  • PF Tyler Wahl scored 6 points on 14 possessions against Michigan, and nevertheless the MVP of the game. Not only did he hold Jett Howard to 9 points on 14 FGAs, but Wahl pulled down five of those offensive rebounds. By mutual accord he leads Wisconsin in usage by a wide margin, since opponents are happy to have an 89 ORtg guy shoot it, Greg Gard doesn't want the heat on anyone else, and Wahl's defense is a big part of what makes opponent forwards just as inefficient. Michigan also held him to zero assists after Wahl produced 8 and 5 versus their two previous opponents, and 6 against their next one. His assist rate is now 21% in conference play. It will be interesting to see what they do with Wahl defensively with Jett out; he may take Baker, or they could try some fancy doubling on Dickinson.
  • 7-foot C Steven Crowl was held to only only 5/15 from the floor, but had another three ORebs, six assists, and hit his only three pointer to get to 11 points. He's been Wisconsin's most efficient player on offense and excellent on the defensive glass.
  • PG Chucky Hepburn's heater has cooled to just 6/26 in his last four games, but his work all year still has him over 43%. He's also down to 34% inside the arc. Hepburn's length was the reason Dug was unable to get any of his own triples up.
  • Icky SF Connor Essegian is a Just-a-Shooter on the road and a Not-Just-a-Shooter at the Trohl Center, where his FTA/FGA almost doubles—he's at 23% on the road and 41% (!!!) at home in Big Ten play. He was the Kenpom MVP of the Michigan game, with 9 of his 23 points coming from his ten free throws.
  • SG Max Klesmit, the Wofford transfer, is another JAS but thanks to his year in the SoCon he doesn't know it. He was 1/8 from two and 2/3 from three against Michigan; QED.

Bench:

  • Jordan "Not his brother Johnny" Davis is now #1 in the country in turnover rate at 4.4, with an even lower assist rate. His one relative superpower is getting to the rim off screens, which was a problem once in 15 minutes last game.
  • Winger Carter Gilmore you remember as the guy who missed the basket so badly the scorer didn't count it as a shot.
  • PG Kamari McGee played a total 18 minutes in the five games before Michigan, then 14 minutes in our game; the three runs to the rim versus Dug account for half of his two's this season. They rolled him out for 23 minutes the next game vs Rutgers and he hit 3/6 from three, then he went back in reserve for Iowa.

THE TEMPO FREE

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The Michigan explosion raised them from 349th to 345 in ORebs. They're also Essegian in Road Games when it comes to drawing free throws. They are 352nd/363 teams in tempo. I mean…you saw it, right? They'll run off a screen, then another screen, maybe a moving screen, and then if you broke down they get an assisted bucket, and if you don't they give it to Wahl and he throws up a contested something. At that point if you don't have Will Tschetter under the basket they'll run back to their side and set up a sound, lengthy defense. They're excellent at denying post entries and will double from weird spots, and are long enough to get away with that without giving up more than an average number of threes.

The best way to beat this is to get the ball crossing the court. They give up a lot of assisted baskets, and generate a lot of non-steal turnovers by PBU'ing your skip passes.

THE KEYS

FOR THE LOVE OF PETE BEAT A SCREEN. Once Jett figured out where the screens were coming from Wisconsin defaulted to Wahl chucking it up against triple teams.

FOR THE LOVE OF GEORGE BOX OUT. I agree with Sam Webb that the coaches had a bit of a chat with the team after that one since they've been doing a much better job of late.

THE OBVIOUS ONE, AGAIN. Michigan did everything they could to prevent Essegian and Hepburn from launching threes. The result was ten and a half minutes of no scoring.

Find where Will Tschetter has the grandmas hidden. The person who runs MBB's official Twitter account watched the Wisconsin game, watched the MSU game, and watched the first half of the Rutgers game, has apparently watched basketball in their lifetime, and therefore came to obvious conclusion of who would start the 2nd half.

Then Tschetter started the second half, which went how it's been going. Hopefully Williams is full-go but either way #FreeTarris.

THE SECTION WHERE I PREDICT THE SAME THING KENPOM DOES

Michigan by 5.

Comments

TrueBlue2003

February 24th, 2023 at 6:38 PM ^

If we win 2/3 to end the season, we'll be sitting in a very good spot, maybe not even needing a win in the BTT, but couldn't hurt to win one.

It would be even better if the two wins came in the road games (assuming we do win 2/3 of course) cuz they're both q1 games, but obviously don't want to lose Sunday. Odds of winning both of those road games is very low.

WestQuad

February 24th, 2023 at 2:52 PM ^

Dug McDaniel is listed as 5'11".   In his hello post it said he was 5'7" or 5'8" in stocking feet.  I get that basketball heights are usually exagerated an inch or two, but 3-4" seems excessive.  So here's my legit question, did Dug grow an inch or two since highschool or is the 5'11" measurement really really generous?

(FWIW I'm hoping he got to 5'9"+ since highschool.)

ESNY

February 24th, 2023 at 3:04 PM ^

Begging the officials to call the blatant hip checks Wisconsin throws on every damn screen. They are not even slick about it so should be an easy call

ST3

February 24th, 2023 at 3:06 PM ^

People ask why isn’t Tarris getting more minutes. Is it something they’re seeing in practice? That led me to envision a UofM practice. Who are they scrimmaging against? Perhaps HD and Tarris are dominating Jace and Tschetter in practice, but is that something you can project to occur against actual Big 10 bigs? Tarris also seems to be stuck at 13 MPG in conference after averaging 12 MPG in non-conference. Is he just not picking up enough of the offense to be effective playing more than 13 minutes? This really hurts my head, like wondering why Michigan QBs don’t keep more on read options.

goblu330

February 24th, 2023 at 4:23 PM ^

At this point in the season I doubt they are scrimmaging very much.  These guys are all banged up at this point.

