So are we going to get that recruiting bump in MBB?
This has been talked about here and there in other threads, but thought I would make one dedicated post to this topic.
We all remember what happened last time we made it to the NCAA tournament finals. From the increased exposure and success, we thought we'd start getting higher profile recruits. Bubcus! Excuses were abound, including:
1. JB's archaic approach to recruiting
2. Recruiting is a dirty game of which we do not play
3. It takes time to garner the right relationships with the right recruits, so don't expect a recruiting bump right away.
So, are things different now? We've had a very successful 6 years and have sent many kids to the NBA. Are kids going to notice now? Will the FBI investigation help the clean recruiters like JB?
What say you MGoBoard?
Mayhaps.
Aprilhaps
or...
that's all I got... I gots no more
Mmmmm...beeeer.
I am losing it - really need to end this day and just go home...
I think we got the bump last year and the bump comes from having better recruiters. I think Saddi Washington is going to tear it up on the recruting trail going forward. The on the court stuff will help but I think having great recruiters will be the ultimate reason we get a bump.
That seems to be why we couldn't capitalize on 2013 national championship run. Washington has already proved his worth as a solid recruiter by getting Livers and Johns. He'll be a real asset in building relationships with in-state recruits.
His coaching ability shouldn't be undersold either. The big men seem to be making strides this year in Teske and Livers.
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I think it's possible to have 0 openings in the 2019 class. If Wagner stays there is definitely one opening, if he leaves now then we bring in all 5 freshman and no one has to transfer this year. Matthews should have 2 years of eligibilty remaining so if he were to stay again that would mean 0 openings in 2019. Which also means the team should be good to great for the next 2 years with minimal disruption. It requires transfers or leaving early for the NBA just to have 1 opening in 2019. I know there is always attrition but I didn't realize how tight scholarships were the next 2 years until just now.
Just like in FB, don't stress about scholarships. Coached know who is gonna stay and who is gonna leave a lot better than we do. It's always fun to guess about how many openings there will be in a given year, but it always seems to magically work out.
"Now that John Beilein has taken his team to the national championship game twice and sent a steady stream of players to the NBA, will he ever start to recruit the kind of players that could take us to the national championship game and then make the NBA?"
"Look, I came here for an argument!"
"No, you came here for an argument."
Now THAT was a wicked burn, Snarl!!!
You just know that what some ppl want (OP cough cough) is to get 1 & doners, despite the inherent dangers of fishing in those waters, despite the success Coach B (and frickin Jay Wright) have had without them, AND despite the very real possibility that will cease even being a thing!
The incoming class appears to be full of classic Beilein gems, maybe the best class he's had, if not, then right next to the Mitch-Nik-GR3 group.
I feel good about the future in hoops!
For real, some people are just fucking miserable humans who can't enjoy anything. I pity them (and wish they would stfu).
This may be the post of the year.
Especially since sexy bits have been banned.
Yea but what about actually being able to win the championship game? That evidently takes more 4/5* talent
Shitty officiating plays a role.
As does running into the best bench player performance of all time (that is equivalent to the best any player performance since 89) while having your 2nd worst 3 pt shooting performance in 5 years.
Small sample sizes suffer from noise/luck.
As does running into the best bench player performance of all time (that is equivalent to the best any player performance since 89) while having your 2nd worst 3 pt shooting performance in 5 years.
Small sample sizes suffer from noise/luck.
Yea but we were still losing at that point^ in the game. Maybe we would have won if that wasn't called, maybe not. The title game this year just showed me that we maximized our potential with the roster we had but got outplayed by better talent
That was not exactly the only bad call that night.
Some factors won't change, like the shady and negative recruiting tactics other schools use. Also, Beilein just isn't the most persuasive, salesman like some of these HC's are. His assistants and recruiting office people will need to pick up the slack there. We certainly have lots of great things to sell, so that's not a problem.
I'm not sure to what degree Beilein has changed his approach to recruiting. I think not offering kids early enough or waiting only until they've visited campus definitely sets us behind the eight ball in some cases.
The last few classes have been much better fortunately, and hopefully this is a sign of very good things in future recruiting.
That was triggered by the Tyus Battle debacle, which cost hm Josh Langford. It's a significant change and I wouldn't be surprised to see it come into play in every recruiting cycle.
He may have made another change or two. He's certainly been adaptable as a coach. One thing that hasn't changed is that none of the Michigan writers have a good source for recruiting info among his staff.
He's not changing his procedure for how he extends offers. Good for him. He gets to know his recruits well and they get to know the team too. The team's chemistry and lack of off the court issues doesn't happen by accident.
He used to recruit a PG every other class and ended up dangerously thin at the position a couple of seasons. Now he's targeting PGs in every class.
Who. Fucking. Cares. Beilein just got his best class ever, and has already proven he can do great things with far lesser talent than most. This question is virtually irrelevant
When FauxMo is frustrated enough to bring the real talk.
While it's great to make title games and win the conference over an overrated in-state coach with supposedly more talent, at some point, you wonder how much higher the ceiling could be with even one 5 star player. The 2013 team had some real star power, it's not wrong to want a guy who is capable of being one and done, even if he stays for 2 years. It's also not wrong to wish for a freshman who could be all-conference.
I just want a guy that can shoot like Dante DiVinnysomethingorother.
Thx.
I'm pretty sure Matthews was a 5* recruit but I could be wrong.
Matthews was #61, not close to 5* territory, barely ahead of Simpson. He might have been a 5* to one of the services.
Both the Counterstrike guy and the Uber driver have confirmed.
this fall.