META: Request for analysis of the officiating
Last year after the Michigan State game there was a significant front page post with analysis of the bad calls in the game. Could some poor MGoBlog employee be tasked with creating a similar post for The Game? I thought I remembered some mention that might become a regular feature, but haven't seen it since. I've also heard reference to many bad calls that I didn't pick up on watching the game live, and would like to see an overall analysis of how bad things really were. I figure we're all hurting and angry anyway, may as well get it all out there on the table.
Special thanks to MGoBlog for giving us all a place to vent while trying to cope with whatever that was.
November 28th, 2016 at 2:45 PM ^
I think it's best if we just move on.
November 28th, 2016 at 2:47 PM ^
November 28th, 2016 at 2:49 PM ^
No one is going to look at a post on MGoBlog as "impartial."
November 28th, 2016 at 3:14 PM ^
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November 28th, 2016 at 3:41 PM ^
I would like to see it happen next year when the crew chief is Lloyd Carr and the rest of the officials are Michigan grads. Then we can all agree enough is enough the year after.
November 28th, 2016 at 3:46 PM ^
The Big Ten office doesn't care. They won't want to admit they made a mistake with the officiating crew and will fall on the "it's in the past; move on" excuse. They also won't care because one of their constituents (OSU) benefited and is now squarely in the CFP--they don't want to cheapen that and risk not getting two teams in.
However, I will care. That and several thousand other people like me should be enough reason to do the post.
November 28th, 2016 at 2:48 PM ^
.....to the CFP.
November 28th, 2016 at 3:47 PM ^
I'm not talking about the OT spot, but did anyone else notice throughout the game that they seemed to be giving OSU 6inches or more on spots while shorting us? If someone has the time and the espn app you can rewatch the game. It would be great to gather some screen shots of where the ball was when the runner was down and where the ball was spotted throughout the entire game
This is a game of inches. This would be the easiest way to affect the outcome of a game without being noticed..unless someone were to go back and look for that. If there was a pattern to this, a legit argument can be made. Focusing on bang bang plays will get you no where.
November 28th, 2016 at 3:57 PM ^
or the fact they didnt even bother to measure "the spot"
November 28th, 2016 at 4:07 PM ^
There is no need to measure "the spot". By rule, OT starts from the 25 yard line, so the 15 yard line is the line to gain. That play all hinged on the call on the field. There is no arguing after that because there wasn't an angle down the 15 yd line to overturn the call. If it would have been called short on the field, same thing not enough to overturn that call. Now do I think they gave a generous spot initially? of course, but you guys are wasting time and diluting the argument by focusing on that.
November 28th, 2016 at 2:52 PM ^
Would agree with you on the basis of my own happiness/desire to not keep reliving this game, but that's how this stuff just keeps being allowed to happen. There are too many instances of egregiously bad officiating in college football that directly affect game outcomes but are chalked up to "well that's just how it goes, we need to accept it and move on".
In reality, that doesn't need to be "just how it goes", or other variations of that sentiment. This is an enormous industry with an enormous, passionate following. There's no reason not to hold the officials to a considerably higher standard.
November 28th, 2016 at 3:14 PM ^
don't think Harbaugh said what he said and then just let it go. That was a team full of seniors who have done everything the right way, stayed in school, represented the school and the conference well. Jordan Lewis deserved better than that. Delano Hill deserved better than that. Channing Stribbling deserved better than that. Jake Butt deserved better than that. There is no question in my mind that Harbaugh is raising holy hell about it with the conference. He doesn't strike me as the kind to just let things die.
As for us, as a fan base, there is nothing that can come of a more exhaustive review of the officiating. As soon as we can move on to wanting to beat Florida State or Lousville the better we are going to feel.
November 28th, 2016 at 3:24 PM ^
Absolutely. There is NO WAY he spent his time in the post game presser the way that he did and then will just "let it go". Something is going to change from this, even if it's just reinstating the "you don't officiate games played by teams from the state you live in or used to live in" rule.
November 28th, 2016 at 3:22 PM ^
Said no one at the Alamo ever...
November 28th, 2016 at 3:33 PM ^
The fact that there were multiple referees from Ohio (one a self-described Buckeye fan) working the game is not something we should just "move on" from - that should never happen again.