It could be conditioning.  It also could be that he presents no 3 point shooting threat and it bunches things up inside.  But at this point just run a high low with Hunter high.

TrueBlue2003

February 25th, 2023 at 1:40 AM ^

I think last game it was about the rotations/conditioning.  He comes in at about the 12-10 min mark of each half to spell Hunter at center.  So it's hard to put him in before that because then he's logging decently long minutes.

They're probably also a little worried about foul trouble.  Reed got four fouls in four minutes a few games ago.  They're probably worried he'll take himself out of a game too early if that happens again.  They want to make sure he's available for the last 8-10 min.

But I think we'll see a different rotation Sunday or soon.  Remember, Williams had been starting at the four, then went out for a couple games, then returned last game so there have been a lot of moving pieces.  Plus Jett has been in and out of the lineup too.

My guess is that Williams has earned back his starting role at the four and we'll continue to only see Reed for about 5 minutes in the first half at center with Tschetter playing some four.

And then depending on how things are going I doubt we'll see Tschetter in the second half.  Reed will play significant minutes backing up both the four and five (and Williams may slide back down to the three again if we want to go defensive).

Blue Vet

February 24th, 2023 at 3:20 PM ^

"the Badgers since 2016 are 23-8 when they get Larry Scirotto in Big Ten games, and 69-51 when they don't"

Is this really actually accurate?! 

I don't know maths so well but the discrepancy suggests someone should let the Big Ten know.

AC1997

February 24th, 2023 at 3:38 PM ^

Tarris Reed is the elite switchable defender that Seth thinks Moussa Diabate was.  (Just teasing you Seth.)  I for one am amazed at how well Reed plays defense given his youth and size.  For context, the guy we thought would be an elite defending big who is "in" the NBA right now had 28 blocks last year in 796 minutes.  Tarris has only played 333 minutes so far and has 26 blocks.  Maybe you like steals better for defenders - well, that is 16 to 11 in Tarris favor.  I don't mean to knock Moussa (who was a significantly better offensive player than Tarris is) but I do mean to tease the MGoStaff for their year-long takes about Diabate being a good defender when he wasn't.  

As for the rotation at PF, I'm a big fan of Tschetter but even I concede he isn't ready for more than a cameo off the bench for a few minutes in the right match-up.  I'm not ready to play Reed 25 minutes because I think his offense is a problem right now, but I love using him in the closing lineup for his rebounding and defense.  

jdraman

February 24th, 2023 at 5:25 PM ^

but I do mean to tease the MGoStaff for their year-long takes about Diabate being a good defender when he wasn't. 
 

I’m glad you put this out here. Dylan over at Umhoops was pointing out last year, during the season, how Diabate wasn’t all that he was chalked up to be as a defender. How Diabate has dodged the immense criticism his fellow one-and-done receives confuses me. Both were 5-stars, both McDonald’s all Americans, both underperformed their rankings, both were not “elite” at the one skill we thought they would be, and both left a year too early for the draft (though I don’t blame them for that). Yet only Houstan gets dogpiled by the MGoCrowd while Diabate can sometimes be praised like you mentioned! 

jdraman

February 24th, 2023 at 7:58 PM ^

Houstan has been called “the biggest Michigan recruiting bust” up and down this message board. And plenty of people on previous roundtables have called him a bad shooter (despite him being a statistically fine shooter) while gushing about Bufkin’s shooting ability (all while he had been a sub-30% shooter). 

jmblue

February 24th, 2023 at 4:25 PM ^

A 1-2 finish versus Michigan, Purdue, and Minnesota, and a first-round BTT exit could conceivably leave the Badgers on the bubble.

Wisconsin's on the bubble right now.  If they go 1-3 the rest of the way they'll be out.

Jordan2323

February 24th, 2023 at 4:44 PM ^

Put Bufkin on Essegian and lock him up. That kid was the difference in the game the first time. Jett, if he plays, and Dug can stick with Klesmit and Hepburn good enough. Essegian is the one who helped them beat Iowa last game as well. I think both Reed and Williams can shut down Wahl. When Baker is in, he needs to guard Klesmit or a bench player as well. They try to win with Wahl and Essegian primarily. Hunter can lock down their center one on one. You make these guys take and make contested threes. 

907_UM Nanook

February 24th, 2023 at 9:52 PM ^

Essegian put Michigan in a blender on the PNR - partly because Hunter is tied to a stump slow on the perimeter, and the other reason was our help was non-existant. Having Reed out there would negate this in that he'd either cut off the drive as primary defender on the switch, or come over & wipe it out on helpside.

slblue

February 24th, 2023 at 5:29 PM ^

Call me crazy, but I think there is a good chance that M blows out WI on Sunday.  Confidence should be at a season high and the defensive effort last night was terrific. The game for Dug, in particular, has really seemed to slow down for him.  Go Blue!

Jordan2323

February 24th, 2023 at 5:41 PM ^

Wisconsin plays at a miserably slow pace so it’s hard to blow them out. They lost on the road to Indiana and Maryland by 18 but other than those two all of their games were 10 or less. They don’t blow anyone out either. Their ppg for and against are separated by 1.8 points total so they are always in games down to the wire.