Sam Webb: "I do not believe Les Miles is a prime candidate for this job."
Sam didn't offer any reasons for Michigan's lack of interest. He did say that donors had enouraged Hackett to look at Miles and that he still believes Miles would take the job if offered. Per Sam, though, Michigan will get a "yes" from another coach on its list before it gets to Miles (this did not seem to be a comment on Harbaugh in particular - it seemed more to be a comment on how low on the list Miles is).
You can click on the link below and go to the fourth segment of this morning's show to hear for yourself.
http://www.wtka.com/page.php?page_id=87
EDIT: A few of the posts in this thread are about Les Miles and not JH, which I think is a good sign. It shows we're not Harbaughing too much about Harbaugh to the point where we're crazy Harbaughs. That said, brother, can you spare some Harbaugh?
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:02 PM ^
how badly does Sam need to take a nap?
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:05 PM ^
...probably needs to be put into a medically-induced coma for about a week.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:19 PM ^
Is someone handing those out, because it doesn't sound like a bad deal.
December 22nd, 2014 at 2:39 PM ^
Sam we love ya but your pads are too low...poor technique
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:04 PM ^
Miles is on the list at some point. This is a micro positive searchbit.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:05 PM ^
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December 22nd, 2014 at 1:05 PM ^
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:06 PM ^
link?
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:08 PM ^
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December 22nd, 2014 at 2:26 PM ^
He's legit. He has a long track record of calling big things.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:07 PM ^
and I don't fault you for saying so...but I think that Brian is trying to get us to dispense with the notion of "done" until there's someone official standing in front of a podium making an announcement.
THEN its done.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:08 PM ^
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December 22nd, 2014 at 1:11 PM ^
Another point that was brought up (by Ace I believe) was the contract bit, that as of now he's still under contract with the 49ers which precludes him from being under contract with Michigan. MOU, maybe...but he can still back out of one of those.
FWIW, I'm just as excited about this as everyone, but trying to keep an even keel about it until the announcement is made.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:15 PM ^
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:18 PM ^
and with your experience, you'd know better than me. But speaking only for myself, I'm just trying to guard myself from the epic meltdown that would occur if we don't all get for Christmas what we really want.
December 22nd, 2014 at 2:24 PM ^
I have been thinking along the lines that a settlement has been reached, especially the last few days. Harbaugh's demeanor in his pressers changed last week, as if there was a lot less stress on him. I am hoping everyone decided to be professional, adhere to "the code" and that the transition from "mutual agreement with the 49ers" to Michigan's new head coach is seamless.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:17 PM ^
I'm certainly no legal expert, but could one hypothetically sign a contract with an effective date to give you time to clear up any outstanding obligations?
I don't mean to say I think that's the case here, I'm just curious about how it would/could work.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:23 PM ^
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:28 PM ^
A contract does not necessarily go into effect when pen touches paper. It goes into effect when it says it does. Someone could sign a contract on, say, December 23 that would go into effect at any later date specified in the contract.
Think about it. If you have a job and agree to take a new one, you can make a contract with your new employer that goes into effect on a future date, so you can give notice to your current employer.
You don't even need a full-fledged contract to create an employment relationship. Harbaugh and UM could agree on the essential terms -- salary and period of years are the only absolutely essential ones -- in a letter agreement and execute an agreement specifiying all terms later on. This is why so many coaches don't actually "sign" their agreement until after they've started working for their new team.
December 22nd, 2014 at 2:14 PM ^
I'm no lawyer and don't speak all fancy-like, but I've signed a lease while currently under a lease somewhere else. They were binding to both parties until their end date or after their begin date, and in one case since there was an overlap, I just agreed to terms and penalties to break the lease with the original party since I already had my backup plan in place. Can't imagine it can't work a similar way here.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:35 PM ^
EDIT: Didn't see the two posts just above me, as I was drafting my own post on this topic.
TL;DR Version; yes, you're right. Also ditto on NOT going to law school.
Detailed answer below:
I am an attorney, and I will say that, while Ace is correct in technical terms that he cannot be under two contracts at once to coach for two different teams, it is entirely possible for him to have signed a legally binding contract at this point. There are two scenarios in which this could happen, only one of which applies in our situation:
1) He just striahgt-up breaches the first contract and signs the second. While he'd have a bunch of legal difficulties with the first contract, it does not make the second NON binding necessarily. Depends on the terms of the first contract. Obviously he will not do this.