November 28th, 2016 at 3:43 PM ^
Dave Witvoet was a UM fan and lived in Michigan and officiated many Michigan games. Regional crews are going to live in states that they have to officiate. Just the way it is.
November 28th, 2016 at 3:49 PM ^
Move on without me. I'm not ready, yet.
November 28th, 2016 at 2:50 PM ^
What I was really hoping to find was a website that tracked(sorted?) officiating and penalty stats. I feel like 2 penalties for 6 yards has to be the least amount called this season. I would love to find some real numbers on that though. The way games are called in 2016 that outcome just seems impossible. Would like to see just how impossible it actually is.
November 28th, 2016 at 2:54 PM ^
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November 28th, 2016 at 3:17 PM ^
Ageed. I was actually hoping that the blog could get PFF to do an officiating recap. Didn't they provide the numbers after the MSU game last year?
November 28th, 2016 at 3:29 PM ^
Statsheet.com, which is now sadly defunct, used to keep the game logs and call tendencies of basketball refs and that was a huge resource for me during hoops season. Something like what they had would be an awesome thing to peruse for any game where the crew was known, if someone ever created such a site for football.
November 28th, 2016 at 4:08 PM ^
I wonder if there is real potential to monetize a site like that?
So was it Statsheet.com that provided the point per play figures after the MSU game last year? I could have sworn it was Pro Football Focus, but my memory gets hazy on such things.
November 28th, 2016 at 3:31 PM ^
November 28th, 2016 at 3:42 PM ^
I would like to know what percentage of teams are penalized six yards or less across an entire game. Also, how often there is such a large magnitude of difference between one team's penalty yards and the other's.
November 28th, 2016 at 2:50 PM ^
I'll give you a TL;DR version. It was bad. officiating was bad.
November 28th, 2016 at 2:51 PM ^
It was brutally one-sided and biased in favor of OSU thanks in no small part to the fact the B1G 10 selected a crew in which two officials had strong Ohio State ties and a third had been suspended in the past for incompetence.
Need anything else?
November 28th, 2016 at 2:52 PM ^
November 28th, 2016 at 2:51 PM ^
I think Sam Webb said there were at least 7-8 blatant missed calls.
November 28th, 2016 at 2:52 PM ^
November 28th, 2016 at 4:12 PM ^
Honestly, what's the difference? Do you think the RCMB or Eleven Warriors crowd is ever going to think favorably of Michigan?
November 28th, 2016 at 2:52 PM ^
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November 28th, 2016 at 3:07 PM ^
The Spot and Delano's PI were coin flips.
Samuel wouldn't have caught that ball unless he high pointed it and was Randy Moss. He wasn't in a position to high point it and he isn't Randy Moss, but Delano shouldn't have grabbed him if it was uncatchable.
I don't have a hot take on the Spot that y'all haven't heard.
Here's hoping for a 1/1,000,000 chance we squeek into the CFP, stomp Bama and then crush OSU on a neutral field without mercy.
November 28th, 2016 at 3:35 PM ^
That's the thing - the inconsistency in how they called the game. If you think holding is OK and never call it, fine. If you think PI is horrible and must be flagged every time, fine. But be consistent for both teams.
November 28th, 2016 at 2:57 PM ^
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November 28th, 2016 at 3:00 PM ^
November 28th, 2016 at 3:11 PM ^
To Seventeen Warriors.....
November 28th, 2016 at 3:11 PM ^
November 28th, 2016 at 3:14 PM ^
Urban Meyer's game worn underwear.....
November 28th, 2016 at 3:16 PM ^
November 28th, 2016 at 3:39 PM ^
It wasn't. I thought it was really interesting.
If you're concerned about how rival fanbases view us . . . just don't be. It's pointless - they'd hate us regardless.
November 28th, 2016 at 4:27 PM ^
It would be great, no doubt, if done impartially.
But unilaterally, while completely ignoring that calls went in 2 directions, is not interesting analysis. It was a coping mechanism.
November 28th, 2016 at 3:26 PM ^
November 28th, 2016 at 3:35 PM ^
Excuses are justifiable when they actually cause the fault being excused.
November 28th, 2016 at 3:39 PM ^
Also, that Higdon cut on the front page HURTS so much...
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November 28th, 2016 at 3:40 PM ^
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