2) He could sign a contract package (not just a term sheet or memorandum of understanding) with Michigan, making the Michigan contract "Start Date" or some other time-delayed activation mechanism contingent upon the cessation of his contract with the San Francisco 49ers Organization. Basically, just make termination of his relationship with the 49ers a condition precedent for the Michigan contract, at which point the Michigan contract comes into full force and effect instantaneously.
If he were to sign a contract with a clause akin to scenario #2 above, it's entirely possible the "deal is done" and the only thing that would thwart the deal would be if the condition precedent (in our case, ending employment with the 49ers), never happens.
Signing such a deal would make it impossible for the NFL to slide in with any Godfather-type offers and for Harbaugh to accept such offers without being instantly in breach of an employment contract with Michigan.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:08 PM ^
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:10 PM ^
I also saw his other posts...dude is probably a bit crazy and should not be taken seriosuly.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:04 PM ^
ALL ABOARD THE HARBAUGH EXPRESS
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:15 PM ^
I think you mean a Moo point.
/s just in case someone doesnt get it...
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:31 PM ^
It doesn't matter
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:42 PM ^
the udder response better.
December 22nd, 2014 at 2:41 PM ^
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:04 PM ^
That Twitter Account that Brian has been somewhat promoting tweeted interesting stuff not to long ago.
He is saying that JH and his agent are meeting today at 1pm(not sure if its eastern or pacific timing) and that this meeting wasnt supposed to happen until after Xmas, so if your on twitter stay tuned because this account loves to tweet out all his information as it comes in
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:12 PM ^
That guy is not a reliable source. Harbaugh is not using David Dunn for UM negotiations. Even if this HS kid does know Dunn somehow, there is no reason to trust anything Dunn says.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:24 PM ^
I think you might be confusing this guy with UofMDiehard.
Brian refereneced thosewhostay a few times saying he thinks hes legit.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:15 PM ^
December 22nd, 2014 at 2:21 PM ^
Yes...didn't he mentioned it a few days ago? I think it was Friday or Saturday the thread about ThoseWhoStay, we were talking about if this meeting was going to happen or not.
Sounds like he was right....several people with sources said there was a meeting and brought back info from it.
There was an agent present at the meeting but sources refused to name or didn't know the name of agent.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:04 PM ^
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December 22nd, 2014 at 1:06 PM ^
This boggles my mind. Les is a hell of a coach and should be top 3 on any school who is looking for a coach. Obviously this wont be a big deal IF Michigan lands Harbaugh or Stoops, but if that doesnt happen, then I think it'd be a huge mistake.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:15 PM ^
Miles may be a "hell of a coach" but he fails miserably at one of the primary critieria anyone hired by Schlissel to execute a coaching search would be expected to have.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:08 PM ^
Adam Schefter is now reporting on SC that lack of NFL jobs may push JH to Michigan. The narrative is changing and the spin is on.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:14 PM ^
This is one of the things to which I'm most looking forward, if Harbaugh to UM happens: reading all of the distorted spin that NFL writers put on the fact that they totally missed the boat on this.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:38 PM ^
...my sources have now confirmed to me that he had to do so because NO NFL teams even wanted him. He was widely seen as the absolute worst coach in the league, maybe the worst ever in the NFL. One coach even said to me 'Whats his deal?'. Harbaugh will surely come right back to the NFL as soon as anyone asks"
December 22nd, 2014 at 2:22 PM ^
I think it's going to turn out that the NFL reporters were very close to Harbaugh's agent, who saw the Michigan offer as a starting point and had a lot of incentive to create a bidding war amongst NFL owners with deep pockets. Meanwhile, there have been people close to Harbaugh (ex-teammates, family, local media like Sam, JUB, Brian etc) who were saying something else but never got heard by the elites in the NFL reporting biz. Local reporting, especially, got treated like a bunch of bumpkins and hayseeds.
As an alum, and someone who should be connected to Michigan better, it's disappointing that Schefter has arrived so late to the party. I've come to have a really low opinion of the media on the basis that much of what they report on that I happen to know a little about turns out to be distorted and wrong. Still, you'd think he'd have a better sense of this stuff.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:14 PM ^
NFL reporters are truly arrogant asses. Last week Harbaugh was the most sought after commoditiy in the world and UM had no chance. Now they say he might come here since it's that or unemployment.
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:26 PM ^
It's a great 21st-century illustration of Aesop's fable of the fox and the grapes.
December 22nd, 2014 at 2:37 PM ^
Isn't that the one where the fox landed on the horn of a bull that was in a vineyard but stopped to see his reflection in the river?
December 22nd, 2014 at 1:42 PM ^
I think it also shows that NFL reporters get a lot of their info from NFL agents, who are also arrogant asses.